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Old 04-22-2014, 02:26 PM   #26
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The Ford GT is an interesting case. They made a lot of them as far as limited production goes, over 4,000. And while the MSRP was $150k, very few sold for under $200k, some of them sold for over $250k.

Today, you can pick them up for $150-$250k based on latest Ebay SOLD prices. Hence, some people could have lost money on them.

So even they aren't necessarily collectible.

I would not be surprised if they go back under MSRP in the future due to the high production numbers. Very few modern cars ever become collectible.
I think more people bought Ford GTs and locked them away than almost any other car I've seen. I realize the Z/28 isn't comparable at half the MSRP (far less than half if inflation-adjusted), and I believe that a much higher percentage of Z/28s will be driven.

Though a lot have folks have speculated that most Z/28s will become garage queens, I disagree. I believe that it will be something closer to 75/25 -- 75% of owners will drive, use, and enjoy their Z/28s, while a quarter of owners will lock them away. How could you own one and resist the temptation to drive it?!?
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I was just going by memory...IIRC Fbodfather himself stated part of the reason for a low build number or high cost or something was CAFE

Sounds familiar

If trucks and SUVs are counted then I can see why GM would want to keep a limit on LS7s. Trucks/SUVs are their bread and butter.

Now if only they can sell more Volts
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Classic Example of late model collectibility:

2000 Cobra R - Total Production 300, one year only. MSRP $55k. Very high markup past MSRP. Historically significant. The fastest Mustang built up to that point, good race history. Price climbed for years.

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Classic Example of late model collectibility:

2000 Cobra R - Total Production 300, one year only. MSRP $55k. Very high markup past MSRP. Historically significant. The fastest Mustang built up to that point, good race history. Price climbed for years.

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Low mileage = http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ford-Mustang...US_Cars_Trucks
Yep, I seriously doubt any new model car will ever become super collectible. Part of what made some cars so collectible from the 60s is that you could have some super rare options in certain combos. Back when you could option out a car exactly how YOU wanted it. that made for some fairly unique and rare cars
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Now if only they can sell more Volts
They need to lend people a Volt for a week and tell them how to use it right.

The Volt is a hellavu car. Way under-rated by the magazines. Nimble, quick, and comfy for an econobox. It's my favorite car to drive on crowded city streets. Power is instant, and carves like a knife.

What the dealer and mags don't tell you:

Always drive in L range. This is not low gear. It is maximum regeneration. Chop the throttle and it slows like high compression manual trans.

Always drive in Sport Mode. More fun.

3585 miles now, and it's used 7.8 gallons of gas, and used $93 worth of electricity.

BUT... It's not the economy that makes it fun to drive. Can you imagine driving for months and never stopping at a gas station?
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They need to lend people a Volt for a week and tell them how to use it right.

The Volt is a hellavu car. Way under-rated by the magazines. Nimble, quick, and comfy for an econobox. It's my favorite car to drive on crowded city streets. Power is instant, and carves like a knife.

What the dealer and mags don't tell you:

Always drive in L range. This is not low gear. It is maximum regeneration. Chop the throttle and it slows like high compression manual trans.

Always drive in Sport Mode. More fun.

3585 miles now, and it's used 7.8 gallons of gas, and used $93 worth of electricity.

BUT... It's not the economy that makes it fun to drive. Can you imagine driving for months and never stopping at a gas station?
Wow that is pretty good.
convert that $93.00 into gallons of gas. say 3.50 per gallon and you are getting over 100mpg
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When was an era when a modern car was collectible during in its modern on-the-market timespan? Being serious here, not trying to be an a$$.

In my experience, only time will tell if a car is truly "collectible". Assumptions can be made but only time will tell.
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Sounds familiar

If trucks and SUVs are counted then I can see why GM would want to keep a limit on LS7s. Trucks/SUVs are their bread and butter.

Now if only they can sell more Volts
Throw in a Volt with the purchase of every V8 automobile?

Seriously though, we have to give thanks to my buddy who could have purchased an SS Camaro but given that he had just piled on some more student debt he opted for a Cruise because of cheaper up front and usage costs. So he's helping us out with that CAFE nonsense.

Wish I had the change to add a Z/28 to my garage. Just wasn't willing to give up my current car to get one. Collector's value or not, it will be a historic icon.
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When was an era when a modern car was collectible during in its modern on-the-market timespan? Being serious here, not trying to be an a$$.

In my experience, only time will tell if a car is truly "collectible". Assumptions can be made but only time will tell.
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If and when a 6Gen Z/28 is made it will affect the 5Gen's value. If better performing you'll see the 5Gen Z/28 lose value. If they only make a 6Gen Z28 (no slash) that will affect the 5Gen's positively.
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I wouldn't expect much more over 2500, even with higher demand....How long did it take to build the first 500?....Maybe only so many can be built in a certain amount of time anyhow......And, it's a fifth-gen car....They're gonna have to end it at some point regardless of demand....
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When was an era when a modern car was collectible during in its modern on-the-market timespan? Being serious here, not trying to be an a$$.

In my experience, only time will tell if a car is truly "collectible". Assumptions can be made but only time will tell.

was going to post this

I am 33. In the year 2045 i am supposed to retire (according to my 401k). I could see cars like the Cobra R, Ford GT, Z/28 etc going for a mint then. That is also 30 years down the road.

Other cars that might bring in some coin - Acura Integra Type Rs and Evos - the imports that everyone wanted in the early 2000s - because those were the affordable "race cars" people wanted.

One of my brother works for a hot rod shop - they used to specialize in the traditional "hot rods" (32 ford roadsters etc) but he said that is a dying market for them. The muscle cars are the indemand thing now.

I am sure we will get to a point where even those 60s and early 70s car will take a huge hit because people never could relate to them.
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I am 33. In the year 2045 i am supposed to retire (according to my 401k). I could see cars like the Cobra R, Ford GT, Z/28 etc going for a mint then. That is also 30 years down the road.

Other cars that might bring in some coin - Acura Integra Type Rs and Evos - the imports that everyone wanted in the early 2000s - because those were the affordable "race cars" people wanted.

One of my brother works for a hot rod shop - they used to specialize in the traditional "hot rods" (32 ford roadsters etc) but he said that is a dying market for them. The muscle cars are the indemand thing now.

I am sure we will get to a point where even those 60s and early 70s car will take a huge hit because people never could relate to them.
Well said, especially your last sentence.
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They need to lend people a Volt for a week and tell them how to use it right.

The Volt is a hellavu car. Way under-rated by the magazines. Nimble, quick, and comfy for an econobox. It's my favorite car to drive on crowded city streets. Power is instant, and carves like a knife.

What the dealer and mags don't tell you:

Always drive in L range. This is not low gear. It is maximum regeneration. Chop the throttle and it slows like high compression manual trans.

Always drive in Sport Mode. More fun.

3585 miles now, and it's used 7.8 gallons of gas, and used $93 worth of electricity.

BUT... It's not the economy that makes it fun to drive. Can you imagine driving for months and never stopping at a gas station?

i love the Volt. It is a fun car and tried getting the wife into one but she wants a 3rd kid sooooo it is out.

But did a quick math - $93 at $4/gal = 23.25 gal worth of gas. 7.8+23.25=31.05 total cost in gas.
3585miles/31.05 = 115.46mpg!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Or in terms of just fuel (say you have free electricity from solar power) 459.6mpg

It is a kick ass car in that respect
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When was an era when a modern car was collectible during in its modern on-the-market timespan? Being serious here, not trying to be an a$$.

In my experience, only time will tell if a car is truly "collectible". Assumptions can be made but only time will tell.
Classics and antiques are almost always collectible (ie - escalate in value).

Not a lot of cars in the digital era are.

Example, they made 3/4 million of First Gen Camaros. 20 years later, nearly all models that were clean and original sold for more than original MSRP on the used market.

They made 7,000 ZR-1 Corvettes. That's 1% of the first gen Camaro numbers. Twenty years later, they sell for far under MSRP.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Chevrolet-Co...US_Cars_Trucks

People want the Classics because most collectors grew up in the muscle car era. Many still believe they were the pinnacle of American cars.

They really believe muscle cars ran 11 second ET's off the showroom floor, not the 15 sec ET's that were more common for the performance models.

They want the fantasy of the car they could not afford growing up, not the actual high maintenance, low durability, crappy handling, worthless brakes, low power, gas guzzlers that they really were. They are buying the looks and the memory of that era.
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Classics and antiques are almost always collectible (ie - escalate in value).

Not a lot of cars in the digital era are.

Example, they made 3/4 million of First Gen Camaros. 20 years later, nearly all models that were clean and original sold for more than original MSRP on the used market.

They made 7,000 ZR-1 Corvettes. That's 1% of the first gen Camaro numbers. Twenty years later, they sell for far under MSRP.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Chevrolet-Co...US_Cars_Trucks

People want the Classics because most collectors grew up in the muscle car era. Many still believe they were the pinnacle of American cars.

They really believe muscle cars ran 11 second ET's off the showroom floor, not the 15 sec ET's that were more common for the performance models.

They want the fantasy of the car they could not afford growing up, not the actual high maintenance, low durability, crappy handling, worthless brakes, low power, gas guzzlers that they really were. They are buying the looks and the memory of that era.
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The reason I brought up the ZR-1 is specific.

IMO, that is the car that started the Second Horsepower War. It was faster than any version of the Corvette made prior to that, even the big blocks.

The second horsepower war is not over. This has a lot to do with why digital cars are not normally collectible. The first horsepower war had an end, ~1971. After that cars got slower every year. So enthusiasts pined for the "old days", and started wanting those cars.
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When was an era when a modern car was collectible during in its modern on-the-market timespan? Being serious here, not trying to be an a$$.

In my experience, only time will tell if a car is truly "collectible". Assumptions can be made but only time will tell.
I believe there was such a time.

1969 - 1970 426 CI Hemi's in almost ANY street form. Cuda, GTX, Roadrunner, etc. etc. They were the Cat's Meow back then, the preferred drag stuffed car, and the monster on the street. And, folks who had them know they had a brute collectible. Sorry for those who may disagree, but if you lived and breathed back then, you know I'm right.
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1969 - 1970 426 CI Hemi's in almost ANY street form. Cuda, GTX, Roadrunner, etc. etc. They were the Cat's Meow back then, the preferred drag stuffed car, and the monster on the street. And, folks who had them know they had a brute collectible. Sorry for those who may disagree, but if you lived and breathed back then, you know I'm right.
At the drags the 440x6 usually beat the Hemi's cause many guys had a hard time tuning the Hemi. However professionals could get the Hemi to perform well. Also with the Hemi the power came on late.
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At the drags the 440x6 usually beat the Hemi's cause many guys had a hard time tuning the Hemi. However professionals could get the Hemi to perform well. Also with the Hemi the power came on late.
^This^

The 440ci/375hp had a wider powerband and about the same torque as the 426ci/425hp.

Both made for high 13 second cars at just over 100mph trap speed.

Only when you "tweaked" the Hemi did it outperform the 440. Hot Rod threw on some headers (open), jetted it, adjusted timing, removed aircleaner, and ran low 13's at 109.

Now, that was certainly not stock, but let's pretend it is.

Both the LS1 era Fbodies and the Hemi Chargers weighed about the same.

The LS1 era Fbody was 346ci/305hp-320hp. Mine ran low 13's stock at 108mph.

Mild tweaks had it running 12.5x at 111.x mph.

Anyone STILL believe the HP ratings of the 60's were correct?
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Well a few things at play. In 1998 both suspension and tires are far and away better than anything in the muscle car era.

Take a 3500lbs car (approx of a road runner in 1970) with that HEMI - that is 354whp. Typically i find that automatics take about 100hp off of the flywheel to the rear wheels

So 450hp.

I think the motors made the HP but i also believe there was some "fudging" going on. The other parts of the car however, just suck.

A few years back a Pro Stock racer by the name of Max Naylor was having a hard time competing with the big boys in Pro Stock like Jeg Coughlin.
He made a simple switch - ditched his goodyear slicks for hoosiers and qualified #1!!!!

Same setup other than tire and he went from nobody to king of the hill....for a few races. Then NHRA banned using tires outside of the regular Goodyears.
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"But that doesn’t mean Chevrolet plans to constrain production of the $75,000 muscle car. Oppenheiser said the company plans to produce to demand and projects that it will build 2,500 for the 2015 model year, although more will be made if the demand exists. "

So, only 2014 is limited production. 2015 is build-to-demand as many here suggested would happen. I personally thought they would limit the build so I was wrong about that and I accept my helping of crow. GM is a business and one that has, and is, facing a many challenges (as are nearly all manufacturers), so it's perfectly understandable that they would build as many as can be sold.

The good news for enthusiasts is that now you are not risking a $100k+ collector car to take it on track and it is now a commodity as any car would be and prices on used ones will be reasonable.

As much as I am unhappy future values will not be through the roof, I am more happy to know there will be a bunch of these on track to play with
This is great news to me. So it won't be a collector car garage queen after all. Drive those Z/28s on the track!
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I believe there was such a time.

1969 - 1970 426 CI Hemi's in almost ANY street form. Cuda, GTX, Roadrunner, etc. etc. They were the Cat's Meow back then, the preferred drag stuffed car, and the monster on the street. And, folks who had them know they had a brute collectible. Sorry for those who may disagree, but if you lived and breathed back then, you know I'm right.
Hemi's weren't all that. In the real world a Stage 2 Buick was a faster car. And easier to live with. And much better built.

The reason hemi's are so collectable now is "back in the day" nobody wanted one so not many were produced. And during the gas rationing era hemi anythings sat unloved on used car lots just like any other big block car.
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