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Old 05-03-2014, 08:41 PM   #26
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Here's what I don't get. He accidentally slips and says one word that is extremely common on an unaired version of the show and the world is up in arms but yet almost every episode he purposely goes on air and insults America and other racial minorities and no one says or does anything.
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Old 05-03-2014, 08:52 PM   #27
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Not a cracker, he is a POME!
He's a pikey lol
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Old 05-03-2014, 09:04 PM   #28
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Old 05-03-2014, 09:08 PM   #29
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Don't be getting all barmy with your dogs bollocks!

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Top Gear presenter Jeremy Clarkson says the BBC has told him he will be sacked if he makes "one more offensive remark, anywhere, at any time".

"And even the angel Gabriel would struggle to survive with that hanging over his head.

"It's inevitable that one day, someone, somewhere will say that I've offended them, and that will be that."
It'll probably be that daft cow Piers Morgan ... they have a GREAT rapport lol
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Love the show I thing he is a great host. sooner or later they have to move one of them out to try and get younger and transition to a new crew to keep the show going. If not how long can this show last its a car variety show sooner or latter needs new host like the late shows do.
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Old 05-03-2014, 09:59 PM   #31
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Is this a television personality? Am I missing something of importance? I don't watch the boob-tube.
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Old 05-03-2014, 11:11 PM   #32
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Is this a television personality? Am I missing something of importance? I don't watch the boob-tube.
At ~22 seconds you see the controversial snippet...
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Old 05-04-2014, 01:40 PM   #34
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I don't think any of you listened to the explanation. Using offensive vocabulary in an "eenie-meenie-minie-moe" capacity is hardly offensive by any definition, and he muttered in an effort not to say the word, then realizing this asked for another take. This was never aired.

In all, this whole charade is bull excrement of the highest refinement.
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.............. [edited for the sake of brevity]

In all, this whole charade is bull excrement of the highest refinement.
Agreed, but the feces still proceeded to impact the oscillating rotator
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I have no sound on this computer (server), but I'm assuming he said nagger (sic)?

I hear that word dozens of times a week. Along with Beach (sic) hoe etc.

It is only offensive speech if used by certain humans.
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Old 05-04-2014, 02:12 PM   #37
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Agreed, but the feces still proceeded to impact the oscillating rotator
And, thus, there is now feces everywhere—on the walls, on the ceiling, everywhere.
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I have no sound on this computer (server), but I'm assuming he said nagger (sic)?

I hear that word dozens of times a week. Along with Beach (sic) hoe etc.

It is only offensive speech if used by certain humans.
He actually said, "...mumblemumblemumble..." seriously, that's what was heard.
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And, thus, there is now feces everywhere—on the walls, on the ceiling, everywhere.
See? That's why we can't have nice things.
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Old 05-04-2014, 02:22 PM   #39
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I feel like he thinks he is superior to all people in a sort of comical way and doesn't realize he can be offensive. As a half black person I still love him and do not really get too much a racist vibe from him. I feel like he treats all people the same. He definitely messed up though and needs to stop with this crap. He is plenty funny without all the racist tinge.
Funny thing is, if he did get fired he would just go and make his own show. Tons of people would follow and watch and there are surely companies that would jump right on that.
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Old 05-04-2014, 02:40 PM   #41
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I feel like he thinks he is superior to all people in a sort of comical way and doesn't realize he can be offensive. As a half black person I still love him and do not really get too much a racist vibe from him. I feel like he treats all people the same. He definitely messed up though and needs to stop with this crap. He is plenty funny without all the racist tinge.
Funny thing is, if he did get fired he would just go and make his own show. Tons of people would follow and watch and there are surely companies that would jump right on that.

He's an arrogant prick, lol, but that's a part of his charm. I agree 100%, he's an equal-opportunity prick and not specifically a racist.

The trouble here is, I think, that as an arrogant prick, people secretly or not-so secretly want him to get raked over some coals., since he says snide things so often.

In other words: "you live by the sword, you die by the sword". If he wasn't such a general all around arrogant prick, people would be like "stupid Clarkson, wise up". Instead, they are sticking it to him. Right wrong or otherwise, he baked the cake he's eating.
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Wow. I finally got to hear what all the uproar is about. Really? REALLY???? Lordy, the more I read the press, the more I fear for our children's future.

He was comparing two cars, and said:

"Eenie meanie miney moe, catch a (unintelligible mumble) by the toe ..."

Uh, PRESS DUDES? This a children's chant from over a hundred years, maybe hundreds. It dates back to when n`gger was the politically correct noun for Africans. It's like saying "gay" means homosexual in a 16th century play.

Most of us, black, white, blue, green, learned this chant as kids many years ago.

So let's throw people to the wolves for:

"Ring around the rosies, pocket full of posies, ashes, ashes, we all fall down!"

This is from the medieval times.

Ring around the rosies - Describes the puss filled blister.
Pocket full of posies - The stench of death was so strong everywhere, that people carried flowers with them to avoid puking.
Ashes, ashes - there were so many corpses, there were constant bonfires (bone fires, huge fires to torch the corpses) raining ash everywhere.
We all fall down - We are all going to die.

This was due to White Europeans terrible sanitary practices, which caused the Black Plague.

How freakin' offensive to white Europeans??? You are SO filthy that everyone is dying from your poor hygiene.

Next adult on TV that hums or sings that should be thrown on the bonfire. How DARE they???!!!
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Old 05-04-2014, 04:32 PM   #43
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Wow. I finally got to hear what all the uproar is about. Really? REALLY???? Lordy, the more I read the press, the more I fear for our children's future.

He was comparing two cars, and said:

"Eenie meanie miney moe, catch a (unintelligible mumble) by the toe ..."

Uh, PRESS DUDES? This a children's chant from over a hundred years, maybe hundreds. It dates back to when n`gger was the politically correct noun for Africans. It's like saying "gay" means homosexual in a 16th century play.

Most of us, black, white, blue, green, learned this chant as kids many years ago.

So let's throw people to the wolves for:

"Ring around the rosies, pocket full of posies, ashes, ashes, we all fall down!"

This is from the medieval times.

Ring around the rosies - Describes the puss filled blister.
Pocket full of posies - The stench of death was so strong everywhere, that people carried flowers with them to avoid puking.
Ashes, ashes - there were so many corpses, there were constant bonfires (bone fires, huge fires to torch the corpses) raining ash everywhere.
We all fall down - We are all going to die.

This was due to White Europeans terrible sanitary practices, which caused the Black Plague.

How freakin' offensive to white Europeans??? You are SO filthy that everyone is dying from your poor hygiene.

Next adult on TV that hums or sings that should be thrown on the bonfire. How DARE they???!!!

Imagine a world where our shared historical perspective were shared with the press. Even better, imagine a world where the press simply shared facts instead of seeking the next witch to burn.
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Old 05-04-2014, 06:20 PM   #45
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I have no sound on this computer (server), but I'm assuming he said nagger (sic)?

I hear that word dozens of times a week. Along with Beach (sic) hoe etc.

It is only offensive speech if used by certain humans.
You mean white people. You might as well just say it, it's true far more often than not.

First time I've listened to that clip too. WTF to the chronically offended. And it wasn't aired. And it was years ago. Someone released it LOOKING for something to complain about.

I don't think anybody has any idea what "racist" really is anymore. Everything gets twisted to be racist (or not racist, depending on which "certain human" you are). I don't understand why certain phrases, jokes, and actions are acceptable in some situations and by some people, but not in all situations by all people. I can't help but snicker when someone makes a generalization about <insert racial group here> and everyone gets up in arms, but for some reason the same reaction isn't had when people utter "white trash" or "redneck". Seems to me that those terms are used in generally derogatory statements, and they are obviously only talking about a certain culture of a certain race. I give up trying to understand the human race.
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Let's just use these terms: caucasoid negroid and mongoloid

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Let's just use these terms: caucasoid negroid and mongoloid

http://blog.world-mysteries.com/scie...-in-the-world/
Use it in the right tone & inflection of the word, and caucasoid can become as offensive as anything else...
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Old 05-04-2014, 07:29 PM   #48
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Good thing he didn't tell what PONTIAC stands for.
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I understand that these firestorms of controversy is often just the media fanning a flame to extract a few more eyes and advertisement money. That stated, I am not a minority, so I have no perspective to say whether or not the inappropriate things J Clarkson says should be offensive. As an American, I do find his musings about fat and lazy Americans to be somewhat rude and unnecessary. In an off topic but related matter, I am always amused at how Kentuckians so passionately sing and romanticize "My Old Kentucky Home" which is nothing more than a Minstrel song about black people being sold into slavery in Kentucky and as they go down the river, they fondly remember their home left behind in Kentucky...along those lines. It was not until the 1986 that they removed the term "Darkies" out of the official state song. Yet, that never gets dragged out for the Kentucky Derby and many Kentuckians don't even know the history of the song.
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Good thing he didn't tell what PONTIAC stands for.
You would have to be really stupid to think it was a Caddy!
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