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Old 06-25-2014, 01:04 PM   #51
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Hey that might work. Of course then some people might get mixed up and assume use while driving as it dangled from the new key.
Hell or use it to clean their ears out and puncture their ear drums. I have heard that happening with regular keys...
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Old 06-25-2014, 01:06 PM   #52
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Hell or use it to clean their ears out and puncture their ear drums. I have heard that happening with regular keys...

Scary, ain't it....
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Old 06-25-2014, 01:09 PM   #53
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Scary, ain't it....
There will always be stupid people that do stupid things that screws up things for everyone else. As Ron White says "You can't fix stupid"
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Old 06-25-2014, 01:12 PM   #54
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BTW. I am 6'6" and I have never shut of my camaro with my knee.
I would have to somehow grow a new joint in the middle of my thigh bone that bends upwards to be able to shut off my car. If i can accomplish that, I could also grow wings so I can fly instead of needing to drive everywhere.
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Old 06-25-2014, 01:18 PM   #55
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There will always be stupid people that do stupid things that screws up things for everyone else. As Ron White says "You can't fix stupid"
Thats why they need to stop putting safety instructions on the simplest of things. That way we can thin out the numbers.
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Old 06-25-2014, 01:22 PM   #56
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Thats why they need to stop putting safety instructions on the simplest of things. That way we can thin out the numbers.
Like those little drying agent packets that come in some items that says "Do Not Eat". Maybe we should have a thread for Instructions only stupid people need.
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Old 06-25-2014, 01:23 PM   #57
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I dont think so.. But if you do hit your key by any chance while driving and crash.. it will be on you.
I'm more than ok with that.
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Old 06-25-2014, 01:23 PM   #58
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I like how GM provided a picture of a pin punch to inform the techs how to remove a drift pin. LOL
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Old 06-25-2014, 01:28 PM   #59
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I'm more than ok with that.
I only see it being an issue for those that get distracted and try to get things from the back seat while driving..
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Maybe we should have a thread for Instructions only stupid people need.
Start one. I'll meet you there.
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Old 06-25-2014, 01:30 PM   #61
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And the thread goes to nowhere.
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Old 06-25-2014, 01:35 PM   #62
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If you notice ... there is still no key part number. Dealers can't order parts without that number!!! WHAT A CROCK
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Old 06-25-2014, 01:47 PM   #63
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Since it's been decided it's a safety issue (no matter if you think it is or not) the company that makes it could also be held liable if there ever was an issue. I don't think anyone would want that responsibility.
All you need is a disclaimer at checkout that says:

By checking this box you understand that this product is for off-road use only and not intended for vehicles driven on roads. [X Company] are not responsible for use of our product nor are we to be held liable for anything that happens to you while using said product.
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Old 06-25-2014, 01:53 PM   #64
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i am not changing mine, i drove my car 12 hours the other day coming back home from hot rod power tour and out of boredom i tried and tried to get anywhere close to the fob in the ignition. nope. notta. i'm 5'7 and i seriously think maybe a very short person that drives with the seat all the way up may be the only issue here. my mom is 5 foot and drives a cts and i cant drive it with my knees up on the dash SMH.....
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Old 06-25-2014, 02:00 PM   #65
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So with this new key would we have to have the fob on us to start the car or is the chip in the key so we wouldn't have to carry both on us. Sometime it just handy with the key but would like to know if both would need to be present for a short drive for what ever reason
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Old 06-25-2014, 02:03 PM   #66
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So with this new key would we have to have the fob on us to start the car or is the chip in the key so we wouldn't have to carry both on us. Sometime it just handy with the key but would like to know if both would need to be present for a short drive for what ever reason
I think the chip is going to be in the key. The instructions call for the new keys to be programmed, as far as I know that would be the only reason.
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Old 06-25-2014, 02:22 PM   #67
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The recall instructions are very interesting as GM originally was going to send the dealers pre-cut keys matching with a car's VIN number, as a lot of dealers do not have the key cutting machines. So, if your dealer does not have the $6500 key cutting machine, then what? How do you get cut keys? Has anybody REALLY sat down and thought this recall through....guess not....
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Old 06-25-2014, 02:30 PM   #68
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The recall instructions are very interesting as GM originally was going to send the dealers pre-cut keys matching with a car's VIN number, as a lot of dealers do not have the key cutting machines. So, if your dealer does not have the $6500 key cutting machine, then what? How do you get cut keys? Has anybody REALLY sat down and thought this recall through....guess not....
From the posts on here I think the dealers cutting keys already are doing it on their own with generic blanks.
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Old 06-25-2014, 02:34 PM   #69
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I'm amazed they didn't change the cylinder to ensure customer doesn't use any additional keys they may have.

yea that is an ancient key with chip inside... my 2004's use that key.
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Old 06-25-2014, 02:38 PM   #70
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this recall should be for people over 7' tall only...
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Old 06-25-2014, 02:42 PM   #71
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has anybody considered a petition saying this fix is B.S. If they are going to do this, they need to do a quality fix. This is about as half-ass a fix they could do. They probalby doing it half-ass on purpose knowing nobody will want it and save GM money.
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Old 06-25-2014, 02:42 PM   #72
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I'm amazed they didn't change the cylinder to ensure customer doesn't use any additional keys they may have.

yea that is an ancient key with chip inside... my 2004's use that key.
With the reprogramming I bet all other key codes will be cleared from the memory so only the new ones will work. But the old ones if still available might be able to be reprogrammed in again. That is yet to be seen.
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Old 06-25-2014, 02:44 PM   #73
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this recall should be for people over 7' tall only...
According to GM in the wake of their investigative findings, it has a higher probability of being kicked off by drivers who move their seat to a more full forward and up position. As in ,shorter people.
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Class action law suit. Any lawyers on board?
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Old 06-25-2014, 02:49 PM   #75
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Class action law suit. Any lawyers on board?

Using Hondas class action lawsuit as a precedent.. we can deduce that we, the participants, would only be getting a few cents upon settlement. And the suits working litigation will get millions in lawyer fees.. however, I'm for it..


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