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Old 08-07-2009, 08:11 PM   #1
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Ziebart treatment worth it on my new Camaro?

Hi everyone.

I've ordered a Black on Black 2LT M6 w/ RS a week ago.

There are a few things I'm very interested in / curious about since I want to take care of my dream car the best I can but am not really knowledgeable about cars in general.

I noticed that the on-post dealership (I'm in the Army) offers a Ziebart treatment to the underside of newly sold vehicles and it's supposed to protect it from rust and etc, while reducing driving noise. I haven't asked how much it costs but am wondering if I should get such a treatment when I finally do get my camaro.

I'm particularly worried about the vehicle getting any rust. and although it won't be much of a problem in Alabama where I'll be when I get the vehicle, I've heard from a mechanic friend that when they salt the roads to get rid of snow and I drive over it, the salt causes the vehicle to rust and its a good idea to keep valuable cars in the garage during the winter if roads are salted.

If you have any tips/advices on keeping the camaro well maintained and looking new for a long long time, feel free to post
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Old 08-07-2009, 08:12 PM   #2
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I always thought of undercarriage treatments as scams...but what do I know? LOL
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Old 08-07-2009, 08:14 PM   #3
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Waste of money for MPO but to each his own. New cars dont need it. Driving on salt does suck just garage it as much as possible and wash the underbody well when you have to drive on it congrats and welcome yo the site
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Old 08-07-2009, 08:34 PM   #4
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I've seen some chevy avis rentals come from Hawaii - and the bottoms are all rusted on one year old cars. Bottoms, and exhausts. Looks NASTY!
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Old 08-07-2009, 09:20 PM   #5
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Hawaii you say, think about it. The Salt water, the salty air....it would be supprised not to see rust on them.
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Old 08-07-2009, 09:30 PM   #6
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Once upon a time....

many years ago when cars weren't using galvanized metal it was pretty much a given that if you lived in areas that had high humidity, salt air or road salt you needed something like Ziebart. I had it done to my Honda Accord back then and it worked. I usually keep my cars forever (usually at least 15+ years on average). Compared to the same year Accords, mine had no rust. [It does not protect rust from the outside - only from the inside out.] They drilled small holes in hard to get places and sprayed a parafin like substance that didn't get hard or melt away. They then put small plugs in the holes. You wouldn't know where it was done unless someone pointed it out to you.
Back then the guarantee was if it rusted from the inside out they would either fix it or refund the cost.
It is not the usual dealer supplied "undercoating".
None of us know how much galvanized metal is being used on the Camaro and where , so it comes down to how much is it worth to spend the money that you may not need to spend on it.
But it does work when there is little or nothing else protecting the metal.

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Old 08-07-2009, 09:32 PM   #7
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Hi everyone.

I've ordered a Black on Black 2LT M6 w/ RS a week ago.

There are a few things I'm very interested in / curious about since I want to take care of my dream car the best I can but am not really knowledgeable about cars in general.

I noticed that the on-post dealership (I'm in the Army) offers a Ziebart treatment to the underside of newly sold vehicles and it's supposed to protect it from rust and etc, while reducing driving noise. I haven't asked how much it costs but am wondering if I should get such a treatment when I finally do get my camaro.

I'm particularly worried about the vehicle getting any rust. and although it won't be much of a problem in Alabama where I'll be when I get the vehicle, I've heard from a mechanic friend that when they salt the roads to get rid of snow and I drive over it, the salt causes the vehicle to rust and its a good idea to keep valuable cars in the garage during the winter if roads are salted.

If you have any tips/advices on keeping the camaro well maintained and looking new for a long long time, feel free to post
Ziebart is an excellent product , my father had it done on his 4x4 and the truck is now 29 years old and still rust free, mind you he had to get some touch ups done on it in the last couple of years. As well, if you are close to the ocean (salty air) or live where they use salt on the roads, or even having your Camaro in a garage that is not properly ventilated, the cement will constantly release moisture under the car. I can tell you I am getting a Ziebart type protection on mine, that is for sure. The only drawback is that under the hood and trunk they use a wax base for rust protection, that wax base is a bit sticky and dirt will eventualy stick to the product.

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Old 08-07-2009, 09:39 PM   #8
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Old 08-07-2009, 09:45 PM   #9
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My brother bought a 1968 LeMans a few years ago. Thing had the ziebart plugs in the door jamb area.

We got it home and put it on a lift to check it out further. It was just dusty. It blew me away and sold me on Ziebarting.

I sprung for on my 2LT because I'm driving it year 'round. I didn't buy the "full dealer special" ($$). I just a la carted the rustproofing.
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Old 08-08-2009, 02:00 AM   #10
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My brother bought a 1968 LeMans a few years ago. Thing had the ziebart plugs in the door jamb area.

We got it home and put it on a lift to check it out further. It was just dusty. It blew me away and sold me on Ziebarting.

I sprung for on my 2LT because I'm driving it year 'round. I didn't buy the "full dealer special" ($$). I just a la carted the rustproofing.
how much did it cost? did you get it done at the local ziebart shop?
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Old 08-08-2009, 02:06 AM   #11
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This car does not need it as said the quality of the steel and they way GM is doing galvanization. Not only that some of that stuff could get on things or in places you don't want.
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As already mentioned, it's not really needed on new cars but if a person insists on getting it done, don't get it done at the car dealer. Go to a shop who undercoats cars for a living and have it done right.
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Old 08-08-2009, 09:53 PM   #13
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Owners manual says DON'T DO IT. May void your GM perforation warranty.
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Old 08-09-2009, 12:06 AM   #14
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how much did it cost? did you get it done at the local ziebart shop?
Yes, local Ziebart shop and $350 for undercoat and door jambs, rockers, bottom of doors, trunk, underhood, etc.
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Old 08-14-2009, 01:58 PM   #16
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I got the undercoating at the dealer, we have had this done on our trucks we have purchased from them they did a good job. I live in florida close to the beach so I want all the protection I can get. I think it was 350.00 but that came in a bundle with my auto butler I also purchased.
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