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Old 08-05-2009, 05:14 PM   #1
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GM tune?

I keep reading about warranty issues after a tune is done. Does anyone think that GM will make their own tune? You buy the tune from your dealer just like a GMPP part and they can up the shift points, A/F ratio and all that good stuff, just maybe not to the extreme of aftermarket tunes. Am I just dreaming?
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Probably won't...would be nice though
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Old 08-05-2009, 05:19 PM   #3
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IF THEY DO IT WILL BE LIKE THE MUFFLERS THEY WILL SAY IT VOIDS UR WAR. ON THAT PART OR WHAT EVER PART IT WORKS WITH
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Dream on man.

Wouldn't be a tune I'd want.
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Old 08-05-2009, 06:03 PM   #5
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Ford offers it.

'twould be nice if GM did.

They offer it for the Solstice GXP and the Sky Redline, IIRC, as part of a package that I hear worked REALLY nice.
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Ford offers it.

'twould be nice if GM did.

They offer it for the Solstice GXP and the Sky Redline, IIRC, as part of a package that I hear worked REALLY nice.
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Apparently it's working well for them but GM is better than that.
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Old 08-05-2009, 07:35 PM   #7
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I would argue that my fiance's 09 GT runs plenty fast without it. It's a nice bit of kit, any way you slice it.

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when they see all the money they are losing with all these aftermarket parts .i think they might . i said might . years ago everybody that bought a escalade,hummer put on bigger rims ,dvds,remote starts and so on . and gm said wait a minute we could do that and make all that money to .so it might be possible. if gm did the tune and offered more power without voiding our warranty i bet half of us will be going to the dealer tomorrow .
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when they see all the money they are losing with all these aftermarket parts .i think they might . i said might . years ago everybody that bought a escalade,hummer put on bigger rims ,dvds,remote starts and so on . and gm said wait a minute we could do that and make all that money to .so it might be possible. if gm did the tune and offered more power without voiding our warranty i bet half of us will be going to the dealer tomorrow .
I guess I'd have no choice.
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Old 08-05-2009, 09:21 PM   #11
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Attachment 43461 Seriously?

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Apparently it's working well for them but GM is better than that.
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Attachment 43461 Seriously?

So they sell cars that are supposed to be fast, then you have to buy 'fast' at an extra charge?

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Apparently it's working well for them but GM is better than that.
I would think it's only right for FRPP to provide customers with a tune for parts like headers, CAI, and superchargers/supercharger upgrades.

Isn't GM releasing a CAI?
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I would think it's only right for FRPP to provide customers with a tune for parts like headers, CAI, and superchargers/supercharger upgrades.

Isn't GM releasing a CAI?
this makes sense. GM has aftermarket items as is. So they should offer a tune for the Shorty header, CAI, and Exhaust kit.
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This would possibly make car companies detune the cars for stock. Like airlines starting to charge for luggage and peanuts.

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Isn't GM releasing a CAI?
Yes, but from what I understand it gibes you no more power. Might help us down here in the south a little better.
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Seriously think about it. The performance products that GM has in place now warrant a aftermarket style tune. It would make sense for them to offer a Tune so you can maintain your warranty yet take advantage of thier performance parts. Granted it will not make as much HP/TQ but would provide a serious boost from the stock numbers with their parts. It is a no brainer. I hope my feeling is right
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If GM offered a tune for the GMPP headers/CAI/exhaust package, it would certainly be a great upgrade. They have the resources to accurately develop tune modifications for the LS3/L99 and they know what works, it's a great idea!
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Yep. Just for the record the ford tune (and for that matter, the Sky/Solstice tune) are all attached to upgraded parts as part of a package.

The 'starter' kit for the mustang is a CAI, exhaust*, and tune for about $1000, and I'm told it's a great little investment for people who want a bit more oomph without voiding the warranty. *exhaust might be something else, I'm always forgetting.

It's not a tune sold alone.

In the case of the Solstice GXP/Sky Redline, it's a turbo upgrade and tune, that IIRC makes somewhere in the neighborhood of +50 hp. Again IIRC, I remember hearing it's one of the best investments you can make if you own one of those.
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This would possibly make car companies detune the cars for stock. Like airlines starting to charge for luggage and peanuts.

Yes, but from what I understand it gibes you no more power. Might help us down here in the south a little better.
The CAI isn't going to give you any power because the computer will correct for it without a tune. A tune would help optimize that particular upgrade.
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Old 08-06-2009, 10:34 AM   #19
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um...but if the computer corrects for it (i.e. correcting the fuel units to match the newer and hopefully more plentiful air units) than you SHOULD get a slight power add from it regardless.

If this mod doesn't give any HP increase...its because it doesn't increase any of the air intake.

However the ECU can only adjust so much. An aftermarket tune gives you the most you can get safely from "x" modifications.
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This would possibly make car companies detune the cars for stock. Like airlines starting to charge for luggage and peanuts.

Yes, but from what I understand it gibes you no more power. Might help us down here in the south a little better.

I know that on the old Cobalt SS's with the superchargers, there were different packages you could get added on at the dealer. Stage 1 and Stage 2. They had things like CAI and exhaust, also a pulley change and a tune.

It wasn't to do with de-tuning from the factory, it had to do with meeting certain emissions and mileage stuff up until it was delivered, then what you did to it after didn't effect their numbers. But it was still with parts they approved, so you wouldn't be screwed if your car blew up.

They were almost like modern day COPOs, and I don't see why a similar performance package can't and/or won't be offered for this car in the near future. It might be something to look for in the future.
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The CAI isn't going to give you any power because the computer will correct for it without a tune. A tune would help optimize that particular upgrade.
Huh? Do you mean CAI's in general dont give you any power unless you get a tune? Or are you talking about the GM CAI?
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Huh? Do you mean CAI's in general dont give you any power unless you get a tune? Or are you talking about the GM CAI?
I was just trying to adress irpq11's statement that "the GM CAI gives you no more power."

There might be some gains, but I think after the ECU makes all the corrections for the GM CAI the gains could be minimal.
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I was just trying to adress irpq11's statement that "the GM CAI gives you no more power."

There might be some gains, but I think after the ECU makes all the corrections for the GM CAI the gains could be minimal.

any CAI should/will give you slight gains of around 10hp untuned. with a tune, it will be higher, but thats the story for EVERY CAI, not just the GMPP
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The only tune GM will possibly be offerring (in the short term) for the Camaro will be an update for the poor performing/sluggish L99s.
This tune will be designed to bring these L99's up to "normal" stock level
(not to provide additional HP/TQ to L99's running fine).
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I know that on the old Cobalt SS's with the superchargers, there were different packages you could get added on at the dealer. Stage 1 and Stage 2. They had things like CAI and exhaust, also a pulley change and a tune.

It wasn't to do with de-tuning from the factory, it had to do with meeting certain emissions and mileage stuff up until it was delivered, then what you did to it after didn't effect their numbers. But it was still with parts they approved, so you wouldn't be screwed if your car blew up.

They were almost like modern day COPOs, and I don't see why a similar performance package can't and/or won't be offered for this car in the near future. It might be something to look for in the future.


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The only tune GM will possibly be offerring (in the short term) for the Camaro will be an update for the poor performing/sluggish L99s.
This tune will be designed to bring these L99's up to "normal" stock level
(not to provide additional HP/TQ to L99's running fine).
I don't think it's gonna be easy for them to decide whitch ones are or aren't running 'fine'

Problem is that some people will claim theirs isn't just to get a possible tune to make theirs even faster.

It's gonna be VERY interesting to see what they do.
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