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J-vette · 05-06-2014, 10:44 AM

Any possibly we are getting leftover corvette ls3's with the higher horsepower in our 1le's. It was done when the ls1's from the vette was going into the camaros bc the ls2's came out.

Or could it be GM has upped the HP on the ls3 & not said anything for whatever reason. Thoughts on this.

Ragnar · 05-06-2014, 10:52 AM

From what others had reported, with the NPP and electric steering, that is easy 10-12 hp! A little hear and a little there can add up!

J-vette · 05-06-2014, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by wadewatkins3

From what others had reported, with the NPP and electric steering, that is easy 10-12 hp! A little hear and a little there can add up!

Yea good point, forgot about that.

Shiftgreen · 05-06-2014, 01:24 PM

how does electric steering add extra hp to our cars? I want more though haha I'm about to get a CAI and soon a throttle body, hopefully that'll do something.

Spektrum · 05-06-2014, 01:44 PM

A belt driven P/S pump requires more effort to operate than an electric unit, robbing more HP. Think of your A/C when the compressor clutch engages, you can feel it robbing power, the belt driven P/S is the same way except it is always "on".

SS MPSTR · 05-06-2014, 01:52 PM

I doubt it. Factory under-rated from day one.

joes407 · 05-10-2014, 06:43 AM

By looking at the fast list times id say we did not get an upgraded ls3

J-vette · 05-11-2014, 11:49 AM

I wasn't talking about the fast list times but the dynos that I've seen. Also the Corvettes got the lt1 now.

joes407 · 05-11-2014, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by J-vette

I wasn't talking about the fast list times but the dynos that I've seen. Also the Corvettes got the lt1 now.

Point me in the directions of said dynos. Im very interested since I just bought a 14 1le

TxBandit911 · 05-11-2014, 08:19 PM

I thought the LS2 came out after the 4th Gens went out of production....I could be wrong tho, its been a while...

I know the '01-'02 Fbodies got a LS6 intake and a minor cam/fuel injector adjustment, but that happened all the time thru the years anyway....

WHAMMO · 05-12-2014, 04:41 AM

Sorry but OP, you just fell into GM's classic marketing about Vette. Same engine from A to Z. The only diffetence are the electric PS pump and NPP. The drivetrain on the Vette robs less HP too. Thats all.

Engine were all the same since day one in Vette and Camaro (97-02). Ls2 came out in 05, with the C6. The LS6 made the difference in hp in 01-02 in fbodies. Of course the Z06 had the LS6 back then. LS6 in f-bodies was more a rumor than anything.

The 2010-11' L99 had horrible tunes from factory. They got a lot better in 2013.

PAUL SS · 05-12-2014, 08:58 AM

The 1970 Camaro Z28's had the same LT1 as the Corvette, but 10 less horsepower, 360 vs 370. The exhaust was one reason given, but Chevy (GM) just could not have a Camaro with the same hp as a Corvette.

lbls1 · 05-12-2014, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by WHAMMO

Sorry but OP, you just fell into GM's classic marketing about Vette. Same engine from A to Z. The only diffetence are the electric PS pump and NPP. The drivetrain on the Vette robs less HP too. Thats all.

Engine were all the same since day one in Vette and Camaro (97-02). Ls2 came out in 05, with the C6. The LS6 made the difference in hp in 01-02 in fbodies. Of course the Z06 had the LS6 back then. LS6 in f-bodies was more a rumor than anything.

The 2010-11' L99 had horrible tunes from factory. They got a lot better in 2013.

I was waiting for someone to say this!!! GM uses the same engine in different applications, and they rate them according to their marketing strategy; Thus the corvette will almost always have the highest power rating among the GM fleet.

TxBandit911 · 05-12-2014, 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by WHAMMO

Sorry but OP, you just fell into GM's classic marketing about Vette. Same engine from A to Z. The only diffetence are the electric PS pump and NPP. The drivetrain on the Vette robs less HP too. Thats all.

Engine were all the same since day one in Vette and Camaro (97-02). Ls2 came out in 05, with the C6. The LS6 made the difference in hp in 01-02 in fbodies. Of course the Z06 had the LS6 back then. LS6 in f-bodies was more a rumor than anything.

The 2010-11' L99 had horrible tunes from factory. They got a lot better in 2013.

The '97 fbodies had the LT1 in them, a select few had a LT4...

05-06-2014, 10:44 AM	#1
J-vette Drives: '14 1le Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Houston Posts: 486	Leftover ls3's from the corvette Any possibly we are getting leftover corvette ls3's with the higher horsepower in our 1le's. It was done when the ls1's from the vette was going into the camaros bc the ls2's came out. Or could it be GM has upped the HP on the ls3 & not said anything for whatever reason. Thoughts on this.

05-12-2014, 04:41 AM	#11
WHAMMO Drives: 13' 1LE Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Canada Posts: 2,641	Sorry but OP, you just fell into GM's classic marketing about Vette. Same engine from A to Z. The only diffetence are the electric PS pump and NPP. The drivetrain on the Vette robs less HP too. Thats all. Engine were all the same since day one in Vette and Camaro (97-02). Ls2 came out in 05, with the C6. The LS6 made the difference in hp in 01-02 in fbodies. Of course the Z06 had the LS6 back then. LS6 in f-bodies was more a rumor than anything. The 2010-11' L99 had horrible tunes from factory. They got a lot better in 2013. __________________ 13' 1LE Old setup: TSP 231-236/Tick 660/.105 PR, UDP, SW LT 2'' & HFC, stock NPP & H pipe, VR-DRX CAI, air scoop, Goertz1 manifold, 102mm BBK, 26" Toyo DRs, Forgestars R17x10 & F18x8, rear seat delete, remote Pat G tune Autocal, 7400 limiter, Spec Mini Twin. 91oct. 11.90@122.3, 0-60ft 2.0 / 11.99@123.6, 0-60ft 2.1 DA+819 ...519RWHP SAE Solid roller SBE LS3, FED, LLSR, 91oct, 605rwhp N/A. Tuned by Pat G. Build by me. Last edited by WHAMMO; 05-12-2014 at 06:07 AM. Reason: reread post

05-12-2014, 08:58 AM	#12
PAUL SS The Mark of Excellence Drives: 2010 ABM 1SS RS LS3 Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Smallest State in the Union Posts: 8,690 View My Garage	The 1970 Camaro Z28's had the same LT1 as the Corvette, but 10 less horsepower, 360 vs 370. The exhaust was one reason given, but Chevy (GM) just could not have a Camaro with the same hp as a Corvette. __________________ BMR, CAI, DynoMax, Elite Eng., Hurst, Jannetty, Clear Image Headers & Hi Flow cats, Jet Hot, LSR, TSW, VMax, Vredestein

05-06-2014, 10:52 AM	#2
Ragnar Destroyed by flooding Drives: Wife's car Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Louisiana Posts: 4,673	From what others had reported, with the NPP and electric steering, that is easy 10-12 hp! A little hear and a little there can add up!

05-06-2014, 01:24 PM	#4
Shiftgreen Drives: 2014 2SS 1LE AGM Join Date: May 2013 Location: raleigh Posts: 301	how does electric steering add extra hp to our cars? I want more though haha I'm about to get a CAI and soon a throttle body, hopefully that'll do something.

05-06-2014, 01:44 PM	#5
Spektrum Drives: 2013 2SS 1LE Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Behind you! Posts: 488 View My Garage	A belt driven P/S pump requires more effort to operate than an electric unit, robbing more HP. Think of your A/C when the compressor clutch engages, you can feel it robbing power, the belt driven P/S is the same way except it is always "on".

05-06-2014, 01:52 PM	#6
SS MPSTR Resident Artichoke Drives: 14 1LE, 97 Z28, 07 Z06, 67 Chev SS Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: SoCal Posts: 55	I doubt it. Factory under-rated from day one.

05-10-2014, 06:43 AM	#7
joes407 Drives: 2014 ZL1m6 red hot #569 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: florida Posts: 2,422	By looking at the fast list times id say we did not get an upgraded ls3

05-11-2014, 11:49 AM	#8
J-vette Drives: '14 1le Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Houston Posts: 486	I wasn't talking about the fast list times but the dynos that I've seen. Also the Corvettes got the lt1 now.

05-11-2014, 08:19 PM	#10
TxBandit911 Call Me"Doc" Drives: 2014 2SS/RS 1LE BLACK Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Ft Riley, Kansas Posts: 890	I thought the LS2 came out after the 4th Gens went out of production....I could be wrong tho, its been a while... I know the '01-'02 Fbodies got a LS6 intake and a minor cam/fuel injector adjustment, but that happened all the time thru the years anyway....