Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums - Camaro5.com
 
Dyno Max
Go Back   Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums - Camaro5.com > General Camaro Forums > 5th Gen Camaro SS LS LT General Discussions

5th Gen Camaro SS LS LT General Discussions General 5th generation Camaro topics not covered by other subforums.

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 08-08-2009, 12:27 AM   #76
rodimus prime
Account Suspended
 
Drives: Cargo van.
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Metal Metal Land
Posts: 1,248
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dragoneye View Post
I can't WAIT to see the results....and tout one more car capable of handing the gtr its broken transmission on a platter made of non-OEM race tires (see if anyone picks up on those metaphors...)....

You can file that under "aint gonna happen".

Like it or not, the GTR is a well put together car. It would be funny if it did happen, but then it would also be faster than a z06 and a zr1.

Aint gonna happen.
rodimus prime is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-08-2009, 01:04 AM   #77
east TX Muscle cars

 
east TX Muscle cars's Avatar
 
Drives: 2x 05 Vettes/65'AC cobra/68 camaro
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: LONGVIEW, TEXAS
Posts: 845
Yes we are going with the STS route. we run a TON of there kits and my personal car is a 1000+ hp STS TT car. on pump gas. If i though we needed a ROOTS to do the job i would have picked that, but the GTR does it with T.T.'s so we will too!
east TX Muscle cars is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-08-2009, 07:26 AM   #78
rodimus prime
Account Suspended
 
Drives: Cargo van.
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Metal Metal Land
Posts: 1,248
Im rooting for you guys. It would be funny stuff to see that happen. If you need any smart ass comments to get you guys through it let me know.
rodimus prime is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-08-2009, 07:50 AM   #79
Epitaph
Custom User Title
 
Drives: Fast
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: San Diego, CA
Posts: 550
That's going to take quite a bit of work...Good luck!

Any idea when you'll have it finished? As in...will you keep working on it after SEMA?
Epitaph is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-08-2009, 11:05 AM   #80
manimsoblack

 
manimsoblack's Avatar
 
Drives: 04 Pontiac Grand Am, 08 Ninja 650r
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Bradenton/Ruskin FL
Posts: 1,244
Quote:
Originally Posted by rodimus prime View Post
You can file that under "aint gonna happen".

Like it or not, the GTR is a well put together car. It would be funny if it did happen, but then it would also be faster than a z06 and a zr1.

Aint gonna happen.
you mean as fast as a zr1
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kyle2k View Post
You take a shit on everything fun and good on this forum.
manimsoblack is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-08-2009, 01:02 PM   #81
Supermans
Camaro & Stang Enthusiast
 
Supermans's Avatar
 
Drives: 2011 Mustang 5.0 in Kona Blue
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Miami
Posts: 4,757
Quote:
Originally Posted by The_Blur View Post
It's more than just having an affordable and fast V6. This is proving the limits of the LLT and pushing it to dimensions never before reached. It is taking a car that targeted the Corvette and putting a turbocharged V6 in front of it. Stop thinking about the money and realize how amazing a feat of engineering this truly is. Of course it is going to be expensive, but how could it not be worth seeing someone's minimal Camaro LS defeat a Nissan GT-R at the Nurburgring?
Yes, but it won't be a minimal LS anymore after $26,000 or more worth of upgrades to everything..But I know what you mean though..
__________________
Bought my Camaro from Eric Hall(817) 421-7266
Supermans is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-08-2009, 01:51 PM   #82
chrisgalles
TEXAS FIGHT!
 
chrisgalles's Avatar
 
Drives: Awesome
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Longview, Tx
Posts: 1,226
So...anyone got a hook up with the airlines. See if we can get a Camaro5 group rate over to Germany so we can all cheer the Camaro on. How sweet would it be to have an airplane full of Camaro5 guys and gals!
chrisgalles is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-08-2009, 02:07 PM   #83
ConceptVBS
 
Drives: POS
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: iraq
Posts: 74
500 hp on a 3700 lb car with RWD is not going to beat a GT-R. Even the ~3000 pounds ZR1 barely beats out the GT-R. AWD with rear bias wins in this track.

I fail to see what the point in this. Spending tons of money on a main stream sports car to beat a time set by a super car. So lets say you did beat it, what did you accomplish? That a highly modified car can beat a stock car? Heres a cookie. With that kind of money to spend, I'd rather buy the ZR1 and beat the GT-R, STOCK.
ConceptVBS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-08-2009, 02:36 PM   #84
Supermans
Camaro & Stang Enthusiast
 
Supermans's Avatar
 
Drives: 2011 Mustang 5.0 in Kona Blue
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Miami
Posts: 4,757
Quote:
Originally Posted by ConceptVBS View Post
500 hp on a 3700 lb car with RWD is not going to beat a GT-R. Even the ~3000 pounds ZR1 barely beats out the GT-R. AWD with rear bias wins in this track.

I fail to see what the point in this. Spending tons of money on a main stream sports car to beat a time set by a super car. So lets say you did beat it, what did you accomplish? That a highly modified car can beat a stock car? Heres a cookie. With that kind of money to spend, I'd rather buy the ZR1 and beat the GT-R, STOCK.
You cannot buy a ZR1 for $55,000... Anyways, the point is these guys have set out a goal.. If they meet the goal then they have a great marketing tool for their product. If not, then they still can say they got a certain time which could be better than many other cars out there.. This could be a publicity stunt...Let's wait and see..
__________________
Bought my Camaro from Eric Hall(817) 421-7266
Supermans is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-08-2009, 02:39 PM   #85
stovt001


 
stovt001's Avatar
 
Drives: 2006 Cobalt, 2004 Taurus wagon
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: California
Posts: 3,817
Sometimes the real fun is in the process and trying, not necessarily the result. Even if they fail, they end up making a really amazing V6 Camaro.
__________________
"It's kind of fun to do the impossible" - Walt Disney

There's a great big beautiful tomorrow
shining at the end of every day
There's a great big beautiful tomorrow
Just a dream away
stovt001 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-08-2009, 05:31 PM   #86
Mr. Wyndham
I used to be Dragoneye...
 
Mr. Wyndham's Avatar
 
Drives: 2014 Camaro 1LE
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Buffalo, NY
Posts: 25,788
Send a message via AIM to Mr. Wyndham
"" at all the negative nancys around here...

Your mother's ever tell you if you don't have anything nice to say then don't say anything at all? Is there really a need for the repetitive "it ain't gonna happen"? No...you aren't building it, and it hasn't been built yet, so if you doubt them, then keep your comments to yourselves!
__________________
"Keep the faith." - - Read Before You Post.
SIGN UP for 2014 Camaro5 HPDE @ Gingerman Raceway!
Mr. Wyndham is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-08-2009, 10:09 PM   #87
Epitaph
Custom User Title
 
Drives: Fast
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: San Diego, CA
Posts: 550
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dragoneye View Post
"" at all the negative nancys around here...

Your mother's ever tell you if you don't have anything nice to say then don't say anything at all? Is there really a need for the repetitive "it ain't gonna happen"? No...you aren't building it, and it hasn't been built yet, so if you doubt them, then keep your comments to yourselves!


It's the fact that they're getting pissed at these people for even attempting this feat that bothers me....

Btw, who says this car will be RWD? They could make it AWD. I'm not saying they will, but it's a possibility.

Don't forget that the GT-R will be using street tires as well. Their "Fastest Lap" was on racing tires.
Epitaph is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-08-2009, 10:11 PM   #88
GTAHVIT
Blessed
 
GTAHVIT's Avatar
 
Drives: 2013 Sonic RS MT
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Saint Augustine FL
Posts: 28,849
Quote:
Originally Posted by Epitath View Post


It's the fact that they're getting pissed at these people for even attempting this feat that bothers me....

Btw, who says this car will be RWD? They could make it AWD. I'm not saying they will, but it's a possibility.

Don't forget that the GT-R will be using street tires as well. Their "Fastest Lap" was on racing tires.
I'm with ya but,

I don't think a AWD conversion is in the works for the 55K price tag they've got going.
GTAHVIT is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-08-2009, 11:35 PM   #89
ShnOmac


 
ShnOmac's Avatar
 
Drives: 2006 Silverado SS, 2009 G8 GT
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: PNW
Posts: 13,407
Quote:
Originally Posted by Epitath View Post

Don't forget that the GT-R will be using street tires as well. Their "Fastest Lap" was on racing tires.

That could make a major diff right there
ShnOmac is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-09-2009, 01:51 PM   #90
bkservice1
BK SERVICE1
 
bkservice1's Avatar
 
Drives: 2010 aqua blue rally stripes
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: houston,tx
Posts: 42
i dont care about the hp. i just love driving my car the way it is. its frigging awsome and everyone stares when i drive by
bkservice1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-09-2009, 01:59 PM   #91
1GMFanatik
Da Blue Beast
 
Drives: 08 Chevy TBSS
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Marlton, NJ
Posts: 154
Send a message via Yahoo to 1GMFanatik
I don't understand why everyone gets all excited about the GT-R.. They are pretty sharp and pretty quick BUT what about the trans issues and not being covered STOCK from Nissan after using the Competitive Mode??

Anyways... I like the direction that ya'll are going with this and can't wait to see some updates let alone the final outcome. Keep on keepin on. Being different is most def where it's at.
1GMFanatik is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-09-2009, 09:51 PM   #92
Mr. Wyndham
I used to be Dragoneye...
 
Mr. Wyndham's Avatar
 
Drives: 2014 Camaro 1LE
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Buffalo, NY
Posts: 25,788
Send a message via AIM to Mr. Wyndham
Quote:
Originally Posted by shnomac77 View Post
That could make a major diff right there
Something like 30 seconds according to Porche. They ran a BONE stock gtr down the ring to dispute Nissans phoney times, and it came out just shy of 8 minutes, if I recall correctly. Slower than a Z06.

EDIT: Here's an article.
http://www.autoblog.com/2008/09/30/p...ting-the-ring/

EDIT2: And I don't mean to turn this into a gtr-bashing thread. Simply providing some evidence that this isn't as difficult as some think.
__________________
"Keep the faith." - - Read Before You Post.
SIGN UP for 2014 Camaro5 HPDE @ Gingerman Raceway!
Mr. Wyndham is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-11-2009, 07:02 PM   #93
Erik@Torq
 
Erik@Torq's Avatar
 
Drives: '10 SS + '04 Z16 Z06 S/C
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Miramar, FL
Posts: 1,492
Send a message via MSN to Erik@Torq
R-spec tires compared to a high performance street tire (not racing slicks) will differ about 8-15 sec depending on the vehicle. The issue with the GT-R going so "slow" was because of different drivers, different days, different weather etc etc. I was there during the second run and saw it with my own eyes.

I have raced at The Nürburgring many times, last time being just a few months ago. I visit the track at least twice a year for "tourist driving" and twice a year for official racing.

HP is obviously important on a track like The Nürburgring, considering a hight difference of approx. 900feet and many long straights, but is far from everything. Just because a car has 2000hp won't make it go faster because it then has to brake harder and have a better suspension to keep the speed through the corners. Every part of the car is as important then the next. A well balanced, well sorted car is everything at that track!

May I ask who is driving? As I am sure you know, the drivers of the any car that has gone faster then 8min full lap, is no amateur. They say it takes about 150 laps to know your way around the track (14 miles, over 100 corners, many dips, bumps etc that WILL kill you if taken wrong) and another 100 laps to really be able to drive fast. I do believe a really good driver could take a highly modified Camaro and do a 8min lap, but where on a forum 30sec may not sound like much, is actually a life time on that track!

Will you be gutting the car completely? Full roll cage? What are the specs on the suspension and brakes besides who's making them? R-spec tires, street tires or slicks?

When will you be doing the actual timed run? On a manufacturer day? Because there are extremly few days that the complete track is open to the public without paying 10-15K USD for 2 hours track time. The tourist driving is not recommended for timed runs due to traffic, plus the Döttingehöhe straight (the long one) is closed and you have to enter the paddock before going out again.

I ask this because I have been involved in a few record runs and trials, and I know how hard it is to get in there.

I hope you guys take the time to answer my questions as I am extremely interested in this project as The Ring is my second home

I seriously hope you guys do pull this off, and I wish you all the luck!

If you have any questions about setting the car up for the track, or anything at all just send me a PM.
Erik@Torq is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-11-2009, 07:15 PM   #94
carsismeZ06
Corvette and Camaro lover
 
carsismeZ06's Avatar
 
Drives: 2010 Camaro...some day...
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Ohio
Posts: 965
If they do it...I'll buy one.
__________________
carsismeZ06 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-12-2009, 10:36 AM   #95
carsismeZ06
Corvette and Camaro lover
 
carsismeZ06's Avatar
 
Drives: 2010 Camaro...some day...
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Ohio
Posts: 965
GT-R Blog Thinks East Texas Muscle Cars Is A Joke

http://www.gtrblog.com/2009/08/07/fr...with-turbo-v6/


I kinda like the GT-R, but after this...screw it.
__________________
carsismeZ06 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-12-2009, 10:55 AM   #96
Rikarus
I can't tpye!
 
Rikarus's Avatar
 
Drives: 2010 RS/SS Victory Red
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Denver
Posts: 581
So the Texan's should jsut go and KICK Ass!
Rikarus is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-14-2009, 01:05 AM   #97
PieNsky

 
PieNsky's Avatar
 
Drives: Victory Red 1LS
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Louisville,KY
Posts: 1,902
Quote:
Originally Posted by The_Blur View Post
It's more than just having an affordable and fast V6. This is proving the limits of the LLT and pushing it to dimensions never before reached. It is taking a car that targeted the Corvette and putting a turbocharged V6 in front of it. Stop thinking about the money and realize how amazing a feat of engineering this truly is. Of course it is going to be expensive, but how could it not be worth seeing someone's minimal Camaro LS defeat a Nissan GT-R at the Nurburgring?

I was told they are going with a loaded V6 over a LS
Fbodfather has stated several times the LS was to be a blank sheet of paper for those who wanted to spend it else where. It would have tough looking wouldn't it ! And what is the difference in the 1LT? Foglights,wheels and powered seats? Haven't decided on an aftermarket wheel and those aftermarket colored halo headlights look nice.

Last edited by PieNsky; 08-14-2009 at 09:15 AM.
PieNsky is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-14-2009, 01:39 AM   #98
bluestang50
Account Suspended
 
Drives: DD
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Athens, GA
Posts: 119
hell yeah go east tx muscle cars, are yall trying to beat the GTRs real stock lap time of 7:56?
bluestang50 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-22-2009, 12:25 AM   #99
chevydude26

 
chevydude26's Avatar
 
Drives: Future 2011 camaro convertible
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 1,259
any word on the progress??

I hope you guys can do it! i'm pulling for you guys
__________________
I think i flip flopped on the ss bumper...it looks good man...it really does
chevydude26 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-22-2009, 01:01 AM   #100
DntWrryBeHappy21
Patiently Waiting...
 
DntWrryBeHappy21's Avatar
 
Drives: whatevers in the driveway atm
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 404
Send a message via AIM to DntWrryBeHappy21
after reading that article laughing at the camaro trying to beat it i REALLY REALLY hope it slays the GTR and well I like the GTR...sigh good luck guys!!
__________________


One day....
DntWrryBeHappy21 is offline   Reply With Quote
 
Reply

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Camaro Product Manager - interview Moose 5th Gen Camaro SS LS LT General Discussions 11 04-04-2012 07:10 PM
GM memo to dealers Moose 5th Gen Camaro SS LS LT General Discussions 41 02-04-2010 08:33 PM
Official Camaro Convertible CONCEPT Press Release Tran Camaro Convertible Forum 12 11-18-2009 08:05 PM
GM launches 2010 Camaro in middle east ( photos from dubai ) kuwait-camaro 5th Gen Camaro SS LS LT General Discussions 66 06-15-2009 04:57 PM
Question about camaro sales compared to other muscle cars? steviefranchize 5th Gen Camaro SS LS LT General Discussions 11 06-09-2009 10:46 AM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:01 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.