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Old 07-31-2009, 07:26 PM   #1
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New Era Intake before and after Dyno (26rwhp) No tune

Gains were 16 horses and about 22 pounds of torque. Sorry about my bad math!!!

I got my New Era Intake today, and I took the car to the dyno. I got 16 horses after letting it cool down. I'm very happy witht he intake you can really feel the power in the top end. Also note that temperatures and humidity werent at its best.

No tune done or anything ARH header getting installed tomorrow and tune will be done then.

I'll post pics tomorrow.

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Old 07-31-2009, 07:33 PM   #2
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nice gain's new era makes good stuff. eh i hate those dynos that go by mph and not by rpm.
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Old 07-31-2009, 07:36 PM   #3
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I got my New Era Intake today, and I took the car to the dyno. I got 26 horses after letting it cool down. I'm very happy witht he intake you can really feel the power in the top end. Also note that temperatures and humidity werent at its best.

No tune done or anything ARH header getting installed tomorrow and tune will be done then.

I'll post pics tomorrow.

how was it to install .do you have auto or man
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how was it to install .do you have auto or man
It's a manual and it took me, about an hour.
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It's a manual and it took me, about an hour.
thanks ,did you have to move anything like rad or stuff ,good luck
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Old 07-31-2009, 08:18 PM   #6
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Thats an awesome gain, sounds like money well spent.
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The install is not too too bad.
Just follow the instructions carefully, they are really good instructions.

As for gains.
I have a customer with the L99 whom gained 56 RWHP with the ARH and the New Era intake!!
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The install is not too too bad.
Just follow the instructions carefully, they are really good instructions.

As for gains.
I have a customer with the L99 whom gained 56 RWHP with the ARH and the New Era intake!!
is there any way someone could post the instructions on here .just would like to see what it intails thanks
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See now I have been skeptical of their intak at $500, but man a sold 25hp looks pretty good. As soon as a vararam price comes out with some dyno numbers its more than likely going to be between them.
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Old 07-31-2009, 10:56 PM   #11
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what was the baseline HP when stock?
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Old 08-01-2009, 01:14 AM   #12
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Sorry to sound skeptical but there is no way you gained 26rwhp from just the intake. Looking at your dyno sheet tells the story, at 2:36 you made a pull, 2 mins later you made a second pull and did 371rwhp. (did it take only 2 min to swap the intake and spin up the dyno....unlikely) Then the car sat for 45min (probably while the intake was swapped) and you did 379rwhp.

LS motors are very heat sensative. My LS7 hot did 414rwhp (coolant temps above 220, let it cool down to 200 and the next pull was 446rwhp, nothing changed other then a cool down and I gained 30+rwhp.

If you guys see 5-10rwhp that would be terrific, someone claiming 20+ just doesn't realize what combination of factors are leading to those inflated numbers.
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Sorry to sound skeptical but there is no way you gained 26rwhp from just the intake. Looking at your dyno sheet tells the story, at 2:36 you made a pull, 2 mins later you made a second pull and did 371rwhp. (did it take only 2 min to swap the intake and spin up the dyno....unlikely) Then the car sat for 45min (probably while the intake was swapped) and you did 379rwhp.

LS motors are very heat sensative. My LS7 hot did 414rwhp (coolant temps above 220, let it cool down to 200 and the next pull was 446rwhp, nothing changed other then a cool down and I gained 30+rwhp.

If you guys see 5-10rwhp that would be terrific, someone claiming 20+ just doesn't realize what combination of factors are leading to those inflated numbers.
All pulls today were already witht the intake in, they did an earlier pull in the morning where the car put down 364hp without the intake. The second one did 1st through 4th, then after letting the car cool down they did the last one. At first I was surprise because I didnt see any change from the pulls from earlier, I was about to call New Era and tell them their intake sucks. Then he told me he didnt do a full pull. Like I said I was surprise but in the end happy with the results, you can be as skeptical as you I wont try to change your mind either. It's up to you what you want to believe.

The first pull looks crappy because he didnt do afull pull, he just went first then into second.

I had a C&L intake in my 07 GT and had a gain of 17rwhp with it, so I dont see where you get your 5-10rwhp numbers, maybe from really old cars or something.
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Old 08-01-2009, 02:25 AM   #14
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All pulls today were already witht the intake in, they did an earlier pull in the morning where the car put down 364hp without the intake. The second one did 1st through 4th, then after letting the car cool down they did the last one. At first I was surprise because I didnt see any change from the pulls from earlier, I was about to call New Era and tell them their intake sucks. Then he told me he didnt do a full pull. Like I said I was surprise but in the end happy with the results, you can be as skeptical as you I wont try to change your mind either. It's up to you what you want to believe.

The first pull looks crappy because he didnt do afull pull, he just went first then into second.

I had a C&L intake in my 07 GT and had a gain of 17rwhp with it, so I dont see where you get your 5-10rwhp numbers, maybe from really old cars or something.
Well if 363 (according to the dyno readout) was your base before installing the intake, and 379 was your best WITH the intake, then 379 - 363 = 16 not 26. That's still a decent gain though.
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I agree, maybe he had a dyno done before?? or his math is really bad!
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I tried to organize this for my brain.

First pull in the morning
363 rwhp, 339 torque - why's the torque so low?
First pull after intake
371 rwhp, 368 torque
Final pull after cool down
379 rwhp, 372 torque

For a total of 16 rwhp, I'm not sure what's up with the torque.
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I tried to organize this for my brain.

First pull in the morning
363 rwhp, 339 torque - why's the torque so low?
First pull after intake
371 rwhp, 368 torque
Final pull after cool down
379 rwhp, 372 torque

For a total of 16 rwhp, I'm not sure what's up with the torque.

Well in his 2nd post he says the 1st pull wasn't a full pull thus why the stock numbers were so low. It's rather confusing.

I stand behind what I've seen on alot of LSx cars, most of the gains seen was due to the cooldown period in between runs. I urge others to see what happens when timing gets pulled due to IAT/coolant temps climbing.

If you really wanted to see what a restriction the stock air filter is, remove that before a dyno run and compare.
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Well if 363 (according to the dyno readout) was your base before installing the intake, and 379 was your best WITH the intake, then 379 - 363 = 16 not 26. That's still a decent gain though.
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I agree, maybe he had a dyno done before?? or his math is really bad!
Corrected to 16 yeah my math is really bad sorry about that. lol


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I tried to organize this for my brain.

First pull in the morning
363 rwhp, 339 torque - why's the torque so low?
First pull after intake
371 rwhp, 368 torque
Final pull after cool down
379 rwhp, 372 torque

For a total of 16 rwhp, I'm not sure what's up with the torque.
The first pull wasnt a full pull, he just shifted 1st and 2nd. Dont know why.

All three pulls int hat Dyno are witht he intake though. Earlier we did a pull stock befor eI put it on but it was like 11:30 and temperatures was 92 degrees car put down 364rwhp and 349torque.
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alex33x was this with the rain shield installed?
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Old 08-01-2009, 12:59 PM   #21
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Did the radiator have to be tilted back? If so, does it feel stable?
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16 rwhp at 500 dollars ?we need to see a first pull all the way not half ass then a second then a third .or that wave isnt hello
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We need to see a before and after run at the track.
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Old 08-01-2009, 08:43 PM   #24
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Does the car through a check engine light since installing the CAI System without a tune?

And i am with VelocityC6, There are too many variables to try and say you dynod the car one day for a baseline then installed the CAI system and dynod it the next day to get your results. You need to make a baseline run, then change the CAI on the dyno and make sure the engine temps are identical to get actual hp gains.
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Old 08-02-2009, 12:24 AM   #25
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We need to see a before and after run at the track.
That will do it, good idea.
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