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Old 04-09-2008, 11:13 PM   #141
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The GT500 as a benchmark is something my brain has latched onto for hope meaning the top end Camaro will push past 500 hp (even thought the GT500 really makes 447 hp...well, according to Top Gear anyway).
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Old 04-09-2008, 11:29 PM   #142
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The GT500 as a benchmark is something my brain has latched onto for hope meaning the top end Camaro will push past 500 hp (even thought the GT500 really makes 447 hp...well, according to Top Gear anyway).
Thats because Top Gear is too retarded to realize that a dyno measures hp at the wheels and not off the fly wheel...
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Old 04-09-2008, 11:37 PM   #143
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So I have some time off, lot off time off. So I brushed up on my photoshop skills. So here's one I'll post it back on the main photo shop thread but I'm gonna make a few more I hope. I can just get Dragoneye to help me out with some colors and stripes, we can see what this baby's gonna look like.

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Old 04-09-2008, 11:38 PM   #144
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Thats because Top Gear is too retarded to realize that a dyno measures hp at the wheels and not off the fly wheel...
Yeah, you're right, the GT500 makes 500 hp at the crank and more like 447 at the rear wheels. But I think that Top Gear knows darn well what the HP numbers mean.

Wild_weasel, take for instance...the C6 Corvette Z06 makes anywhere between 453 and 468 rear wheel hp...even while having a factory rating of 505 hp, which of course is rated at the flywheel. Top Gear knows what they're talking about...just food for thought.
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Old 04-09-2008, 11:39 PM   #145
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THOU SHALT NOT BADMOUTH TOP GEAR!!

unless of course, if Clarkson doesn't like the Camaro... then by all means, lol

I think what they were talking about was the fact that it doesnt live up to the "GT500" name, and that in the UK, they sell and advertise cars on actual BHP, not flywheel... but then again, he's biased to European cars anyways.

Could be wrong though...
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Old 04-09-2008, 11:45 PM   #146
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Hope that worked.
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Old 04-09-2008, 11:58 PM   #147
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Good Job! At first glance, didnt notice the headlamps weren't chopped...
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Old 04-10-2008, 12:02 AM   #148
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I got work on those headlights a little. I'll have more on the Photoshop thread.
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THOU SHALT NOT BADMOUTH TOP GEAR!!

unless of course, if Clarkson doesn't like the Camaro... then by all means, lol

I think what they were talking about was the fact that it doesnt live up to the "GT500" name, and that in the UK, they sell and advertise cars on actual BHP, not flywheel... but then again, he's biased to European cars anyways.

Could be wrong though...
Uhm...BHP is pretty much the same as flywheel hp....
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Old 04-10-2008, 12:16 AM   #150
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Top Gear is most definitely biased against American cars, but to each his own.

Horsepower ratings aside (though thanks a lot for the measurement lesson, I actually didn't know why there was such a big disparity and where it was measured from), whether its 447 or 500hp, using that as your benchmark implies that the Camaro will beat those numbers, hands down, as black and white numbers on paper. And thats just the hp. Not to mention the Camaro will easily outhandle the blue oval horsey with its live rear axle.

But I fear this may become if I continue further so...

Awesome pics from Deutchland
I want one in black...as always
It will go fast, whatever the trim level
I think it's great its being tested here, it shows a real commitment to overall performance and quality.
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Old 04-10-2008, 12:23 AM   #151
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Uhm...BHP is pretty much the same as flywheel hp....
Ahhh yes, true, I was mistaken... meant RWHP...
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Old 04-10-2008, 02:29 AM   #152
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Worth noting that Hammond LOVES American cars and owns several - and in this month's Top Gear magazine (or last months... I forget) he's written an article about why we should all want the new Challenger (in the UK where it won't be sold, at all...).

I'm LOVING these pictures - mine's Gunmetal grey with black wheels please!
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Old 04-10-2008, 05:48 AM   #153
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I wish you could post links to the pix here. I'd like to see them but I'm not giving out my email address! :-] I bet almost everyone reading this thread would LOVE to see them. In fact your PM box is probably full.
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Old 04-10-2008, 09:24 AM   #154
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Finally

Its getting closer by the monthes i love checking my emali so i get surprised about all the new stuff thanks!
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