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Old 06-22-2014, 04:25 PM   #26
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I haven't seen a modded SS on this forum that can compete with any modded ZL1,plus the drive train on the ZL1 is a lot stronger than the SS.
Compete in what????

If your talking about 1/4 mile runs only 1 bolt on has a better time then me and only 4 with bolt on and internals with better times. stock ZL1 best time is 11.71 And am #14 in cat 6. And am still on stock rear.
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Old 06-22-2014, 04:41 PM   #27
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If I had not bought either yet, I would start with the ZL1, if I was already +12k of mods on the SS, I'd continue down the SS path, I'm still under $50k on mine and I'm pretty happy with it. So, unless you have an emotional bond with your present SS, I'd go ZL1 probably used and start there. The warranty will be gone with the first mod anyway. I may own something else one day but my present SS ain't going anywhere.
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Unless it's a huge cost difference, I would go with the ZL1.
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Unless it's a huge cost difference, I would go with the ZL1.
Is $20K huge?
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Old 06-23-2014, 02:37 PM   #30
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I haven't seen a modded SS on this forum that can compete with any modded ZL1,plus the drive train on the ZL1 is a lot stronger than the SS.
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Old 06-23-2014, 02:57 PM   #31
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If starting from scratch go ZL1. Just a better platform to build off of.
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I ordered # 162 of the '12 ZL1's. When the first ZL1 came in and hit the dyno, it put down 460ish rwhp (auto). My Cam and header SS was putting down 470rwhp. After the Maggie, I'm right @ 600rwhp. After all my mods, I'm still $10k less invested in my fully loaded '10 than I would have been in the ZL1 before any mods.

Unless you can find a used ZL1 and get a killer deal on selling your SS, it isn't a good financial move to "trade up" to a ZL1. If you want a better looking car with more room to grow, that is a different story. But you are still blower limited on a ZL1, unless you are willing to pull it off and go a different route.

All that being said, I was going to make the move from my M6 SS to an A6 ZL1 to improve my times on the drag strip and would have had my dealership not tried to screw me with a "Market Adjustment".
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Old 06-23-2014, 04:47 PM   #33
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The ZL1 has a stronger drivetrain than the SS,if you can swing it get the ZL1.
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My other post has a lot of merit to it.



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Old 06-23-2014, 05:33 PM   #34
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Well, with all my mods + the purchase of my Camaro I'm right around the range it would have cost me to buy a ZL1, and I'm making MUCH more power than one.
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I haven't seen a modded SS on this forum that can compete with any modded ZL1,plus the drive train on the ZL1 is a lot stronger than the SS.
At SGMP 1/4 mile my 633 RWHP SS and your 754 RWHP ZL1?????
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Old 06-23-2014, 07:54 PM   #36
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It is nice to see SS owners get pissy when a better platform to modify shows up,you guys bitch like hens,I'm out play nice.
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Old 06-23-2014, 08:07 PM   #37
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LOL not pissy. What makes you say they can't compete??? As far as platform it come at a cost. My platform has served me well. You have a 121 more HP that should almost make it fair for you LOL
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Buh Bye....
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It is nice to see SS owners get pissy when a better platform to modify shows up,you guys bitch like hens,I'm out play nice.
Come on dude you are starting to sound like a vette owner
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Apparently, he doesn't know what he needs to know when he needs to know it.
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Hey man did you just do a new build on you car?
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Hey man did you just do a new build on you car?
Yep, swapped out the D1SC (too small for the cubes) and went custom twin turbos PT6766 ball bearing units. Tuned all the way up to 25 psi but only running 15 psi on the boost controller for now. Its pretty out of control above about 12psi. Still fine tuning the boost controller.

What's nice is that i can run anywhere from 4 psi all the way up to 25psi with the press of a couple buttons on the boost leash.
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OK sound like a good set up now. Am thinking of going turbo next year. But I want to see how much more I can get out of the whipple in good air with what I have done over the summer. Can't get much out of it with temp at 95+ here in north FL
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OK sound like a good set up now. Am thinking of going turbo next year. But I want to see how much more I can get out of the whipple in good air with what I have done over the summer. Can't get much out of it with temp at 95+ here in north FL
This was a big problem i had with the D1 at 14psi. It made 758whp and during the heat of the summer 100+ it just seemed flat.

Now with the twins set to 15ish (1053rwhp on the dyno at 15psi) it is still insanely fast and violent when the boost kicks in even at 100+ temps. I have the ramp rate dialed back quite a bit and its still pretty violent. i have noticed this huge intercooler is far more efficient than the one i ran with the D1. The inlets temps are 10-15 deg cooler than ambient when driving and when the boost sets in the temps plummet further due to the meth.

I cant imagine turning up the boost to 25.....but it's nice to know it's there if i ever feel the need! Just concerned with my RXT clutch and stock M6, so no sticky strip tires for me. Just the road course setup!


To the OP, looks like you have a tough decision to make. I say keep the SS and build the hell out of it! Good luck and have fun in the process
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I would supercharge my SS, buying a ZL1 seems like the easy way out. Adding a S/C to an SS seems a lot cooler and you can make it a nice sleeper.
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Hey Mr.Nasty, when are you going to come down to BMP to have some fun? I came up to SGMP for Pony Wars, maybe come down for Modern Muscle shoot out. I'm hoping to be closer to your times by then. Cant get better than my 10.625 in this heat but I keep trying! Thing I love about my ZL1 is that I'm driving it up to Canada next week from Florida, driving home, hitting the Tail of the Dragon on the way back then doing Runday Sunday at the drag strip two days later!
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Old 06-24-2014, 04:33 PM   #49
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Hey sound like a fun trip. Yeah I was in Palm Beach back in Nov of last year. TCC5 put on a good event at the PBIR track had a blast. As far as pony wars went for me it sucked it was like I was there for T&T had no class to run in. That day was running high 10.30 their was no 10sec class they stop at 11s and the fast 8 all but one car was running 9s.

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You and me both got shut out at Pony Wars! I think it is Sept 27 for modern muscle car shoot out
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