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Old 04-15-2014, 02:26 PM   #1
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Jalopnik like the Z/28

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Reading comments on social media threads makes me understand how the entire Mustang/Camaro wars started. There are many, many woefully illiterate or blindly ignorant Mustang fanboys making insanely stupid comments.

I appreciate all cars, I respect Ford, MOPAR, the Euros.... I probably should learn more tolerance and respect to the ricers but by and large I don't talk shit when I know not what I'm talking about. It only makes you look like an ignorant ass and most enthusiasts will talk about you in unfavorable terms.

Really, your fellow Mustang guys, (not you), need to get real.
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Reading comments on social media threads makes me understand how the entire Mustang/Camaro wars started. There are many, many woefully illiterate or blindly ignorant Mustang fanboys making insanely stupid comments.

I appreciate all cars, I respect Ford, MOPAR, the Euros.... I probably should learn more tolerance and respect to the ricers but by and large I don't talk shit when I know not what I'm talking about. It only makes you look like an ignorant ass and most enthusiasts will talk about you in unfavorable terms.

Really, your fellow Mustang guys, (not you), need to get real.
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Sigh...I'm getting really tired of car journalists saying the same thing about "it's too heavy" and "you can't see out of it". They just seem to be taking the lazy way out. How does it feel too heavy? Every 5th gen V8 Camaro weighs roughly the same, +/- a few percent, but they talk about how you can make the Z/28 dance and how well the ZL1 and 1LE handle, but then they are all too heavy. I think if you told them the Z/28 was 400 pounds lighter, handed them the keys and have them drive it, they'd all come back saying how great it handles and how they can feel how much lighter it is.
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Sigh...I'm getting really tired of car journalists saying the same thing about "it's too heavy" and "you can't see out of it". They just seem to be taking the lazy way out. How does it feel too heavy? Every 5th gen V8 Camaro weighs roughly the same, +/- a few percent, but they talk about how you can make the Z/28 dance and how well the ZL1 and 1LE handle, but then they are all too heavy. I think if you told them the Z/28 was 400 pounds lighter, handed them the keys and have them drive it, they'd all come back saying how great it handles and how they can feel how much lighter it is.
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Here is a cross section of the stupid...


Michael Wall Is that track data, or more of Chevy's simulations that worked out so well for the ZL1?
about an hour ago · Like · 5



Adrian Dzidek So it only took 3 tries, ss,zl1 and now z28... a massive price increase and the reuse of a Z06 motor. As always, well done GM.

Gooch The new Cobra will mop the floor with this car like usual. GM always thinks they've 1 upped Ford then they get their asses handed to them. Happens every time. about an hour ago · Like · 10


Kevin Wheeler Getting in on the "pay us more for less" game. Also, its 4k lbs with a driver, a bit much in my eyes. It is just a Camaro, lets not eclipse the $45k mark
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Jerry Camilleri We shall see as the new Mustang is coming out soon with an IRS and lighter body ....I'm sure it will be much cheaper and faster for the buck !!!
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Jon Stachler Over twice the price of a GT Mustang just to keep up with it? Yawn
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Mike Tarlton We'll know more about Mustang's move on 4/17.
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David Juron 505hp and it kicks a Mustangs ass? Last I looked, the GT500 puts out about 661hp. And cheaper than 75k. Just saying.
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Eddie Adorno We have to see how the GT350 will be
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Michael Pearson I'd take a GT500 with a radio, 662hp, great suspension, 55k sticker, air conditioning and a solid warranty over this trailer park Bentley.
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Lee Henderson The S550 "Boss replacement" with the 8000rpm Voodoo 5.0 that makes over 500hp and weighs 500lbs less will shit allover this troglodyte...
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Patrick Chan So you made a car that is better than your competitors outgoing model that was priced half of what you are charging. Good for you...

You can't compare this car to any factory Mustang built in the last 10 years. The closest thing you are probably gonna get was the last Cobra R in 2000. All other Mustangs have been GT cars indented for daily driving with maybe a few exception like the recent Boss 302, but even it had AC, infotainment, and cost half as much...
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Marc Cerundolo In acceleration the camaro has no chance again the mustang , both cars factory Oem.
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Marc Cerundolo CAMAROS ARE WEAK !!!
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Jared Flynn Mustang fan here....I like the z28 overall it will be a nice track car but I bet less than 200 of the 1,000 they build will ever see a road course. They will end up as garage queens or in collectors hands. The 15 GT is faster already than the outgoing Boss 302 so the new SVT will be nothing short of insanity. And will still cost less than the z28
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Travis Chriscoe This will be the coolest Camaro to own when they stop making them...AGAIN!!!
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She's coming, just wait...
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Kc Brounkowski If you want to talk about in the, "stripped down, no ac, racecar" category then yeah I guess, seeing as that Ford doesn't really have one. However put it on the strip with a Cobra Jet and hilarity will ensue.
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Andy Knox 2014 GT500 starts at $55k and puts out 662 hp and 631 lb-ft of torque
2014 Z/28 starts at $75k and puts out 505 hp and 481 lb-ft of torque
So an extra $20k gets you 150 less hp and torque, I hope they throw in the mullet for free.
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Sigh...I'm getting really tired of car journalists saying the same thing about "it's too heavy" and "you can't see out of it". They just seem to be taking the lazy way out. How does it feel too heavy?
I can only say this: during my High School years, some of the bigger girls were the best dancers...
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I can only say this: during my High School years, some of the bigger girls were the best dancers...
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Regarding post #8, Ignorance is...both sad and funny!
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Frank, some of them are even old enough to have a LICENSE...
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I can only say this: during my High School years, some of the bigger girls were the best dancers...
Best dancer on the floor , but the are several different floors
Can you be more specific
It's like the best on the track , ,,,,,,., but at what track , like floors there are a few tracks , not to count Road course , etc
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Old 04-15-2014, 09:19 PM   #15
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Best dancer on the floor , but the are several different floors
Can you be more specific...
According to Jalopnik:

"If you don't boss the Z/28 around, it won't dance for you. It'll think you're a bitch and won't show you its magic."

At least they didn't try to put Baby in a corner...
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Personally, I think this is the most interesting and well written review of the Z28 that I have read. Good job Jalopnik.
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the internet is full of stupid (and 12 year olds who cant drive anyway but have their favorite forza/gran turismo cars)

Its always "wait until" Im sure Ford will have something for this Z/28. In fact I think GM is banking on it. Because they have a new platform that they will be able to fire right back at them. And lets not forget Fiat/SRT/Mopar/Dodge may pull something out of the hat too (i mean they started the factory drag wars again)
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Reading comments on social media threads makes me understand how the entire Mustang/Camaro wars started. There are many, many woefully illiterate or blindly ignorant Mustang fanboys making insanely stupid comments.

I appreciate all cars, I respect Ford, MOPAR, the Euros.... I probably should learn more tolerance and respect to the ricers but by and large I don't talk shit when I know not what I'm talking about. It only makes you look like an ignorant ass and most enthusiasts will talk about you in unfavorable terms.

Really, your fellow Mustang guys, (not you), need to get real.
I agree mustang fanboys need to get real. I like mustang, charger, Camaro, and anything else American or Euro, but a mustang will not beat a Camaro around the track, and it's not opinionated it's factually. I always study lap times and watch car reviews. They all praise the Camaro over mustang. Yeah a stock mustang will BARELY beat a stock Camaro in a straight line, but my opinion is that's not all that matters.

I got into a discussion with a guy at work who drives a stock s2000 and he said that his car would stomp a Camaro around the track. Even though I showed him lap times and car reviews saying the car is underpowered or slow he still insisted that the s2k is faster. It's ignorance like that makes a fanboy. Face it there's always going to be a better car. Instead of being ignorant just face the facts and build a car that will beat a car you see as your cars rival. There was definitely a lot of ignorent fanboys in the comments.
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Reading comments on social media threads makes me understand how the entire Mustang/Camaro wars started. There are many, many woefully illiterate or blindly ignorant Mustang fanboys making insanely stupid comments.

I appreciate all cars, I respect Ford, MOPAR, the Euros.... I probably should learn more tolerance and respect to the ricers but by and large I don't talk shit when I know not what I'm talking about. It only makes you look like an ignorant ass and most enthusiasts will talk about you in unfavorable terms.

Really, your fellow Mustang guys, (not you), need to get real.
I wouldn't let it bug you. There are as many Fanboy's on the Camaro side who incorrectly slag Mustangs. The thing is, I bet most of those who trash the "other" car have driven neither.

I think the Z/28 is fantastic. Sure, it too heavy, but so is the Mustang in my opinion. Heck, all modern cars are too heavy. I wouldn't spend the $75K on one, simply because I don't have that kind of money to spare. But is it worth it? Sure is. And just as the Boss, which let's be honest was compromised somewhat from the engineers vision to please marketing and bean counters lead to the revitalized and mental Z/28. Now I hope this leads to a no-holds barred Mustang, not that I'll be able to afford that either.

Let's just be glad the enthusiast is still being served. Like the GM Camaro Z/28 Birthday ad says, the rivalry has been a good thing. And if you don't go all fanboy with it, some trash talk can be fun.

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I agree mustang fanboys need to get real. I like mustang, charger, Camaro, and anything else American or Euro, but a mustang will not beat a Camaro around the track, and it's not opinionated it's factually. I always study lap times and watch car reviews. They all praise the Camaro over mustang. Yeah a stock mustang will BARELY beat a stock Camaro in a straight line, but my opinion is that's not all that matters.

I got into a discussion with a guy at work who drives a stock s2000 and he said that his car would stomp a Camaro around the track. Even though I showed him lap times and car reviews saying the car is underpowered or slow he still insisted that the s2k is faster. It's ignorance like that makes a fanboy. Face it there's always going to be a better car. Instead of being ignorant just face the facts and build a car that will beat a car you see as your cars rival. There was definitely a lot of ignorent fanboys in the comments.

I've said this before, and I'll say it again. Let's see more Camaro folks at track days. I have encountered 2 in 3 years. :-(
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The Mustang has always been first to the party. You gotta respect that and be thankfull. However being second to the party allows the Camaro to one up the Mustang. Then the Mustang the Camaro...and that's great for all of us.
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I've said this before, and I'll say it again. Let's see more Camaro folks at track days. I have encounterdeducation in 2 in 3 years. :-(
I've extenended an open invitation to come to Houston. We can can run shifter carts, my track 700hp Camaro and my Z when it arrives. MSR is a fine track. HPDE's usually have an equal number of stangs and Camaros running. But everyone running forced induction is always complaining and checking iat's etc on their computer. NA rules in hot Houston. BtW, stay at my house.
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I forgot to mention, my daughter collects and plays Strats. 70's rock n roll.
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Just noticed my gawd awful autocorrect error. I'd live to come to Texas, but not looking good for this year. Circumstances even dictated I miss the Mustang celebration in Charlotte. A fellow Strat collector? That's a cool daughter.
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I forgot to mention, my daughter collects and plays Strats. 70's rock n roll.

My pride and joy, my 1964 Strat was bought from a fellow in Houston.
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