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Old 08-04-2009, 05:13 PM   #1
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Smile 2010 Camaro vs 2009 Mustang Race Craft GT

http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.js...ice=&cardist=0

420 hp, 400 ft torque vs 426 hp, 420 ft torque.

35,995 vs 34,000 camaro..so price wise it's close. (manual with leather to be comparable)

Weight and gear ratios would play a large factor in this race, me thinks.
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Old 08-04-2009, 05:48 PM   #2
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Weight and gear ratio has already won. The mustang is nearly 300 pounds lighter. A decent set of tires is all its needs. Not the rubber bands, but a decent 35/40 tire in the back.
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Old 08-05-2009, 12:13 PM   #3
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Unless you are comparing two cars that you intend on buying right now, I'd suggest you compare MSRP's of the cars, in which case that Mustang is $40,995.

Anyway, due to weight it has the advantage. It weighs about 350 lbs less than the Camaro with similar engine specs, something is wrong if it isn't faster.
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Old 08-05-2009, 12:40 PM   #5
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Unless you are comparing two cars that you intend on buying right now, I'd suggest you compare MSRP's of the cars, in which case that Mustang is $40,995.

Anyway, due to weight it has the advantage. It weighs about 350 lbs less than the Camaro with similar engine specs, something is wrong if it isn't faster.
When else would you intend to purchase when comparing the too?
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Old 08-05-2009, 12:41 PM   #6
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thats a pretty good bang for the buck mustang right there.
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Like I said before, there is a dealership that is 4 miles away from my house that has 3 2SS's just sitting on their lot. And this is a very small dealership it's not a high volume dealership in a populated area., Come early summer, when 2011's are coming out, the camaro will be offered for 0%. I guarantee it
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apparently you didn't understand my post correctly. If there are 4 (now 6) camaros sitting at a low volume dealership, just imagine how many are sitting at the high volume dealerships
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thats a pretty good bang for the buck mustang right there.
at the end of 2008 I found this same car "08 models" brand new going for 32-33k.

Very good bang for the buck I thought. Just something about it makes me not want it. I can't put my finger on it.. just something about it. Like maybe it's a "chinese" rip off with Saleen origins... oh wait.. it is.
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please enlighten me, I dont know anything about the car. What part is a chinese rip-off? Does it come with a free case of led poisoning :P ?
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Like I said before, there is a dealership that is 4 miles away from my house that has 3 2SS's just sitting on their lot. And this is a very small dealership it's not a high volume dealership in a populated area., Come early summer, when 2011's are coming out, the camaro will be offered for 0%. I guarantee it
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apparently you didn't understand my post correctly. If there are 4 (now 6) camaros sitting at a low volume dealership, just imagine how many are sitting at the high volume dealerships
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http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.js...ice=&cardist=0

420 hp, 400 ft torque vs 426 hp, 420 ft torque.

35,995 vs 34,000 camaro..so price wise it's close. (manual with leather to be comparable)

Weight and gear ratios would play a large factor in this race, me thinks.
Funny thing is that its a tuner car not directly from ford like that. Isn't that what you argued the other day in the other form about people saying put a HPE 550 package and then see who wins? How ironic that you kept disclaiming that but now put a modded mustang against a stock SS. hmmmmmmm

Anyway I would rather have the Roush mustang, looks ten times better and also has more hp. 435 hp and 410 torque
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Funny thing is that its a tuner car not directly from ford like that. Isn't that what you argued the other day in the other form about people saying put a HPE 550 package and then see who wins? How ironic that you kept disclaiming that but now put a modded mustang against a stock SS. hmmmmmmm

Anyway I would rather have the Roush mustang, looks ten times better and also has more hp. 435 hp and 410 torque
I started this thread on purpose because of that.


To the Chinese comment.

I'm not too sure how informed most are about Steve Saleen. He sold his "Name" company. That company went out of business and another company has snagged it up. This entire 3 year period... Saleen Mustangs have been still hitting showroom floors(if you have noticed an over whelming additions of Saleen mustangs... this is why). This racecraft was them branching away from the saleen name to make their own "cheaper" version of a saleen. Which kind of flopped, and both years I've seen this car made the dealers have to let them go for 34k or less brand new.

This new company that currently owns saleen company is bringing another 2010 Saleen to the table. You will see that it looks much closer to this "racecraft" mustang then the original saleens. And as I'm sure most know, Steve Saleen has started his own "SMS" company. He is also making a SMS460 mustang.... which to me...looks more like a "saleen" mustang then Saleen makes. if that makes sense. It's just ford boy drama.

See below pics... of the SMS And Saleen Mustangs....

http://www.autoblog.com/2009/07/24/w...mance-vehicle/







Then here is SMS's mustang....

http://www.autoblog.com/2009/07/22/s...-of-460-musta/



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Old 08-05-2009, 01:24 PM   #11
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The front of the saleen is a bit busy but that rear has got to go! pretty hideous.
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Old 08-05-2009, 01:55 PM   #12
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some times less is more. on the SMS the front and back are too over done, too many extra lines and slits. looks like something you would see at Hot Import Nights from a cheesy body kit company.

as for the saleen, it looks better than the SMS but i think that brand's looks went downhill fast after the 04 body style...just gimme the performance aspect of these kits and keep the generic styling...

if the op doesn't mind too much, i'd like to throw this mustang into the mix for comparison. it looks way better than either of those turds

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Old 08-05-2009, 03:31 PM   #13
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some times less is more. on the SMS the front and back are too over done, too many extra lines and slits. looks like something you would see at Hot Import Nights from a cheesy body kit company.

as for the saleen, it looks better than the SMS but i think that brand's looks went downhill fast after the 04 body style...just gimme the performance aspect of these kits and keep the generic styling...

if the op doesn't mind too much, i'd like to throw this mustang into the mix for comparison. it looks way better than either of those turds

Good lord, that is sex on wheels!!!!
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Old 08-05-2009, 03:43 PM   #14
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That very nice and way better then the other two.
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Actually.. I'm not a fan of the 2010 Saleen, SM460, or the C-500 from Cervini.

I do like the 2005-09 Saleen Exteme S302E = 620 hp!!!



I like the standard gt and gt500.

And I love the Super Snake.... I'll take mine in red....
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Old 08-06-2009, 12:44 AM   #16
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I had to go to the bathroom after seeing that red super snake.....NICE. One other factor to consider in the SS vs race craft mustang is the power curve due to it being FI it may have less power down low(not saying it does, just that it's possible). I'm sure the stang would win but it may be close.
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It may beat the camaro SS in a straight line, But on a track I think it will be a drivers race. with an advantage to the Camaro just my opinion.
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I had to go to the bathroom after seeing that red super snake.....NICE. One other factor to consider in the SS vs race craft mustang is the power curve due to it being FI it may have less power down low(not saying it does, just that it's possible). I'm sure the stang would win but it may be close.
Actually a twin screw gives you more Tq down low as it is instant boost off the line when you go WOT. Though they do tend to fall off at the higher RPM. Centri's build power after certain RPM's has been reached but keeps building all the way thru the redline.

So the Mustang would have the down low advantage, but this same advantage could make traction a problem.
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wow just when i thought the '10s rear end could not get any worse, SMS shows up with their 460!
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wow just when i thought the '10s rear end could not get any worse, SMS shows up with their 460!
That is the definition of Hideous. I am not sure what he was trying to do there..Gah may I dare say RICER looks ???

DID I JUST SAY THAT ?????

The rear end needs to hit the drawing board again. That double wing thing is just not cutting it.
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wow just when i thought the '10s rear end could not get any worse, SMS shows up with their 460!
So true. I was thinking the same thing.
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Old 08-07-2009, 04:56 PM   #22
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As much as I hate the thought of giving any money to the folks in LasVegas (CS) I have considered the Super Snake upgrade. At 32k for the 725hp version it is not cheap by any means.

Not sure about the comparison of the Camaro to the tuner car mentioned here. I think the Camaro performs well and is a very strong contender in its price range for sure. Just boils down to your preference. I have said before if everyone bought the most bang for the buck car out there, everyone would be driving a C6 Z06. I almost bought a new 08' instead of my 2nd GT500. Could not bring myself to write a check for $73k. Awesome car though. Not to mention the standard C6 with the LS3 is definitely a strong running car. Once I saw the Z06 I could not settle for a "regular" vette if there is such a thing. The new Grand Sport may be the option to get.
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