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Old 08-02-2009, 03:29 PM   #1
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2010 Camaro Rear End, strong? weak??

So whats the deal with the stock Camaro SS rear end? I've heard it can handle 700 Hp easily from some and others are saying there breaking left and right?? Whats the truth and what exactly is breaking on the rear end? I'm looking to make my car a 650 HP everyday driver and don't want to be spitting rear ends out all the time. Thanks.
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Old 08-02-2009, 04:17 PM   #2
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so far all i have heard of is some axle shaft failures, but someone on here was making hd axleshafts for around $1800 if i remember correctly
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Old 08-02-2009, 04:41 PM   #3
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There was a limited problem with the output shafts in a select number of manual v8 trannys. It has been diagnosed and is being resolved. The tranny is tremec and is proven in vettes, vipers, stangs and everything else. All of those cars use some version of tremec and the ss didn't get a bad version just some of them got a few bad parts. It was not widespread. I think your safe in the 600 to 700 hp range.
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Old 08-07-2009, 02:20 PM   #4
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There has been a few people breaking the axle shafts, not the inner or outer stubs but the shaft itself.
The inner and outer stubs are huge in comparison to the GTO IRS. It's the axle shafts that are the weak link.
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Old 08-15-2009, 12:18 PM   #5
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I ran my car pretty hard at the track last night for about 8 - 10 runs and it felt solid. I have the LPE 570hp package putting 520hp to the wheels. I also have 2200 miles on the car. I think you are safe as well.
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Old 08-15-2009, 01:15 PM   #6
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I ran my car pretty hard at the track last night for about 8 - 10 runs and it felt solid. I have the LPE 570hp package putting 520hp to the wheels. I also have 2200 miles on the car. I think you are safe as well.
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Old 08-15-2009, 01:31 PM   #7
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There has been a few people breaking the axle shafts, not the inner or outer stubs but the shaft itself.
The inner and outer stubs are huge in comparison to the GTO IRS. It's the axle shafts that are the weak link.
Have you seen pictures of these broken shafts? The only pictures I have seen were on ls1tech and it was actually the inner ball race of the cv joint that broke, not the shaft. From others descriptions, it is hard to be sure what is actually failing. Either way, I'm not sure if these are defective parts or if they are simply a marginally sized cv joint. Based on some in the 11's on stock units, as well as the failure mode (several not even at full power) of the shafts/cv joints, I believe the failed ones were probably just defective, similar to the tailshaft issue.
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Old 08-15-2009, 06:07 PM   #8
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Old 08-17-2009, 11:18 AM   #9
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What did you run at the track with that package?
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Old 08-13-2010, 01:32 PM   #10
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Old 08-13-2010, 02:01 PM   #11
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So whats the deal with the stock Camaro SS rear end? I've heard it can handle 700 Hp easily from some and others are saying there breaking left and right?? Whats the truth and what exactly is breaking on the rear end? I'm looking to make my car a 650 HP everyday driver and don't want to be spitting rear ends out all the time. Thanks.
Look at my post about the axle half shafts.

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=97387

I ran it about 10 passes at the track without issues. I did one small burn-out and power shift and broke the passenger side. It didn't break into two pieces or at the shaft itself.
BTW - Car is 100% stock.

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Old 08-13-2010, 02:38 PM   #12
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What Dealer did you take it to?....... When its returned can you post the new revised part number?
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Old 08-15-2010, 03:57 AM   #13
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The rear end is strong and only needs upgraded axles for your intended power goal. The stock rear center section has lived fine in 9 second cars.
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Old 08-15-2010, 10:08 AM   #14
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The rear end is strong and only needs upgraded axles for your intended power goal. The stock rear center section has lived fine in 9 second cars.
I would disagree,first there has only been a handfull of 9 second passes and most of the time those are types of cars that dont get many miles on them,in other words the next pass could be the rears last.Most cars that run great times use a smaller rim than the 20 inch stock wheel therefore giving the rear a big cusion since it has alot more sidewall to soften the hit. We have seen many,many failures with the stock rear and aftermarket gears due to the size of the gear and the weight of the camaro. You can have a lot less power than the 9 second guys and granade your rear with the much smaller sidewall that your 20s have.
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