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Old 07-11-2014, 10:32 PM   #103
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Old 07-12-2014, 12:47 AM   #104
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Only managed a 13.6 tonight, DA was 3000. My IAT's were 120 starting out and never went below 100, even with meth spraying. No detonation, but the AFR below 5000 is destroying my runs. Runs too rich, then leans out and on the GoPro camera's you can see my car finally putting distance on my wife's Mustang.

I will post video's and time slips tomorrow, but next time I'm going to try a different tune, this tune is not working because it isn't constant.

Other news though, my wife ran into the 13's with her new tires. DA corrected she ran a 13.195 @ 107.132 with just bolt-ons.
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Old 07-12-2014, 12:55 AM   #105
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Only managed a 13.6 tonight, DA was 3000. My IAT's were 120 starting out and never went below 100, even with meth spraying. No detonation, but the AFR below 5000 is destroying my runs. Runs too rich, then leans out and on the GoPro camera's you can see my car finally putting distance on my wife's Mustang.

I will post video's and time slips tomorrow, but next time I'm going to try a different tune, this tune is not working because it isn't constant.

Other news though, my wife ran into the 13's with her new tires. DA corrected she ran a 13.195 @ 107.132 with just bolt-ons.
Over 9000# of boost can do that...
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Old 07-12-2014, 02:16 PM   #106
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Over 9000# of boost can do that...
Only 5# at that RPM, only managed 10# due to the intercooler heatsoaking badly. My IAT's were 121 then dropped down to 86 by 3rd gear. The car pulls hard and produces the boost when the intercooler is cold, track is a different story. I will research more and see what I find out. A V8 Camaro was running 14.1 @ 103, V6 was running 15.3 @ 93 mph last night. Think I even saw a 5.0 running 13.9's.
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Might be time for a different front end? SS or Z? Might help to run the AC when you're idling - that forces both fans to run. Just thoughts.
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Old 07-12-2014, 04:28 PM   #108
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Might be time for a different front end? SS or Z? Might help to run the AC when you're idling - that forces both fans to run. Just thoughts.
Front end would help, I can't run the AC at the track due to water condensation.

I've been thinking about doing the ACS T2 splitter with the Cool Rad option, it opens holes in the bottom of the bumper to allow more air in.
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Old 07-12-2014, 04:51 PM   #109
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One of the runs from last night:
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Old 07-15-2014, 01:49 PM   #110
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I have a digital gauge now and a boost sensor. It holds the max value which today was 12 psi.
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Just watching the video I can tell that yes, you probably would gain some with 3.91 gears.

Splitter would help definitely but you still aren't really changing the air into the grille. Though you'd have to change off of the V6 front end and Idk if you'd want to do that. I personally do, hence the Z or SS suggestion. Any other thoughts?

(Can you perhaps tune both fans to come on sooner or via switch perhaps?)
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Have you thought about one of those Co2 sprayers for the intercooler?

http://www.designengineering.com/cat...er-sprayer-kit

Seems pretty expensive for what it is, I bet you could make your own for a couple hundred bucks or less.
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I've moved my meth nozzles around to see if I can get around having to change aerodynamics and fan wiring. I removed the pre-supercharger one and placed it immediately after the intercooler, giving it the most time to cool. See how that works.

Also will try a different tune that is more constant, the one I have now jumps too much.

Once the tune is figured out it will he a good upgrade, I was running almost a 14:1 AFR due to a vacuum leak and only had 2 degrees of knock. The engine can run leaner than normal, gotta convince Arno of that though.
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I've moved my meth nozzles around to see if I can get around having to change aerodynamics and fan wiring. I removed the pre-supercharger one and placed it immediately after the intercooler, giving it the most time to cool. See how that works.

Also will try a different tune that is more constant, the one I have now jumps too much.

Once the tune is figured out it will he a good upgrade, I was running almost a 14:1 AFR due to a vacuum leak and only had 2 degrees of knock. The engine can run leaner than normal, gotta convince Arno of that though.
I will say good luck on that. From what I remember he tried leaning the engine out and it got weaker, so he keeps a relatively stock richness.
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I will say good luck on that. From what I remember he tried leaning the engine out and it got weaker, so he keeps a relatively stock richness.
My fastest speed with the stock pulley came with a 13:1 AFR. I run 10% ethanol to help control detonation, 100% gas would be detonating like crazy causing timing to be pulled, thus loss power.

I also run colder plugs too, helps out. I'm just going off the results from the track, my car gained 2 mph from a leaner run.

I really do need to run with the V60C1C7 tune, that has my fastest runs on the stock pulley. I will try either Friday or the 25th, make a 10 second run with my front wheels in the air while Def Leppard plays.
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My fastest speed with the stock pulley came with a 13:1 AFR. I run 10% ethanol to help control detonation, 100% gas would be detonating like crazy causing timing to be pulled, thus loss power.

I also run colder plugs too, helps out. I'm just going off the results from the track, my car gained 2 mph from a leaner run.

I really do need to run with the V60C1C7 tune, that has my fastest runs on the stock pulley. I will try either Friday or the 25th, make a 10 second run with my front wheels in the air while Def Leppard plays.
13:1 AFR seems reasonable. Theoretical highest power AFR is 12.6:1 and the car runs richer than that in stock form. I'm sure there's a bit left on the table.

Make it 9.9 seconds and blare Judas Priest.
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13:1 AFR seems reasonable. Theoretical highest power AFR is 12.6:1 and the car runs richer than that in stock form. I'm sure there's a bit left on the table.

Make it 9.9 seconds and blare Judas Priest.
Any song can blare if I can get a V6 to run in the 9's, it would piss off so many people.
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Fixed my intake pipe last night and this morning my methanol safe injection activated because I was barely in boost, so it was spraying below the parameters too long. The safe injection module worked, my boost didn't build over 2 till I punched it more to where meth activated more. Now that I know it works and the C7 tune feels great, I will be going to a 3.33" pulley if my times are good on Friday at the track.
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Old 07-16-2014, 01:04 PM   #119
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Just watching the video I can tell that yes, you probably would gain some with 3.91 gears.

Splitter would help definitely but you still aren't really changing the air into the grille. Though you'd have to change off of the V6 front end and Idk if you'd want to do that. I personally do, hence the Z or SS suggestion. Any other thoughts?

(Can you perhaps tune both fans to come on sooner or via switch perhaps?)
Off current topic but I thought interesting trivia-

On the new Z/28 they "gutted" the Chevy bowtie emblem on the front grill(now called the flow-tie). Chevy sez it increases flow thru the radiator by 88 litres per second (I'm assuming at 60mph).

Won't help our intercooler, but just interesting I thought.
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