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Old 08-07-2009, 09:40 AM   #35
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ok well to make things better. in an article would have to find. well i was searching can't find it. i will double check myself after i post this at work tonight with another guy who also mentioned it. but one of the car magazines did a review of the genesis and the gt-r and the genesis beat it on the track the gt-r wasn't holding the turns as well. now i may have also mistaken this with another car forgive me if my facts are wrong i did just get hom from work and yet to fall asleep. but i will do more research. now if thats the case the camaro will take it easily
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Old 08-07-2009, 09:45 AM   #36
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And how much money is this costing?

There's a point where you spend so much money that it just makes no sense. I could attach million dollar shuttle rockets to a Toyota Camry, but it doesn't make it awesome. Any car can be made fast...for this project to be worth it the cost of doing this needs to be feasible for regular people to transform their V6's.
It's not going to cost an arm and a leg. Besides, it's the future - the days of the big V8 in mass-produced performance cars is numbered. You'll always be able to get them in super cars and ultra luxo mobiles, but not much longer with cars in the sub-$50k price bracket.

I think it's something to look foward to - high reving, small displacement engines making over 400 hp is more interesting and appealing to me (and alot of gearheads) than big pushrod V8 engines. Get that kind of performance plus increase your fuel economy significantly - how can you go wrong?
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Old 08-07-2009, 10:27 AM   #37
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I think the biggest hurdle will be handling. We all know the GT-R can grip so hard it gives you neck injury. 5:11. So the V6 would have to have both a crazy amount of grip and a big burst out of corners to stand any type of chance.
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Old 08-07-2009, 10:35 AM   #38
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the sts turbo isnt an expensive system its really affordable for the average person. i myself orderd a 2010 camaro 2ss and im just a spc in the military and i will also be puttin an sts tubro on my car....
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Old 08-07-2009, 10:52 AM   #39
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we are looking to spend under 55K TOTAL CAR AND ALL!
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Old 08-07-2009, 10:54 AM   #40
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Well, you've got to keep in mind that the GT-R's ~473 (ish..) is to the wheels, not at the crank, I'm sure that is doable, but the power isn't everything.

And also, STS turbo = failsauce.
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Old 08-07-2009, 10:55 AM   #41
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Old 08-07-2009, 10:56 AM   #42
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we are looking to spend under 55K TOTAL CAR AND ALL!
That would be quite a feat!! Please keep us updated.
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Old 08-07-2009, 11:01 AM   #43
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Exactly.

This car...from delivery at dealer...until it beats the GT-R doesn't mean anything if it doesn't come in at under $80K (estimated GT-R cost).

It's the same argument we use about the Mustang GT500... "Yeah it's faster but it costs $15K more!" If you can't make a Camaro faster than a GT500 with $15K...then the GT500 wins. (which shouldn't be a problem LOL)

(BTW, they basically have $57,000 to make it faster than the GTR...so it's not chump-change they're working with.)
Yup, this won't be your bought off the lot Camaro this thing is going to have alot of one off custom engine mods which probably will cost alot. Someone might be better off buying a SS and spending much less to get more horsepower.
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Old 08-07-2009, 11:17 AM   #44
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Yup, this won't be your bought off the lot Camaro this thing is going to have alot of one off custom engine mods which probably will cost alot. Someone might be better off buying a SS and spending much less to get more horsepower.
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Old 08-07-2009, 11:17 AM   #45
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no other suspension mods? just coilovers and a BBK? info on BBK, is it 4 piston or 6 piston? what about rear brakes? upgrading those as well? n e weight reduction?
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Old 08-07-2009, 11:30 AM   #46
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Meh, maybe with 700-800 horsepower and zr1 brakes it will stand a chance against the gt-r.
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Old 08-07-2009, 11:56 AM   #47
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Meh, maybe with 700-800 horsepower and zr1 brakes it will stand a chance against the gt-r.
GT-R weighs MORE than the V6 Camaro, and is pushing 473 HP to the wheels with a twin-turbo V6. This is definitely doable, as the Camaro's weight distribution is pretty ideal. Looking forward to seeing the results from this!
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Old 08-07-2009, 11:58 AM   #48
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Here is the vette record stock ZR1. Driven by GM performance parts big wig Jim Mero.
Guy is one heck of a driver.

I don't remember where it is but looks like he missed a gear in one of the turns... and was still fast as doo doo.
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Old 08-07-2009, 11:59 AM   #49
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I'm glad to see pedders is the suspension tuner for this....

I can't wait to see if they can pull it off... Those of us that are looking to suspension mods are gonna benefit huge from this...

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GT-R weighs MORE than the V6 Camaro, and is pushing 473 HP to the wheels with a twin-turbo V6. This is definitely doable, as the Camaro's weight distribution is pretty ideal. Looking forward to seeing the results from this!
cept it's more like 370-410 at the wheels from various dynos. i think a couple got in the 420s
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Guys,


While I would love to give all of the technical info about this project I can't. All I can say is that this is very doable. We have done a LOT of research to make sure we are not way off base with this. We know the Camaro ways LESS than the GTR and with Pedders suspension we can get a PERFECT weight distribution. We know we can pull higher g-forces in the Camaro than the GTR. We know we can make the power. The big question for us and to everyone else is going to be if we can put this into a package and make it all work together the way the GTR or ZR1 can.

Bottom line is if I didn't think it were possible I wouldn't put my reputation on the line.

Thanks for all of the support guys and keep an eye on us!
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