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Old 05-12-2014, 11:43 PM   #26
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what city are you in? you better check your insurance rates for the different models. depending on your city, plan to pay at least $2-3k/year to insure an SS. it might be better to put in your mom's name and have it insured under her???? just an idea.

my insurance for my SS in NJ with State Farm (0 accidents in 20 years, 40+ years old, seasonal vehicle) was almost $2k/year (but we have the highest insurance). I switched to NJ Manufacturers for $1350/year.
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I'd pick the 2014 1SS. I'm 18 and just ordered a 2015 1SS 1LE with Recaros and NPP. See if you can find one with the 1LE package, it's well worth the $3.5K price tag.
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Old 05-13-2014, 11:51 AM   #28
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what city are you in? you better check your insurance rates for the different models. depending on your city, plan to pay at least $2-3k/year to insure an SS. it might be better to put in your mom's name and have it insured under her???? just an idea.

my insurance for my SS in NJ with State Farm (0 accidents in 20 years, 40+ years old, seasonal vehicle) was almost $2k/year (but we have the highest insurance). I switched to NJ Manufacturers for $1350/year.
I figured it would be around that price. I'm near the Wayne/Hawthorne area, and we're already paying about $2k/year especially cause you can't count how many accidents my mother and step-dad got into if you had 3 hands. :/
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Hi guys, I'm AJ, 17 years old and I'm relatively new to these forums, been reading threads and posts for a while, but made an account today when i realized i can actually afford to get one. But, I am torn between three options. I want a V8 camaro, or a v6 with a convertible, but a V8 with a convertible is certainly out of the question, seeing as i will be paying car payments+gas whilst my mother pays for the insurance. So i have 3 options, lets call them A, B, and C.

Option A:2014 V6 1LT Convertible for $32,050 msrp

Option B:2014 V8 1SS for $34,350 msrp(only if i can catch a bargain with a dealer, maybe drop that price a bit)

Lastly,
Option C:2010 V8 2SS preowned for maybe $25,000

I am honestly torn and don't know what to go with. I wouldn't have a problem financing the vehicles as i have a steady job, and have made the necessary calculations, and have already saved up about $10,000. So what I am asking is, if you were in my shoes, which option would you choose?

Thanks In Advance,
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Old 05-19-2014, 10:53 PM   #30
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I'm 19, making $13.50/hour and I easily pay financing on my 14' 2LT (250/Month) and my mac book pro ($20 a week). Easily I would go with the 2010 or 11 2SS already loaded over the 1SS. I wish I had done research to do the older and finance. Easy to mod and more mods out for them. I love the ZL1 front transformation that is possible for 10-13 which is not available for my 14 :(
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Old 05-19-2014, 11:26 PM   #31
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Get a V8. Don't **** it up. Be good to your parents, pay them back (FYI, you can't get credit to finance a car at 17 years old) and don't get in trouble with the law. Don't lose sight of bigger/better goals trying to pay for a car. Life is short and cars come and they go. There will always be another car.

If you end up buying one, did I mention to have fun? -and be nice.

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Old 05-19-2014, 11:36 PM   #32
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I'm 18 now but I was in your exact situation one year ago. I'm not trying to talk down to you but here's how I handled my situation and I'm extremely pleased with the outcome.

I've also wanted a Camaro since I could remember but I wasn't able to get one until May 2013. Like yourself, I'd had a substantial amount of money saved up in July 2012 and I wanted to go buy a brand new Camaro and I figured I could pay the monthly payments on the rest of it. I then quickly realized what a stupid decision that would be.

First: Brand new cars depreciate the second they leave the lot. That means that they instantly lose a good chunk of money, meaning several thousand dollars, because the car is now classified as "used." So don't buy a new car at all, especially at your age. It's dumb and it isn't worth it. I went and bought a reliable used one instead. It even smelled like a new car and I saved several thousand dollars.

Second: I wanted a V8 really badly but I decided to go with the V6. My insurance rates are darn high right now because I'm classified as a newer driver and my Camaro falls under a high performance vehicle category. However, my rates would have been much higher had I gotten a V8, and they would have skyrocketed if V8 had been brand new. It's your car and your money, but a V8 didn't make much sense to me except for showing off to my friends.

Third: (Here's the part you're going to hate) Wait until you have all of the money saved up. Yes, that means saving another $10K - $20K, which sucks because you're already set on buying a car (I was in the same mindset back in July of 2012). Trust me, this is well worth it. If you decide to put $10K down right now and pay monthly, you're screwing yourself over for the future. You're charged interest every month you pay your monthly fee, and so over time, you're going to not only have to pay for the whole car eventually, but also all of the interest that has accumulated. In short, you're going to pay a TON more for your car because you chose to pay for it monthly. Why would anybody in their right mind want to pay more for something that isn't worth more? You're going to end up paying a few thousand dollars extra in interest fees for sure. That's how jacked up the system is. If you don't use the monthly payment system and instead pay it off all at once, you've just saved yourself a couple thousand dollars that you can put towards mods.

In short, this whole discussion comes down to immediacy vs. practicality. If you decide to buy a car right now, you'll have your car right now (which is awesome), but you'll also overpay for it because of the interest rates and you'll be in deep trouble if for some reason you can't start making the payments. Practicality calls for saving up all of the money in advance and then finding a gently used vehicle for much cheaper. This is what I ended up doing and I'm so glad I did that. Yes, I did have to wait about a year longer to get my dream car, and it would kill me to see other people driving Camaro's out on the road while I was puttin' around in a Ford Escape. But now I have my own car that I payed for entirely by myself and I don't have to deal with monthly payments. That in itself is worth it.

Sorry this has been so long but I don't want you to do something that could financially screw you over. Remember that I was in your exact position a year ago and I ended up choosing practicality and I'm SOOO glad I did. It's common sense really: don't buy something you don't have the money for. In this case, you don't have the money for a car because you only have $10K right now. I didn't have enough money for a car back in July 2012, so I couldn't buy one. You can say, "Well, I plan on paying the payment every month." Well, life happens, and the last thing you want is to have to give that precious car up that you worked so hard for. Now you're out your hard-earned $10,000 and still owe more money. That's what happened to guy who owned my car before me; he couldn't make the payments, and they took it back.

If I were you, I'd save up enough money to go buy a reliable used Camaro in cash. But that's completely up to you.
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Old 05-19-2014, 11:54 PM   #33
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10k is hard to come by. Really the only reason you have that is your parents are paying your way. Tbh I'd invest that money in some schooling. Get yourself a nursing degree or something along those lines. When you knock that out you'll walk into the dealership and tell them exactly what options you want. Dropping 10k on your first camaro is beyond stupid at your age. You'll live to regret the decision but the thing about youth is you'll be too hard headed to listen to an old guy that's been there and done that. Heck I'm 33 and drive an oilfield tanker truck making good money and I still haven't pulled the trigger on a camaro yet. And I'm already into my second home (moved up from starter home).
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Old 05-20-2014, 12:03 AM   #34
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I'd pick the 2014 1SS. I'm 18 and just ordered a 2015 1SS 1LE with Recaros and NPP. See if you can find one with the 1LE package, it's well worth the $3.5K price tag.
wth the 15's havent even come out yet...not even online Nice try though!
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Not on your list, but I would suggest you get a nice used Honda Civic. Cheap insurance. Cheap on gas. Cheap on maintenance. It will allow you to save up cash for a few years and get exactly what you want without taking on a big note. You're 17... don't be in such a rush to get yourself deep in debt.
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Old 05-20-2014, 05:24 AM   #36
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i'd look into getting a lower mileage 2010-2013 2SS. i was looking about a month ago, and i'd have had to drive to miami, but they had a new '13 2SS for 34k with 0% financing. i'd have done that if i didn't get a steal on my '14.
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Old 05-20-2014, 05:26 AM   #37
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Hi guys, I'm AJ, 17 years old and I'm relatively new to these forums, been reading threads and posts for a while, but made an account today when i realized i can actually afford to get one. But, I am torn between three options. I want a V8 camaro, or a v6 with a convertible, but a V8 with a convertible is certainly out of the question, seeing as i will be paying car payments+gas whilst my mother pays for the insurance. So i have 3 options, lets call them A, B, and C.

Option A:2014 V6 1LT Convertible for $32,050 msrp

Option B:2014 V8 1SS for $34,350 msrp(only if i can catch a bargain with a dealer, maybe drop that price a bit)

Lastly,
Option C:2010 V8 2SS preowned for maybe $25,000

I am honestly torn and don't know what to go with. I wouldn't have a problem financing the vehicles as i have a steady job, and have made the necessary calculations, and have already saved up about $10,000. So what I am asking is, if you were in my shoes, which option would you choose?

Thanks In Advance,
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At the end of the day, which one would make you the happiest? What options do you want, and which one meets those requirements?

I personally would recommend new, rather than someone else's car as you don't know how they treated it, cared for it, etc. But only if you can afford it!!
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i commend you for being able to save like that. there are many "adults" that dont even have a pot to piss in because they cant hold onto a penny. in the long run you need to do with what you feel comfortable with. however just keep in mind that the insurance could be close to 300 a mo for that car. when i was your age i had a 4 year old s-10 with a 4cylinder in it and was paying close to 200/mo.

also when you do go to college are you going to want to leave an ss outside all day in a parking lot?

would you consider a 1ls or a 2ls? either of those you can get for 20-22k new
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Old 05-20-2014, 06:24 AM   #39
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Not on your list, but I would suggest you get a nice used Honda Civic. Cheap insurance. Cheap on gas. Cheap on maintenance. It will allow you to save up cash for a few years and get exactly what you want without taking on a big note. You're 17... don't be in such a rush to get yourself deep in debt.
Exactly...but he's 17 with "The Wants". Attempting to teach him how to make sound financial decisions is like attempting to teach an orangutan AP Calculus. We've all been 17 before.
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Old 05-20-2014, 10:23 AM   #40
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One way to make a new v8 more affordable might be to order exactly he car you want, without options that you don't care about.

Most SS cars I have seen at dealers are absolutely loaded. Maybe you can do without leather seats, the RS package, sun roof, ground effects, etc. Makes quite a difference in the price.

In my case, I just had to have the leather seats, but passed on RS, sunroof, and anything else. (There was no dual mode exhaust in 2010.) My car was at least $4,000 less than cars typically in stock.
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I'm 18 now but I was in your exact situation one year ago. I'm not trying to talk down to you but here's how I handled my situation and I'm extremely pleased with the outcome.

I've also wanted a Camaro since I could remember but I wasn't able to get one until May 2013. Like yourself, I'd had a substantial amount of money saved up in July 2012 and I wanted to go buy a brand new Camaro and I figured I could pay the monthly payments on the rest of it. I then quickly realized what a stupid decision that would be.

First: Brand new cars depreciate the second they leave the lot. That means that they instantly lose a good chunk of money, meaning several thousand dollars, because the car is now classified as "used." So don't buy a new car at all, especially at your age. It's dumb and it isn't worth it. I went and bought a reliable used one instead. It even smelled like a new car and I saved several thousand dollars.

Second: I wanted a V8 really badly but I decided to go with the V6. My insurance rates are darn high right now because I'm classified as a newer driver and my Camaro falls under a high performance vehicle category. However, my rates would have been much higher had I gotten a V8, and they would have skyrocketed if V8 had been brand new. It's your car and your money, but a V8 didn't make much sense to me except for showing off to my friends.

Third: (Here's the part you're going to hate) Wait until you have all of the money saved up. Yes, that means saving another $10K - $20K, which sucks because you're already set on buying a car (I was in the same mindset back in July of 2012). Trust me, this is well worth it. If you decide to put $10K down right now and pay monthly, you're screwing yourself over for the future. You're charged interest every month you pay your monthly fee, and so over time, you're going to not only have to pay for the whole car eventually, but also all of the interest that has accumulated. In short, you're going to pay a TON more for your car because you chose to pay for it monthly. Why would anybody in their right mind want to pay more for something that isn't worth more? You're going to end up paying a few thousand dollars extra in interest fees for sure. That's how jacked up the system is. If you don't use the monthly payment system and instead pay it off all at once, you've just saved yourself a couple thousand dollars that you can put towards mods.

In short, this whole discussion comes down to immediacy vs. practicality. If you decide to buy a car right now, you'll have your car right now (which is awesome), but you'll also overpay for it because of the interest rates and you'll be in deep trouble if for some reason you can't start making the payments. Practicality calls for saving up all of the money in advance and then finding a gently used vehicle for much cheaper. This is what I ended up doing and I'm so glad I did that. Yes, I did have to wait about a year longer to get my dream car, and it would kill me to see other people driving Camaro's out on the road while I was puttin' around in a Ford Escape. But now I have my own car that I payed for entirely by myself and I don't have to deal with monthly payments. That in itself is worth it.

Sorry this has been so long but I don't want you to do something that could financially screw you over. Remember that I was in your exact position a year ago and I ended up choosing practicality and I'm SOOO glad I did. It's common sense really: don't buy something you don't have the money for. In this case, you don't have the money for a car because you only have $10K right now. I didn't have enough money for a car back in July 2012, so I couldn't buy one. You can say, "Well, I plan on paying the payment every month." Well, life happens, and the last thing you want is to have to give that precious car up that you worked so hard for. Now you're out your hard-earned $10,000 and still owe more money. That's what happened to guy who owned my car before me; he couldn't make the payments, and they took it back.

If I were you, I'd save up enough money to go buy a reliable used Camaro in cash. But that's completely up to you.
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Old 05-20-2014, 10:54 AM   #42
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as long as the miles are low on the 2010SS, its certified by GM and the dealership has some service records for it I would go with the 2010
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Old 05-20-2014, 10:56 AM   #43
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Well I will put my 2¢ in here on the Vert option......
I started with a hardtop 1LT, loved it, drove the crap out of it, now its a toy and I wanted to upgrade.
I never had a convertible, ya I always wanted one, many folks warned me about getting one.......leaks all the time, someone can get into the car with just a knife, they are noisy, they are tempermental and unreliable, you will never use it where you live, etc...
Then I finally realized that folks will try to dissuade you from anything, especially if it's something THEY cannot have or afford.
I finally got into the mindset that Hey! its gonna be my car, I'm getting what I want, so I finally just broke down and put the word out that I was looking to get a Vert.
Now that I have one I am pleased with that decision, the convertible adds a whole new dimension to the car.
I still went with the V6 (but I wont get into that here.....thats been covered in thousands of other threads) I figured I am basically going for looks over power, ya its nice to have that V8 but I figured......Who am I gonna be racing? I just love throwing down the top and enjoying the drive.....thats who I am......
If you are thinking of the vert, then I say go for it, you wont regret it. But I suggest you get a 13 or newer, they seem to have most of the bugs worked out of the top now
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Old 05-20-2014, 08:23 PM   #44
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Many thanks go out to the people who have helped me come to a decision. I'll be going with a 2014 1SS, and ill be purchasing it in full around this time next year(hopefully). This way, i only have insurance to worry about
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