A Note to GM: please make an LSD available on all Camaros

[bxd20]

I have my eyes on a 5th gen Camaro. It would be a daily driver and we live in northern Ohio. So I'd want every piece of mechanical or electronic technology that would make this car safer and better performing in the snow.

I assume stability control will be at least an option on every trim level, from turbo 4/V6 to V8, because it's going to be a gov't mandate soon anyway.

But please do not make the same mistake you made with the G8 V6, leaving the car somewhat hobbled with an open differential!! I want an available Limited Slip Differential, to be able to get the maximum performance out of this car, in wet or dry conditions. Don't put the LSD only on the V8 models please. It's easily worth the $600-700 you'd charge for it. And I know it's already in the parts bin thanks to the CTS with its 3.6.

Thank you
Brian

[radz28]

I'm sure they'd offer it as at least an option, even on V6 models. Didn't they do that with the 4th Gens. too, with like a performance package in the V6? I'm sure they'd offer it, in the least, with anti-slip regulation, or the like. I can't see them not doing that, especially with the cold weather testing images that has been posted on here.

[EllwynX]

My V6 4th Gen had it, I have no doubt the 5th Gen will.

[The_Blur]

I expect that as an option. As previously said, the winter testing is a pretty clear sign that they have some sort of limited-slip project in the works.

[Mythic]

you realize some of us are old enough that Limited Slip Differential is not the first thing that comes to mind when we see LSD.

[NOODLESgoneWILD]

Originally Posted by Mythic

you realize some of us are old enough that Limited Slip Differential is not the first thing that comes to mind when we see LSD.

Glad im not the only one who had that flash back!;

Seriously...i want a AWD system...don't care about the extra weight...being extremely over powered and light weight does nothing for me up here in the Seattle!...If its not Rain, Its Snow, Ice, Leafs, pine cones, rocks..ect...ect...all over the roads!

I'd like to keep it out of the ditch if all possiable!

[Jeff]

Don't worry man. I'm positive GM will offer it as a option

[zerofailure]

Originally Posted by radz282003

I'm sure they'd offer it as at least an option, even on V6 models. Didn't they do that with the 4th Gens. too, with like a performance package in the V6?

yup, just to clarify its known as a Y87 Package. I believe it had the LSD, Dual Exhaust, Better tires from factory, steering rack from the V8s and 4 wheel disc brakes.

[willisit]

The GTO (my Monaro) has an LSD. Would make sense for the Camaro to have one.

[LS9CamaroSS]

i hope we get some sort of posi or limited slip. just would suck if we don't...

[Bruno]

Originally Posted by LS9CamaroSS

i hope we get some sort of posi or limited slip. just would suck if we don't...

Same here. I hope we don't get some electronic traction control version of it like some of the other manufacturers are offering instead of a true limited slip.

[Mythic]

a nice limited Slip or posi-trac is really almost a requirement for the big V8.

Of course I am still hoping for AWD. I'd really like something adaptive like what Subaru puts out.

[Chevyrocker]

Chevrolet now uses a locking rear differential in our trucks instead of the limited slip. This might transfer over for the Camaro.

[radz28]

Do those trickle down into the half-tons too? I'm only asking because I'd figure they wouldn't be as quiet in a passenger car or something like that. I can't relate as my cars have only had limited slips so I'm interested in learning a little more (I do understand how they work mechanically, however am more interested in their applications, FWIW.)

[Dan]

Originally Posted by willisit

The GTO (my Monaro) has an LSD. Would make sense for the Camaro to have one.

Yeah it was standard on the GTO but then the GTO didn't come with 6s or 4s either. I would hope it would be standard on the v8s and be available for the others.

[JustinZS]

Originally Posted by Dan

Yeah it was standard on the GTO but then the GTO didn't come with 6s or 4s either. I would hope it would be standard on the v8s and be available for the others.

That would be a good plan. If GM wants to keep the pricing on lower models as low as possible don't make it standard, but at least make it an option on the lower models. Don't just not offer it at all. Please

[Dom]

So here we are and we now know that LSD will not be offered in a V6 auto camaro. I still don't understand the reasoning behind this move. On the 4th gen V6 it was an option regardless of what transmission one had. There better be a really good reason for not allowing LSD in cars they expect people to daily drive in bad conditions. I want a safe year round daily driver. If there is no option for this I can not buy this car and I don't see why anyone that wants to drive in the snow would.

[rayhawk]

I think the stability control system will work for you in slick conditions, that is standard on all camaros. As for the reason, I understand the auto v6 version has a smaller diff unit that does not carry the limited slip option.

[xl1200r]

Stability control will do what you need it to do in the snow. If one wheels starts to spin, it will apply the brakes until the other has less resitance (the one with the traction) and it will turn the other wheel.

It's all good.

[Dom]

Originally Posted by rayhawk

I think the stability control system will work for you in slick conditions, that is standard on all camaros. As for the reason, I understand the auto v6 version has a smaller diff unit that does not carry the limited slip option.

But why even have two versions? V6 manual gets it but not auto. Why did they give it to the manual version? And the thing I don't understand the most is that there isn't even an option for one. It would even streamline their production by having just one differential. Is the housing still the same size?

[xl1200r]

Originally Posted by Dom

But why even have two versions? V6 manual gets it but not auto. Why did they give it to the manual version? And the thing I don't understand the most is that there isn't even an option for one. It would even streamline their production by having just one differential. Is the housing still the same size?

Likely because there are 2 different versions of the stability control for manual and automatic. If you apply the brakes to an automatic car at slow speed, nothing bad happens. If you do it to a manual when the driver isn't expecting it, it can stall the engine, so an LSD helps out for the real slow speed stuff.

[rayhawk]

Originally Posted by Dom

But why even have two versions? V6 manual gets it but not auto. Why did they give it to the manual version? And the thing I don't understand the most is that there isn't even an option for one. It would even streamline their production by having just one differential. Is the housing still the same size?

I am speculating a bit here, but I believe it is a smaller housing, my guess is they did it for weight/cost savings, figuring the auto car, even when abused will always be much easier on the rear end than the manual car. I do tend to agree with you though, I think it should be standard on the auto v6 version too, I mean the buyer is paying a premium for that transmission, it would be nice to get the better rearend as well-even for a few more bucks.

I can't really remember where I read about the rear-end units, but it is out there somewhere.

[kanys]

Originally Posted by rayhawk

I think it should be standard on the auto v6 version too, I mean the buyer is paying a premium for that transmission

Yeah this is what I am thinking too, I really hope they make it standard, and at the very least an option!

[Jiu Jitsu Jon]

Please folks, LSD and driving don't mix. How bummed will you be when you wrap your new Camaro around a telephone pole because you swerved to miss the big red fire-breathing dragon?

Hallucinations FTL.

[shadowed_Stranger]

Originally Posted by Jiu Jitsu Jon

Please folks, LSD and driving don't mix. How bummed will you be when you wrap your new Camaro around a telephone pole because you swerved to miss the big red fire-breathing dragon?

Hallucinations FTL.

So I read that quote, and then I looked at your avatar to see the man (seemingly) under the influnce of various substances himself. THAT was trippy.