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Old 12-12-2009, 11:23 AM   #1
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GM Year Production Cycles?

Hey guys just wondering... when does the 2011 Camaro come out? I'm a little confused about how GM does their year models. Any word on what'll change? I remember something about an HUD speedometer... Any chance they'll make the trunk opening bigger? That's been the key factor stopping me from buying one right this moment.
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2011 MY should begin the Fall of 2010 like the other models. GM has been quiet on the HUD but it could be a 2011 addition. The trunk opening is not going to change for at least 5 yrs. It would require extensive redeign and completely change the appearance of the car.
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Thanks for the info. Too bad about the trunk opening. The odd day I need to pick someone up from the airport, I'd need a second car :(
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Thanks for the info. Too bad about the trunk opening. The odd day I need to pick someone up from the airport, I'd need a second car :(
Not sure what you mean. I've packed the trunk with 2 sets of golf clubs and all our luggage for (in one case) the two week trip to California.

The opening is smaller, but the trunk is actually huge.

The only problem is if you are picking someone up that has some ginormous hard side suit case.
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Old 12-12-2009, 11:51 AM   #5
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Would 2 of these fit in the trunk?

http://shop.samsonite.com/Samsonite-...vailability=-1

I guess it's just a sacrifice I have to make moving over from a Civic; that and actually having to buy snow tires, paying much more for a replacement tire if needed, and being even more paranoid about my car =P
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I think so, but it would be full. The trunk area is pretty large, just not deep. The back seat folds down and of course the rear seat many times is cargo space for us. The trunk is completely flat with the fuel tank & spare (air pump) all underneath.

However, Chevy will never sell a one of these to a taxi fleet.
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Hey guys just wondering... when does the 2011 Camaro come out? I'm a little confused about how GM does their year models. Any word on what'll change? I remember something about an HUD speedometer... Any chance they'll make the trunk opening bigger? That's been the key factor stopping me from buying one right this moment.
Well the normal model changeover occurs in the fall, but with all manufacturers anymore they could happen any time during the year, depends on what they want to do.. I really doubt the trunk opening will change any until the next complete redesign for the Gen 6 Camaro... and who know how long that will be...
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^^So the release date of the 2011 Camaro is still up in the air? I really want a 2011 but I don't want to wait until the Fall of 2010.
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^^So the release date of the 2011 Camaro is still up in the air? I really want a 2011 but I don't want to wait until the Fall of 2010.
I would say sometime this fall.. best guess... but you will be able to order one sooner.. probably July or August...
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I would say sometime this fall.. best guess... but you will be able to order one sooner.. probably July or August...
I want to be driving it in July or August though. :(
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Brand new models seem to be introduced somewhat early in the year with spring being the most common in my opinion. But year to year updates and revisions, like the 2011 Camaro, tend to go into production in mid/late summer and arrive at dealerships late summer/early fall.

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I want to be driving it in July or August though. :(
You might be able to get one of the first ones in August. I wouldn't count on it though.
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I want to be driving it in July or August though. :(
Then plan on buying a 2010, because 2011s won't hit dealers till mid-late sept the earliest. This is no change from any other GM vehicle and GM never said anything different.
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Would 2 of these fit in the trunk?

http://shop.samsonite.com/Samsonite-...vailability=-1

I guess it's just a sacrifice I have to make moving over from a Civic; that and actually having to buy snow tires, paying much more for a replacement tire if needed, and being even more paranoid about my car =P
It would take some maneuvering but those would fit. It also has a seat pass thru, you could go through the back seat to get those in too....
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You might be able to get one of the first ones in August. I wouldn't count on it though.
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Then plan on buying a 2010, because 2011s won't hit dealers till mid-late sept the earliest. This is no change from any other GM vehicle and GM never said anything different.
The Camaro was released earlier this year whats the deal with the long model year? By time the 2011's come out the 2010 model year will have lasted a year and a half.
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The trunk is big enough to fit a body. No problem getting someone in there that's still alive in from the airport
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The Camaro was released earlier this year whats the deal with the long model year? By time the 2011's come out the 2010 model year will have lasted a year and a half.
The plan was always to have a long initial model year, otherwise if they did 2009 it would be a short year with only 6 months of production. It didn't make sense and would have been confusing to the public.
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The plan was always to have a long initial model year, otherwise if they did 2009 it would be a short year with only 6 months of production. It didn't make sense and would have been confusing to the public.
it has been that way with many of the new vehicles GM has come out with lately... The Sky came out in March 2006 as a 2007 model for one of them.. I think the Equinox redesign came out mid year and even the Malibu redesign did...
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The trunk is big enough to fit a body. No problem getting someone in there that's still alive in from the airport
A buddy owns a 2LT and I argued that the trunk was so small even a small person couldn't fit inside (He's 5'4"). He promptly popped the trunk and climbed in, looked up and said, "See! You're an idiot!" At which point, obviously, I said "Watch yer head!" and closed the trunk. BWAHAHAHA... Honestly, I can't believe he didn't see that one coming. I've got a picture of him getting out, all sheepish looking. If I can find it, I'll post it.
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The plan was always to have a long initial model year, otherwise if they did 2009 it would be a short year with only 6 months of production. It didn't make sense and would have been confusing to the public.
Thanks for clearing that up. I am only waiting because I really want the HUD that is supposed to be offered in the 2011's. It's such a cool feature.
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The Camaro was released earlier this year whats the deal with the long model year? By time the 2011's come out the 2010 model year will have lasted a year and a half.
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Couldn't do that unless it was released in 2008. Model year must be greater than calender year at introduction. The other alternative would have been to just sit around and wait 3-6 months and start building the Camaro in the summer of 2009 ... maybe not.

Anyway, I'd say they start brand new models early for two main reasons: resale value and production ramp up. I think Fbodfather himself has said resale value is a part of it. And production ramp up, well thats just my own speculation. If it takes a couple months to go from 200 units a day to 500 (or what ever the case may be) then they'd need to add more time to compensate.
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Couldn't do that unless it was released in 2008. Model year must be greater than calender year at introduction. The other alternative would have been to just sit around and wait 3-6 months and start building the Camaro in the summer of 2009 ... maybe not.

Anyway, I'd say they start brand new models early for two main reasons: resale value and production ramp up. I think Fbodfather himself has said resale value is a part of it. And production ramp up, well thats just my own speculation. If it takes a couple months to go from 200 units a day to 500 (or what ever the case may be) then they'd need to add more time to compensate.
Very interesting facts, thanks for providing them DG.
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Model Years are introduced October.
IE, 2011 will be ready to roll by Late Sept, Early October. Figure production starts for those models around August....
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As much as I want to get this now, I have to have the height adjustable passenger seat which I heard the 2011 will have. No point having a hot car IMO if the wifey can't enjoy it too.
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As much as I want to get this now, I have to have the height adjustable passenger seat which I heard the 2011 will have. No point having a hot car IMO if the wifey can't enjoy it too.
Who says she cant enjoy it now? Get her to sit on a pillow, cushion, or phone book.

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