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Old 04-28-2014, 07:39 PM   #15
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saw one of these on the road a few weeks ago. I have to say, without the body cladding it looks no worse, probably better than many cars on the road today. Such as Hyundai Veloster, Nissan Juke, Kia Soul, Nissan Cube and I am sure there are more!





It was an odd little car before its time. I had a crunchy neighbor that used to take his camping all over new england. The rear actually turned into some sort of tent. I think if it came out today, with slightly rounder edges it could be sold to the people who are flocking to the array of ugly little nerd cars that have since flooded our streets
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Old 04-28-2014, 07:50 PM   #16
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absolutely love my 13' and would get a '14 in a heartbeat if i didn't have it. As a young guy, I can safely say that the camaro got me into cars as a whole, as a pass time… a testament to how great the design was

Keep it up GM, future generations will follow suit if you keep up these badass designs
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Old 04-28-2014, 07:57 PM   #17
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[QUOTE=EmeryZ28;7620681]saw one of these on the road a few weeks ago. I have to say, without the body cladding it looks no worse, probably better than many cars on the road today. Such as Hyundai Veloster, Nissan Juke, Kia Soul, Nissan Cube and I am sure there are more!




That poor lil' Aztec actually looks pretty good considering whats out there today and the other brands you mentioned...
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Old 04-28-2014, 08:00 PM   #18
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saw one of these on the road a few weeks ago. I have to say, without the body cladding it looks no worse, probably better than many cars on the road today. Such as Hyundai Veloster, Nissan Juke, Kia Soul, Nissan Cube and I am sure there are more!




That poor lil' Aztec actually looks pretty good considering whats out there today and the other brands you mentioned...

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Old 04-28-2014, 08:23 PM   #19
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"With the face-lifted 2014 Camaro, Peters and his team wanted to make the car look lower, wider, and meaner."

"The rear of the new Camaro was also designed to be meaner than before."

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Old 04-28-2014, 08:30 PM   #20
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"With the face-lifted 2014 Camaro, Peters and his team wanted to make the car look lower, wider, and meaner."

"The rear of the new Camaro was also designed to be meaner than before."

I dont know if it looks "meaner" but it does look cleaned up quite a bit and glad they moved the small backup lights back up into the tailights...
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Old 04-28-2014, 10:30 PM   #21
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That headline had me until "Aztek"...


ORIGINAL ARTICLE HERE

GM Designer Tom Peters on Camaro, Corvette, and Pontiac Aztek
By Christian Seabaugh - Photos By Brian Vance - April 26, 2014

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.....With the face-lifted 2014 Camaro, Peters and his team wanted to make the car look lower, wider, and meaner. Peters told us his solution was to look to classic Camaro's like his '69....
No, Peters didn't you anything about the "like" belonging to his '69 Camaro, Mr. Seabaugh!

Somebody tell Christian Seabaugh and his editor that you do not make nouns plural by use of an apostrophe. You assign a quality of possession by doing that. I'm sick of people getting credit for articles and having their name in print when they use apostrophes willy-nilly, sometimes trying to pluralize with them and other times not sticking them onto plural nouns. It's nothing but hack writing; journalism used to be a respectable profession. Now it's a bad joke. But then again, it's Motor Trend.

If you feel the word "Camaros" looks awkward Mr. Seabaugh, simply write "Peters told us his solution was to look to classic Camaro examples like his '69...." or "Peters told us his solution was to look to classic Camaro designs like his '69....". Don't slap apostrophes onto words just because you're stumped.
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Old 04-28-2014, 10:35 PM   #22
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the original Aztec show car wasn't too bad.... but still ugly

the C6 was ultra conservative... poor Peters was scared to death he'd be fired. all he did was shrink it down and delete the pop ups.

now Camaro was a nice design... I didn't know he did the Camaro.
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Old 04-28-2014, 10:54 PM   #23
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the original Aztec show car wasn't too bad.... but still ugly

the C6 was ultra conservative... poor Peters was scared to death he'd be fired. all he did was shrink it down and delete the pop ups.

now Camaro was a nice design... I didn't know he did the Camaro.
The C5 was nice but the C6 was awesome just look at a C6 Z06 in Black and tell me you don't get a boner.
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Old 04-28-2014, 11:16 PM   #24
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the C4 was a big change... the C5 was a big change (I loved that rear). The C6 was YAWN. The C7 is another big change.

The C6 was made smaller to appeal to Europeans. The C6 cost less to manufacture than the C5. They will be doing the same thing for the new Camaro. Smaller cheaper. I can't blame GM if it makes $$$$, but I prefer larger cars myself.
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Old 04-29-2014, 01:16 AM   #25
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I was raised a Mopar kid during the muscle car era but I did grow up and enjoy ALL US car mfrs, that said I still point out Azteks and Vibes to my 2 boys (17 & 15) and let them know that those models destroyed a great American car brand....
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I was raised a Mopar kid during the muscle car era but I did grow up and enjoy ALL US car mfrs, that said I still point out Azteks and Vibes to my 2 boys (17 & 15) and let them know that those models destroyed a great American car brand....
Pontiac got dumped because of the bail out,they wanted GM to dump Buick and the GMC truck brand as well but GM sells a lot of Buicks in China.

Besides that every car in the Pontiac line up was in need of a refresh or model replacement and there was nothing in the works.

Buick on the other hand a lot of new product in the pipeline and wouldn't cost a ton of money to go forward.
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Old 04-29-2014, 01:55 PM   #27
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saw one of these on the road a few weeks ago. I have to say, without the body cladding it looks no worse, probably better than many cars on the road today. Such as Hyundai Veloster, Nissan Juke, Kia Soul, Nissan Cube and I am sure there are more!




That poor lil' Aztec actually looks pretty good considering whats out there today and the other brands you mentioned...
I'll look at an Aztec any day over seeing a Prius on the road. You want to talk about ugly...
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Old 04-29-2014, 02:06 PM   #28
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Call me a cynic but I don't see the union between Camaro and S10 in this.

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