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Old 08-06-2009, 12:29 AM   #1
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Roll back feature

Who thinks the camaro should have this? I think this would be great to have. I'm pretty sure the challenger has this. Does anyone know if a tune can get this implemented??? Or what is all entaled in this feature???
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Old 08-06-2009, 12:39 AM   #2
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Old 08-06-2009, 12:58 AM   #3
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Rolling back the car to the factory tuning in the computer?
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Old 08-06-2009, 06:31 AM   #4
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Old 08-06-2009, 06:54 AM   #6
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You wanna roll back the odometer?
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Old 08-06-2009, 06:56 AM   #7
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Is that to keep manual transmission cars from rolling back on hills?
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Old 08-06-2009, 07:05 AM   #8
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Like WalMart - Roll back prices???

Guess it is too late for that...:(
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Old 08-06-2009, 07:11 AM   #9
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The manual transmission Challengers have Hill-Start-Assist, it holds the brakes for a moment as you let out the clutch on a hill.
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Old 08-06-2009, 07:22 AM   #10
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Or...you could just stop being a puss and learn how to drive a manual.

If you don't know how then you shouldn't have one.
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Old 08-06-2009, 07:25 AM   #11
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Old 08-06-2009, 07:31 AM   #12
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Or...you could just stop being a puss and learn how to drive a manual.

If you don't know how then you shouldn't have one.
Or... you could quit being a complete ass?

I'm sure we all woke up one day knowing how to drive a manual and not rollin' it back on someone. Some people are jerks out there and pull right up on your butt on a hill.

If I see someone rockin back and forth on a hill, I know to keep my distance. Do I call them a "puss" and flip em off as I pass them? No.
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Old 08-06-2009, 07:51 AM   #13
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Or... you could quit being a complete ass?

I'm sure we all woke up one day knowing how to drive a manual and not rollin' it back on someone. Some people are jerks out there and pull right up on your butt on a hill.

If I see someone rockin back and forth on a hill, I know to keep my distance. Do I call them a "puss" and flip em off as I pass them? No.
Im not being an ass, just stating my opinion. If you cant drive a stick without rolling back on a hill then you should not own one until you learn.

Yes people get on your ass, you have to learn how to hold the car with the clutch. And if youre REALLY nervous, a quick E-brake use should do the trick. No need to have some factory installed assist.
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Old 08-06-2009, 08:24 AM   #14
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The manual transmission Challengers have Hill-Start-Assist, it holds the brakes for a moment as you let out the clutch on a hill.
BMW had it .. was great .. I've been driving stick for years so not needed, however, I did enjoy it when I had it

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Old 08-06-2009, 08:28 AM   #15
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Im not being an ass, just stating my opinion. If you cant drive a stick without rolling back on a hill then you should not own one until you learn.

Yes people get on your ass, you have to learn how to hold the car with the clutch. And if youre REALLY nervous, a quick E-brake use should do the trick. No need to have some factory installed assist.

Ouch, could be a little less harsh.
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Old 08-06-2009, 08:33 AM   #16
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I'm sure we all woke up one day knowing how to drive a manual and not rollin' it back on someone. Some people are jerks out there and pull right up on your butt on a hill.
Actually, that's exactly how it happened to me. One day my dad mandated that I learn how to drive a manual. I knew how to get to first and second gear in my sister's car but I'd never really driven it on the roads. So my dad has me drive the car to the bottom of the steepest hill we could find. He tells me to drive up it about 100 feet then stop, and go. After trying to start off in 3rd gear completely disengaging the clutch and still rolling backwards with the engine at 3000 rpm. I quickly learned that something was wrong, especially after the engine bay started smoking. I kid you not, this was a brand new car btw.

Anyway after a wonderful stream of swear words and figuring out that I was in 3rd gear, I tried again and got it. The next day, I woke up and knew exactly how to start up a hill w/o rolling back. I also used no e-brake, but that sure would've helped. The car I was using had one of those annoying pedal e-brakes that are hard to disengage while driving.

But people claim you can use the e-brake on hills then disengage the brake once you are at the friction point, but I've never tried it. That's what they teach Europeans in driver's ed at least.
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Old 08-06-2009, 08:39 AM   #17
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e-brake trick works the best. If you can't learn these basic driving skills then I agree, don't drive stick. What happens when the computer you're relying on fails and you need to do it yourself? This is almost as bad as the computer operated parallel park that some cars have now. The commercials portray the guy "hey... look at me... I have this cool feature on my car" But I just see some wuss that doesn't know how to drive.
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Old 08-06-2009, 08:44 AM   #18
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besides its just one more computer controlled electronic feature to break down somday that probably would cost alot of money to fix........also what happened to the good old days when there wasnt such a thing as an automatic transmission?
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Old 08-06-2009, 08:50 AM   #19
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You can always heel - toe it and slip the clutch, that's what I always did...
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Old 08-06-2009, 09:03 AM   #20
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Or...you could just stop being a puss and learn how to drive a manual.

If you don't know how then you shouldn't have one.


Although a tad bit harsh I have to agree with the basic message. I can hold my cvic on a hill with no brake until my leg falls asleep, i'm sure the camaro will be different but won't take me long to get use to it. A seasoned manual driver shouldn't be worried about hiills. If you are nervous at first plan your daily driving around missing them, take different routes until your more comfortable.
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Old 08-06-2009, 09:05 AM   #21
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I think they did that on the 3790z where the car holds the brakes for you a tad bit so you don't roll back, I think it takes away from the manual transmission experience.
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Old 08-06-2009, 10:15 AM   #22
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I'm surprised at all the negative comments here. Give the guy a break. Man if there was this kind of reaction to every technology that came along there would be no progress.

Or...you should figure out how to get somewhere before you leave your house. Well, I guess there's no need for the nav units everyone wants so badly in this car. God intolerance is aggravating.
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Old 08-06-2009, 10:18 AM   #23
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I say if you can't drive a manual on a hill, get the A6. GM doesn't need to charge M6 people more money for another electronic nanny. ( and we all know that Hill Assist would add a couple bucks to the sticker)

If you want to learn how to drive a manual before you get your Camaro, rent a cheap car from AVIS or Budget or whatever and stop/start on hills to your heart's content. Just make sure you give it some time before you take it back to let the burnt clutch smell air out.

And as far as Nav, I personally don't see a need to pay for something that Googlemaps does for free.
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Old 08-06-2009, 10:19 AM   #24
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I agree with most, if you can't do it, buy an automatic. What are you gnna do if you end up in a stick car that doesn't have this feature or it craps out? Its so simple its second nature (just like driving the car), my first time on a hill I used the ebrake, I figured it out on the second hill and have never looked back.
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Old 08-06-2009, 10:27 AM   #25
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I wouldn't need it for hills, but line lock would be nice to toast up the tires without rolling forward.
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