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Old 08-07-2009, 06:51 AM   #1
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New Intake - Opinion Needed...

So I want to get a CAI for my car. I have the LS3. Several companies claim to have the best product. Is there proof or dyno charts to prove which is the best choice? My friend Matt55 says the Vararam would be his choice. My local Speedshop says the LMR is their choice..... What are your guys thoughts??

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Old 08-07-2009, 08:17 AM   #2
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LMR is what I picked...great group to work with!

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Old 08-07-2009, 09:06 AM   #3
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Should this be in the performance discussion section?
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Old 08-07-2009, 09:13 AM   #4
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Old 08-07-2009, 09:18 AM   #5
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I went with LMR.....
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Old 08-07-2009, 09:29 AM   #6
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So I want to get a CAI for my car. I have the LS3. Several companies claim to have the best product. Is there proof or dyno charts to prove which is the best choice? My friend Matt55 says the Vararam would be his choice. My local Speedshop says the LMR is their choice..... What are your guys thoughts??

Thanks for the time....

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Wouldnt listen to the matt55 guy

Some give good gains , but look WHY they give you good gains .
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Texas Speed Intake , about 18-20 hp gain !
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=29980
BUT look at the A/F 's all most a point leaner !!
So how much gain is from just A/F change , some are getting 15-20 form a tune so......

I still think the intake placed in a high pressure zone is going to give best HP.
Like Vararam or if your impatient (you have to know him !) New era http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...ght=era+intake
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Old 08-07-2009, 09:30 AM   #7
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Vararam will be the best, the offer the biggest gains , their price will be competitive and they offer a money back guarantee. i don't remember any other companies offering that. New era will be a close second, everyone else offers side mounted intakes that sit right in the engine departments, there more like short ram intakes and not cold air intakes, and are all basically the same in overall design. Vararaam is taking their time doing it right before they release, they didn't just throw some pipe out on the market and call it an intake. My money will be spent with Vararam.
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Old 08-07-2009, 09:36 AM   #8
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When is the scheduled release???

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Old 08-07-2009, 09:37 AM   #9
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With all of the time and testing that Vararam is doing, I'm going with them. Especially since they're going to be priced competitively against New Era.

I've also heard of some intakes causing codes to be thrown, so just be aware of that also. That will definitely be a deciding factor for me too.
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When is the scheduled release???

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End of August.
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Old 08-07-2009, 09:39 AM   #11
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Do they have a website??
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Old 08-07-2009, 09:40 AM   #12
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Do they have a website?? Sorry I am too lazy to look it up, I know someone has it off the top of their head. :0)
You're too lazy to look it up, so you want someone else to? It'd take me 10 seconds to find their thread/URL.

Go do it yourself.
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Old 08-07-2009, 09:42 AM   #13
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One thing I want to add is I am looking for quicker throttle response. Isn't an open air filter vs. in a box going to offer that???

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Old 08-07-2009, 09:57 AM   #14
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here is a good post from vararam




Testing- we are approaching our mileage goals without issue.

latest test data: (2010 SS Automatic)
DA= 2400-2600ft above sea level
dead idle launches in drive
all runs are hot laps, "NO COOLDOWN"
Using same G-tech etc..

0-60 = 4.67-4.71
1/4mile 13.07-13.12 @ 109.1-109.3mph

these would be strong 12 second runs@110-111mph in a decent Density Altitude. ( NO TUNING)

We are still working on several of the key components in the tail of the system that have Patents that are pending, so at this point we still cannot show pictures of the rear of the unit.

We know many other companies rushed intake kits out the door and have since thrown check engine lights and required a retune.

We are spending time data logging with EFI live to keep this diaeled out as we have continued to turn up the wick on the unit. Unlike most intake kits Vararam units are nothing but baby superchargers with efficencies well over 100% and as such we have more to deal with on the E38 computer than simple static dyno readings.
One testing example: a 0-60mph run
We have reached 105KPA in 1st gear alone! but the time to that KPA is reduced by 33%!
By the numbers we are seeing we are close to the max at this point.
Now we must reach our target milage without issue before switching to production tooling, we will not compromise this.

The next shots we release will be 99% the real thing.
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Old 08-07-2009, 10:00 AM   #15
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I was leaning towards the "over the radiator" style CAI by New Era Performance. It has a less bend, if any, for the air to flow straight into the throttle body because it's right in front of the engine. It's a shorter path for the air to flow. This should be a better upgrade right? Most other CAI's are long and have a big 90° bend. Is the air source collection point colder with the OTR or other type?
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You're too lazy to look it up, so you want someone else to? It'd take me 10 seconds to find their thread/URL.

Go do it yourself.
What's with the attitude? Don't post if your going to say crap like that.
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Old 08-07-2009, 10:26 AM   #17
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I was simply stating that if someone knew it by heart to post the website. It was lazy of me but Verio did not need to be so rude....... I am sure other people viewing the post would like the info as well.

Thanks Matt for the info.......
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What's with the attitude? Don't post if your going to say crap like that.
Did you even read what I quoted?

He said he was too lazy to look it up, so he wants someone else to do it.

Honestly, why encourage lazy behavior? Welcome to society as a whole, where someone ELSE is expected to do the work for you.

Edit - It's called a Search button for a reason. They didn't throw it on this forum so I could do forum searches for someone else.
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Did you even read what I quoted?

He said he was too lazy to look it up, so he wants someone else to do it.

Honestly, why encourage lazy behavior? Welcome to society as a whole, where someone ELSE is expected to do the work for you.

Edit - It's called a Search button for a reason. They didn't throw it on this forum so I could do forum searches for someone else.
What I was getting at is- you have the time to bitch at him but not give him the url? vararam.com, vararam.com, vararam.com- Not a problem...I guess I'm still used to the old camaro5....
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What I was getting at is- you have the time to bitch at him but not give him the url? vararam.com, vararam.com, vararam.com- Not a problem...I guess I'm still used to the old camaro5....
In the time it took you to respond to me, you could've taken my trash out for me too. Do you feel like doing that also?

I had no problem answering his questions before the post... so I'm not sure what the old Camaro5 was? I'm sure Tran put that "Search" emoticon on here for a reason... and it wasn't because people like to search for things on their own.

Edit - Grumpy Grandpa is right :(
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In the time it took you to respond to me, you could've taken my trash out for me too. Do you feel like doing that also?

I had no problem answering his questions before the post... so I'm not sure what the old Camaro5 was? I'm sure Tran put that "Search" emoticon on here for a reason... and it wasn't because people like to search for things on their own.

Edit - Grumpy Grandpa is right :(
In the time you have spent typing your several post you could have given me the website address in the first place and saved your valuable time to bitch at someone else.

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Anyway.... Vararam seems to be the best OTR I've seen on the forums here. However, I'd like see final pricing, and all that jazz before I put my heart on it.
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Vararam will be the best, the offer the biggest gains , their price will be competitive and they offer a money back guarantee. i don't remember any other companies offering that. New era will be a close second, everyone else offers side mounted intakes that sit right in the engine departments, there more like short ram intakes and not cold air intakes, and are all basically the same in overall design. Vararaam is taking their time doing it right before they release, they didn't just throw some pipe out on the market and call it an intake. My money will be spent with Vararam.
Thank you - I agree 100%!!!!!!!
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