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Old 06-15-2014, 05:38 PM   #851
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Not sure if was mentioned earlier (too many posts to scan through) but what about the door lock, will it require changing too for the new key to match the ignition and door cylinder ??
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Old 06-15-2014, 05:50 PM   #852
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Not sure if was mentioned earlier (too many posts to scan through) but what about the door lock, will it require changing too for the new key to match the ignition and door cylinder ??

Every key has a code. That's what they'll use to make the new one. Nothing in the car will change , for now.
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Old 06-15-2014, 05:58 PM   #853
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Ya'll are dreamin'. You really think dealers have over a million keys in stock??? You can't just walk in and get a new key. Most dealers can't make the laser cut keys and they have to be ordered. NORMALLY that is about a 3 day process. Now...who knows.
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Old 06-15-2014, 06:03 PM   #854
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I just took a ride in the car and am still trying to figure out how you can actually shut it off while driving it. My knee is about a foot and a half away. But if you can knock the switchblade key out of position can't you also knock a regular blade key out of position. Doesn't the G8 use the same key? I have not heard about any recalls for that car.
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Old 06-15-2014, 06:24 PM   #855
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It may affect those who drive with their knees 90 degrees bent, and up close to the wheel like grandma, and it surely will not affect those who drive with the seat all the way back, gangsta style, driving position like Tupac even.

I'm 6 four height, my knee is far away from that ignition key, I'll be keeping mine.


Nonetheless, makes me wish I had keyless start button......hmmmm, time for a mid summer mod I think, hello DIY procedure.
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Old 06-15-2014, 06:31 PM   #856
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Well people wanted the Camaro to be more retro, now you get your wish...
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Old 06-15-2014, 06:33 PM   #857
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There is now way mine can even reach.
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Old 06-15-2014, 06:59 PM   #858
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Old 06-15-2014, 07:28 PM   #859
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Old 06-15-2014, 08:13 PM   #860
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That pushbutton start is sounding more and more like it would have been better after all. lmao
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Old 06-15-2014, 08:50 PM   #861
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That pushbutton start is sounding more and more like it would have been better after all. lmao
Somebody somewhere would screw that up too...
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Old 06-15-2014, 09:19 PM   #862
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Dear Johnathan from Chevrolet Customer Service;
This issue has occurred to me on three separate occasions and I have mentioned it to my service rep. I had wondered why a push button start had not been incorporated as in my other vehicle.

Nevertheless, the GM "Solution" is UNACCEPTABLE and will hopefully not be the "final solution". Please reply. This is a substandard replacement and not in line with the styling of the vehicle. As you have seen from this thread, there will be a negative response from many current owners. Please reconsider this solution and come up with a key that resembles the current key in quality and cost.

Thank you for your attention. A prompt reply will be appreciated.

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Old 06-15-2014, 09:29 PM   #863
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The loaner Sliverado I have right now has this. Trust me, you don't want it. I've owned a lot of GM vehicles over the years and this has got to be the worst designed FOB I've seen. I works, but it looks and feels like something you get in the crappy toy isle from the grocery store. The FOB for my 2008 Saturn Aura was better. Heck, the FOB for my 2001 Suburban is better.
Great, so it's almost a guarantee we'll get a crappy solution.
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Old 06-15-2014, 09:42 PM   #864
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I am scratching my head on this one. This recall must be for folks 7 foot tall. I am 5' 10" and I can't physically get my knee even close to the ignition.
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Old 06-15-2014, 09:47 PM   #865
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I think this only applies to a federaly mandated safety recall. This is a recall by GM, not the federal Government so this clause may not apply in this case.
I thought so to however the way it appears written, if a manufaturer notifies the NHTSA of a voluntary recall it has to fix the issue before it can allow cars to be delivered per 49 U.S. Code § 30120(i)(1)(a).

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(i) Limitation on Sale or Lease of New Vehicles or Equipment.—
(1) If notification is required by an order under section 30118 (b) of this title or is required under section 30118 (c) of this title and the manufacturer has provided to a dealer (including retailers of motor vehicle equipment) notification about a new motor vehicle or new item of replacement equipment in the dealer’s possession at the time of notification that contains a defect related to motor vehicle safety or does not comply with an applicable motor vehicle safety standard prescribed under this chapter, the dealer may sell or lease the motor vehicle or item of replacement equipment only if—
(A) the defect or noncompliance is remedied as required by this section before delivery under the sale or lease; or
(B) when the notification is required by an order under section 30118 (b) of this title, enforcement of the order is restrained or the order is set aside in a civil action to which section 30121 (d) of this title applies.
(2) This subsection does not prohibit a dealer from offering for sale or lease the vehicle or equipment.
http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/49/30120

And then 30118 (c) is where the manufacturer initiates the recall.

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(c) Notification by Manufacturer.— A manufacturer of a motor vehicle or replacement equipment shall notify the Secretary by certified mail, and the owners, purchasers, and dealers of the vehicle or equipment as provided in section 30119(d) of this section, if the manufacturer—
(1) learns the vehicle or equipment contains a defect and decides in good faith that the defect is related to motor vehicle safety; or
(2) decides in good faith that the vehicle or equipment does not comply with an applicable motor vehicle safety standard prescribed under this chapter.
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Old 06-15-2014, 09:56 PM   #866
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Old 06-15-2014, 10:22 PM   #867
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Think I could just get a key made?
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Old 06-15-2014, 10:39 PM   #868
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Yep me and the gf can't even get close and we had our 2ls cut off twice and no way I. Hell did my knee or hers touched it. So something sounds fishy to me my 1le has never jut caught off. So idk.
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Old 06-15-2014, 10:57 PM   #869
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Even worse, your accident involves another person, passenger, pedestrian, car, you are out in the breeze from a liability stand point even if the ignition had nothing to do with it. GM can say we tried, now you are a criminal in a US court.

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My only question is if you don't get this recall done and get into an accident, can the insurance company not pay you because your car was unsafe when the accident happened.
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Old 06-15-2014, 11:24 PM   #870
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I sat in my car today and I cant figure out how this happens. Maybe if the seat is up against the steering wheel your knee might get close but I am thinking if you are that close to the wheel your going to crash because you cant steer the car!
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Old 06-16-2014, 12:40 AM   #871
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Even worse, your accident involves another person, passenger, pedestrian, car, you are out in the breeze from a liability stand point even if the ignition had nothing to do with it. GM can say we tried, now you are a criminal in a US court.
Thank Allah I don't live in the US then, lol.
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Old 06-16-2014, 12:42 AM   #872
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Old 06-16-2014, 02:26 AM   #873
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if we like our key can we keep our key
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Old 06-16-2014, 03:03 AM   #874
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[ QUOTE=JCunningham;7747956]if we like our key can we keep our key[/QUOTE]


Yea that worked out great the last time I heard that line........
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Thanks GM, I'm good.
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