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Old 08-11-2009, 05:08 PM   #26
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Can't you lose performance with magnaflow?
?? Magnaflow is certainly better than stock. I suppose if you installed magnaflow and had a hole in the exhaust or something it could be worse...
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Old 08-11-2009, 06:49 PM   #27
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Scrming - How raspy is yours around climb-to-cruise from around 1500 to 3000 RPM ? I drove a Magnum Hemi with a Borla Catback system a few years ago and at idle it sounded great and when 'getting on it' it sounded great, but at lower speeds and climbs, sitting in the backseat was awful. I am just about sold on your install, but don't want that overly raspy vibration in the car at times, that just makes talking or music unheard. Can you give more detail on your sound above idle ?
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Old 08-11-2009, 09:07 PM   #28
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suave ..... that wud be sick if you can get the model number for the magnaflow exhaust. the first video where you have the aero turbine resonators. i really like that and it doesnt sound like it wud be expensive.
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Old 08-11-2009, 09:28 PM   #29
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I just got off work guys, and the shop is closed, but I will head over there first thing tomorrow morning and get it for you. I need to get my old parts back anyways. The install was pretty cheap about a bill for the res. and another 200 for the labor and 60 for the tips. I think the cheapest axle-back out is around 400, but that still leaves you with 2.25" pipe from your h-pipe to the axle-back and that didn't sit well with me. More CFM more HP. Same with the intake. G5CR intake is what I used, high flow oil-less filter like K&N and a CNC machined MAP sensor unit type holder thing-a-ma-bob. Paid 169 for that.
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Old 08-11-2009, 09:38 PM   #30
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I just got off work guys, and the shop is closed, but I will head over there first thing tomorrow morning and get it for you. I need to get my old parts back anyways. The install was pretty cheap about a bill for the res. and another 200 for the labor and 60 for the tips. I think the cheapest axle-back out is around 400, but that still leaves you with 2.25" pipe from your h-pipe to the axle-back and that didn't sit well with me. More CFM more HP. Same with the intake. G5CR intake is what I used, high flow oil-less filter like K&N and a CNC machined MAP sensor unit type holder thing-a-ma-bob. Paid 169 for that.
"more CFM more HP"

well... that maybe not be 100% accurate.

I'm guessing there is more restriction upstream in the cats and possibly heads...
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Old 08-11-2009, 10:09 PM   #31
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I just got off work guys, and the shop is closed, but I will head over there first thing tomorrow morning and get it for you. I need to get my old parts back anyways. The install was pretty cheap about a bill for the res. and another 200 for the labor and 60 for the tips. I think the cheapest axle-back out is around 400, but that still leaves you with 2.25" pipe from your h-pipe to the axle-back and that didn't sit well with me. More CFM more HP. Same with the intake. G5CR intake is what I used, high flow oil-less filter like K&N and a CNC machined MAP sensor unit type holder thing-a-ma-bob. Paid 169 for that.
From what I've been reading more CFM can mean less backpressure which can mean less low end torque and more higher end HP. Not an ideal trade off on this car.
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Old 08-11-2009, 10:29 PM   #32
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From what I've been reading more CFM can mean less backpressure which can mean less low end torque and more higher end HP. Not an ideal trade off on this car.
probably not going to be an issue if you keep the stock cats...
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Old 08-12-2009, 01:27 AM   #33
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Ill be dynoing it here soon and we can get some real numbers. I don't plan on changing the cats since no tuning is available on the ECM. Well, IMO going from 2.25 to 2.5 and back to 2.25 is kinda wacko, but then again it's chevy and from what ive seen and felt on this camaro it works.
I don't want to spend to much money swapping my exhaust for this one or that one. The Mag sounds and feels good so I may stick with it for awhile till I get the MBRP or boost. Then it's 3" all the way.

One thing I might do it remove the h-pipe and move the Mag close to the tranny to get my cross-brass back then add in some 40 series mags before the tips. But, thats after the 24" and 22" stagered, sport suspension and body kit.
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Old 08-13-2009, 04:48 PM   #34
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Been busy guys, but the part # on the Mganaflow is the 12568.
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http://www.magnaflow.com/02product/s...e=main&id=8204

My pricing on the MBRP S7020 cat-back kit for the V6 is $895 plus shipping.
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Old 08-13-2009, 04:58 PM   #35
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Thanks for the update man. I think the guy may be wrong though. Look at the picture of the muffler. He says its a 5x11 muffler? If the output pipes are 2.5" and say there's .5" on the outside on either side thats a total of 6". That means there would be a solid 5" between the two pipes and judging by the picture there is no way.

I really think this is the 5x8 muffler.
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Old 08-13-2009, 05:14 PM   #36
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Thanks for the update man. I think the guy may be wrong though. Look at the picture of the muffler. He says its a 5x11 muffler? If the output pipes are 2.5" and say there's .5" on the outside on either side thats a total of 6". That means there would be a solid 5" between the two pipes and judging by the picture there is no way.

I really think this is the 5x8 muffler.
I think you might be right.



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Old 08-13-2009, 05:44 PM   #37
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suavecito1177 - Any chance of getting some out of car take-off and drive-by videos?

I'm kind of digging the sound of that Magnaflow...it's kind of like the Corsa cat-back kit sound but not quite as clean or pure. But at 1/5th the price of the Corsa, I could live with it.

Any raspiness or drone with that setup?
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Old 08-14-2009, 01:04 AM   #38
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I'll get under the car tomorrow and meassure just to be sure. I was gonna get some drive-bys WOT and at cruising speed. Also some take-offs. She is actually starting to sound better IMO, she has a little more of a rumble between 2-3k.

Zero raspyness and haven't noticed any drone, but I'm always blasting some Nickleback or House.
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Old 08-14-2009, 01:13 AM   #39
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Sounds better with the magnaflow
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Old 10-06-2009, 01:23 AM   #40
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i wonder what it would have sounded like if you had the magnaflow where it is now and added the resonators where the stock muflers should be or if you had the aftermarket resonaters where the stock where and had to magnaflow muflers as well i think it would sound way different and would be real curious to hear it
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Old 12-03-2009, 12:54 AM   #41
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Anyone toyed around with the idea of the old vette look outside the body with exits before the rear tires? Can you say "Cherry Bombs"?

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Old 12-05-2011, 09:11 AM   #42
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Thanks for posting this thread. I have heard the video clip and sounds great on idle my opinion. Im currently looking into replacing my factory exhaust. I want an idle sound like that deep throaty as close as i can to let's say a V8, but don't want the raspy sound when im driving. But i just love when im sitting on idle to here the deep rumble sound.

what kind of set up would you recomned for header, to x pipe and exhaust etc... also i ran into a really cool product on the YouTube called a QTP Exhaust Cut out with wireless remote. WOW! so cool as you can turn it on and off when you want. Im wondering as to wht you guys think about the QTP ?? And what type of exhaust set up, and brand muffler is should get ?? To achive a deep thraoty V8 type sound on idle but with no rasp and back fire when driving on the hightway... also i ran into a video form Dyno max and they claim they have this worked out as far as very little rasp yet deep throaty sound on V6 on idle. I would love to hear a sound cluip of this on a NEW Camaro V6... to confirm.
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Can be pretty difficult to find an exhaust combo open enough to have a loud deep rumble at idle, yet not be outta control and have rasp when your getting on it.

A resonated X pipe or something very similar will basically be required to keep the rasp at a resonable level, but it will also mellow out the sound at idle. Also, mufflers like Magnaflow, Borla, and JBA do a good job at cutting the rasp, but on their own won't have the deep rumble you are looking for.

It won't be cheap, but basically to achieve this sound the best, your going to need long tube headers (OBX, BBK, ARH, SSW...take your pick), a resonated X pipe and muffler of your choosing, or a cat-back with resonator included (SOLO, ARK, Magnaflow and others)
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and op, if you ever decide to throw on a long tube header in the future you might want to keep those extra mufflers. right now those mflow x might be just right since its still somewhat subtle due to your factory header but once you remove that things will get raspy again unless you have something that will support the mflow x.
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Old 12-05-2011, 11:35 AM   #45
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The Magnaflows are pretty quiet set up with stock manifold, but they work really well with LT headers IMO.
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The Magnaflows are pretty quiet set up with stock manifold, but they work really well with LT headers IMO.
I thought that too but I remember when camaroc5 just used the mflow perforated x with his long tube and it was LOUD and raspy. I'm sure everyone has their own definition of what is loud and raspy but just something to keep in mind
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I thought that too but I remember when camaroc5 just used the mflow perforated x with his long tube and it was LOUD and raspy. I'm sure everyone has their own definition of what is loud and raspy but just something to keep in mind
Oh yeah I don't really think of the res x as a muffler, even though it is classified. I was refering more to magnaflow axle back. Just the res x may be loud without the LT's.
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Old 12-06-2011, 09:13 PM   #48
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i thought ar25 is supposed to be highflow. well anyway. someone one should try a highflow resonator with their axleback and see how it sounds.
Ar 25s w/MRT V1 (which are also AR25s)

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