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Old 08-07-2009, 01:15 AM   #26
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Awesome! This is going to earn the little V6 LLT some well deserved , and we'll get to find the limits (if they even reach them) of this little engine.

Here here for the LLT becoming the next engine to be touched by the hand of god (GNX )
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Old 08-07-2009, 01:22 AM   #27
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I think its hilarious...the camaro is going to have zero problem laying down the hp's from that V6 to match the skyline, the problem is going to be weight.

Maybe some carbon fiber parts(better chose a black LS) and some lighter rims would help out. I'm sure handling will be a lot easier to fix once some of the excess weight is taken off.
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Old 08-07-2009, 02:04 AM   #28
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Old 08-07-2009, 06:23 AM   #29
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And how much money is this costing?

There's a point where you spend so much money that it just makes no sense. I could attach million dollar shuttle rockets to a Toyota Camry, but it doesn't make it awesome. Any car can be made fast...for this project to be worth it the cost of doing this needs to be feasible for regular people to transform their V6's.
Exactly.

This car...from delivery at dealer...until it beats the GT-R doesn't mean anything if it doesn't come in at under $80K (estimated GT-R cost).

It's the same argument we use about the Mustang GT500... "Yeah it's faster but it costs $15K more!" If you can't make a Camaro faster than a GT500 with $15K...then the GT500 wins. (which shouldn't be a problem LOL)

(BTW, they basically have $57,000 to make it faster than the GTR...so it's not chump-change they're working with.)
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Old 08-07-2009, 08:08 AM   #30
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No one said that they're positively going to reproduce the same kit and setup in mass quantities for profit. Even if this ends up being a one-off car, the publicity and enhanced reputation their company would gain all over the internet and magazines might make the long term gains more than worth the $ they put into this one project. Not every project by a tuner is for mass sale and application. Many are undertaken simply to show the technical and mechanical expertise/ knowledge that the company is capable of.
Very well stated and also the post that The Blur stated above is well put. We have a V6- 2010 Camaro being shipped to us currently, which will have our single turbo kit installed on it, but we will post that in another thread.

The GT-R's are fast and that V6 Camaro is going to have its work cut out for it, but it is doable in the right hands.
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Old 08-07-2009, 08:15 AM   #31
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I think its hilarious...the camaro is going to have zero problem laying down the hp's from that V6 to match the skyline, the problem is going to be weight.

Maybe some carbon fiber parts(better chose a black LS) and some lighter rims would help out. I'm sure handling will be a lot easier to fix once some of the excess weight is taken off.
True. I think the V-6 will be able to make the power hands down. The weight is actually close between the two

Nissan GTR: 3,830lbs
Camaro V-6: 3,750lbs

It's just all of the technical stuff on the GT-R that makes it a monster



Plus the Camaro has to beat a time of 7:29


An amazing feat, but if it comes even within striking distance of that time I would be impressed

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Old 08-07-2009, 08:19 AM   #32
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Seems like a fun project, looking forward to see some results . I really wonder how much something like this would run you though.
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Old 08-07-2009, 08:24 AM   #33
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Im no Nissan fan but these guys have there work cut out for them.... Im not saying they cant do it!
Good luck to them and I hope they pull it off!

http://www.edmunds.com/nissan/gtr/2009/review.html

"Performance-wise, the gnarly Nissan has a long list of co-conspirators to thank, among them a 473-horsepower twin-turbocharged V6, a thoroughly revised version of the previous GT-R's ATTESA ET-S all-wheel-drive system, a trick suspension with adjustable dampers and a dual-clutch transmission that ranks right up there with the best in the business."

"Credit also goes to the GT-R's all-new PM ("Premium Midship") chassis, as distinguished from the FM platform that underpins the 350Z and the Infiniti G35. The GT-R's 53/47 weight distribution (50/50 under full acceleration, Nissan says) is due in part to the PM chassis' rear-mounted transmission, unusual in any case for a front-engine design -- only the Corvette and a few other high-end performance cars have one -- but unprecedented for one with all-wheel drive. What's more, to guard against inconsistencies from one GT-R to the next, the car's suspension and body are assembled on a jig, racecar style. The result is an honest-to-goodness supercar"

"The 2009 Nissan GT-R is powered by a 3.8-liter twin-turbocharged V6 engine that generates 473 hp and 434 pound-feet of torque. A six-speed dual-clutch automated manual transmission routes this prodigious power to the ground via an advanced all-wheel-drive system."

"In our instrumented testing, the 3,836-pound GT-R teleported to 60 mph in a drama-free 3.3 seconds, thanks to its launch control function, and turned in a blistering 11.6-second quarter-mile at nearly 121 mph."
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Old 08-07-2009, 08:28 AM   #34
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Go ETMC! I may have to drop by and see if they need a free hand. Would be sweet to have a hand in this project being that I live a couple miles from their shop!
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Old 08-07-2009, 08:40 AM   #35
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ok well to make things better. in an article would have to find. well i was searching can't find it. i will double check myself after i post this at work tonight with another guy who also mentioned it. but one of the car magazines did a review of the genesis and the gt-r and the genesis beat it on the track the gt-r wasn't holding the turns as well. now i may have also mistaken this with another car forgive me if my facts are wrong i did just get hom from work and yet to fall asleep. but i will do more research. now if thats the case the camaro will take it easily
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Old 08-07-2009, 08:45 AM   #36
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And how much money is this costing?

There's a point where you spend so much money that it just makes no sense. I could attach million dollar shuttle rockets to a Toyota Camry, but it doesn't make it awesome. Any car can be made fast...for this project to be worth it the cost of doing this needs to be feasible for regular people to transform their V6's.
It's not going to cost an arm and a leg. Besides, it's the future - the days of the big V8 in mass-produced performance cars is numbered. You'll always be able to get them in super cars and ultra luxo mobiles, but not much longer with cars in the sub-$50k price bracket.

I think it's something to look foward to - high reving, small displacement engines making over 400 hp is more interesting and appealing to me (and alot of gearheads) than big pushrod V8 engines. Get that kind of performance plus increase your fuel economy significantly - how can you go wrong?
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Old 08-07-2009, 09:27 AM   #37
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I think the biggest hurdle will be handling. We all know the GT-R can grip so hard it gives you neck injury. 5:11. So the V6 would have to have both a crazy amount of grip and a big burst out of corners to stand any type of chance.
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Old 08-07-2009, 09:35 AM   #38
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the sts turbo isnt an expensive system its really affordable for the average person. i myself orderd a 2010 camaro 2ss and im just a spc in the military and i will also be puttin an sts tubro on my car....
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Old 08-07-2009, 09:52 AM   #39
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we are looking to spend under 55K TOTAL CAR AND ALL!
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Old 08-07-2009, 09:54 AM   #40
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Well, you've got to keep in mind that the GT-R's ~473 (ish..) is to the wheels, not at the crank, I'm sure that is doable, but the power isn't everything.

And also, STS turbo = failsauce.
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Old 08-07-2009, 09:55 AM   #41
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Old 08-07-2009, 09:56 AM   #42
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That would be quite a feat!! Please keep us updated.
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Old 08-07-2009, 10:01 AM   #43
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Exactly.

This car...from delivery at dealer...until it beats the GT-R doesn't mean anything if it doesn't come in at under $80K (estimated GT-R cost).

It's the same argument we use about the Mustang GT500... "Yeah it's faster but it costs $15K more!" If you can't make a Camaro faster than a GT500 with $15K...then the GT500 wins. (which shouldn't be a problem LOL)

(BTW, they basically have $57,000 to make it faster than the GTR...so it's not chump-change they're working with.)
Yup, this won't be your bought off the lot Camaro this thing is going to have alot of one off custom engine mods which probably will cost alot. Someone might be better off buying a SS and spending much less to get more horsepower.
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Yup, this won't be your bought off the lot Camaro this thing is going to have alot of one off custom engine mods which probably will cost alot. Someone might be better off buying a SS and spending much less to get more horsepower.
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no other suspension mods? just coilovers and a BBK? info on BBK, is it 4 piston or 6 piston? what about rear brakes? upgrading those as well? n e weight reduction?
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Old 08-07-2009, 10:30 AM   #46
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Meh, maybe with 700-800 horsepower and zr1 brakes it will stand a chance against the gt-r.
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Meh, maybe with 700-800 horsepower and zr1 brakes it will stand a chance against the gt-r.
GT-R weighs MORE than the V6 Camaro, and is pushing 473 HP to the wheels with a twin-turbo V6. This is definitely doable, as the Camaro's weight distribution is pretty ideal. Looking forward to seeing the results from this!
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Old 08-07-2009, 10:58 AM   #48
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Here is the vette record stock ZR1. Driven by GM performance parts big wig Jim Mero.
Guy is one heck of a driver.

I don't remember where it is but looks like he missed a gear in one of the turns... and was still fast as doo doo.
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I'm glad to see pedders is the suspension tuner for this....

I can't wait to see if they can pull it off... Those of us that are looking to suspension mods are gonna benefit huge from this...

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GT-R weighs MORE than the V6 Camaro, and is pushing 473 HP to the wheels with a twin-turbo V6. This is definitely doable, as the Camaro's weight distribution is pretty ideal. Looking forward to seeing the results from this!
cept it's more like 370-410 at the wheels from various dynos. i think a couple got in the 420s
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