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Old 08-09-2009, 11:24 PM   #1
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Stock Shifter Sucks!

Don't know about anyone else, but my 2-3 shift is horrible! I have shifted from 2 to 1 (instead of 3rd) probably 4 times in spirited driving..

I have owned quite a few T/A's and Camaro's and feel the stock shifter gate is simply horrible.

I had the Hurst shifter ordered, but had to dump it.

FIRST thing I am going to do is buy an aftermarket shifter. The stock one (again) is simply terrible for a vehicle of this caliber.

Anyone else share the same feelings and experiences?
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Old 08-09-2009, 11:29 PM   #2
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I'm on the waiting list for hurst aftermarket version not the gm hurst but my car was just built so haven't tried stock yet. Ripshift is out and is comparable to hurst and one of it's big selling points is never miss third again. I prefer the hurst name but there are a few shifters out already. Just don't get the ripshift from hennessy theirs is marked up.
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Old 08-09-2009, 11:41 PM   #3
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I finally picked up my car yesterday and I can say that during the first several shifts, I ended up in the wrong gear. Lately, I had been driving my VW Beetle and had gotten used to the long throws and gear spacing so shifting in the Camaro took a bit of getting used to. I find the Camaro shift throw travel to my liking and love the fat shift knob. But I think I would like the Hurst shifter evem more though.
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Old 08-09-2009, 11:48 PM   #4
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I agree. I have several 6-speed cars and have had several more. This might be the worst OEM shifter of them all. The 2-3 gate pattern is very exaggerated, has a lot of travel. I also don't like the squished baseball knob. Just feels weird to me.

Can't wait for another shifter to come out!
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Old 08-09-2009, 11:48 PM   #5
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It may not be the shifter. The rear trans mount is the weakest I have ever seen. When your under a load before you shift and then let off to shift the trans is moving but the shifter is attached to the body much like the BMW's. Its called the money shift.

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Old 08-09-2009, 11:54 PM   #6
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I have ran it through the gears pretty good and it didn't seem like a problem to me. I havent missed a gear yet and I have power shifted a few times. Although a short throw would be an upgrade, I will probably wait to do mine.
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Old 08-09-2009, 11:59 PM   #7
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I've had the 2nd to 1st thing happen in the worst possible times. Probably has happened about a hand full of times in a month of owning the car, but now not so much of a problem. I think it is annoying though, and as soon as the hurst is available I am going to upgrade for sure
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Old 08-10-2009, 12:18 AM   #8
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Don't know about anyone else, but my 2-3 shift is horrible! I have shifted from 2 to 1 (instead of 3rd) probably 4 times in spirited driving..

I have owned quite a few T/A's and Camaro's and feel the stock shifter gate is simply horrible.

I had the Hurst shifter ordered, but had to dump it.

FIRST thing I am going to do is buy an aftermarket shifter. The stock one (again) is simply terrible for a vehicle of this caliber.

Anyone else share the same feelings and experiences?
Don't have a cow its the rubber in the upper part of the shifter and you will love the hurst you will not have a lost shift any more.

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It may not be the shifter. The rear trans mount is the weakest I have ever seen. When your under a load before you shift and then let off to shift the trans is moving but the shifter is attached to the body much like the BMW's. Its called the money shift.

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Old 08-10-2009, 12:22 AM   #9
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I too will get the shifter. I am down for that group buy but haven't heard from anyone on it.

I don't like how mushy this one feels. My truck, old vw, and friends/familys' cars shifters feel better than this one...
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Old 08-10-2009, 12:41 AM   #10
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Don't have a cow its the rubber in the upper part of the shifter and you will love the hurst you will not have a lost shift any more.
Not quite having a cow...yet. Just that with four 4th gens under my belt and one with a B&M shifter (2002 T/A) and one with a Hurst shifter (1998 T/A), I am greatly dissapointed with the shifter feel...real "generic" with doubt in the shifts.

All four, at one point never had this shifter problem, all 4 were Tremecs and logged a total of 300k miles with all. Even the stock shifters had a better feel than the stock 2010 camaro has.

Just wished GM would have never dropped the LPO from the orders...Not that I anticipated this issue, just that the niceity of shorter throws with an engine 110 HP greater that my WS6 and having it ordered and installed would have made this issue irrelevant.

Can't wait for the Hurst shifters...I will be the first to order and will install it at no cost.
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Old 08-10-2009, 12:54 AM   #11
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Still shifts better than my work truck ! : )
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Old 08-10-2009, 08:56 AM   #12
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I can't wait for the Hurst shifter. Since I had the car I've done the 2 to 1 shift twice. Scared the crap out of me seeing the rpm's rev so high unexpectedlly.
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Old 08-10-2009, 09:08 AM   #13
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I've only missed it once and I'm not fabulous with a manual or anything. Maybe it depends on the individual car because I have a friend that is a lot better than me and he too has missed several times.
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I too will get the shifter. I am down for that group buy but haven't heard from anyone on it.

I don't like how mushy this one feels. My truck, old vw, and friends/familys' cars shifters feel better than this one...
Next week i will get the new upper for the factory look and let you know how it works out as for the time i think mid September for the shifters to start shipping that is 3 1/2 mouths from start to you getting the shifter.
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Old 08-13-2009, 02:22 PM   #15
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hurst units should be shipping early to mid september!
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Old 08-13-2009, 04:23 PM   #16
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I ain't trying to be ignorant or anything.But you guys who are missing gears should of bought automatics.I originally ordered a short throw myself.I've slammed the chit of gears and ain't missed any yet ,and I've got 3500 miles on my car.Good drivers compensate.Sure I'de love 50% reduction.But deal with it.You guys suck.
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Old 08-13-2009, 04:45 PM   #17
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I ain't trying to be ignorant or anything.But you guys who are missing gears should of bought automatics.I originally ordered a short throw myself.I've slammed the chit of gears and ain't missed any yet ,and I've got 3500 miles on my car.Good drivers compensate.Sure I'de love 50% reduction.But deal with it.You guys suck.
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Old 08-13-2009, 05:03 PM   #18
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Mine shifts fine! I was thinking about getting Hurst as I have had Hurst in 2 of my other cars, but I don't think I need it.
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Old 08-13-2009, 05:04 PM   #19
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I ain't trying to be ignorant or anything.But you guys who are missing gears should of bought automatics.I originally ordered a short throw myself.I've slammed the chit of gears and ain't missed any yet ,and I've got 3500 miles on my car.Good drivers compensate.Sure I'de love 50% reduction.But deal with it.You guys suck.
Easy man, I'm sure there are newbies that have missed gears but there are also seasoned vets that have missed them. You can express your opinion but lets leave out the you guys suck. We try to keep it pleasant around here.
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Old 08-13-2009, 05:19 PM   #20
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I've had my share of stick shifts. I kinda like this one. The knob is huge but when I drive hard I dont hold it I pull back with two fingers and push up with my palm open. When I shift from 2-3 the shifter snaps to the right by itself.

The only mis shift I have had was I am driving rather lazily and not paying attention to what gear I am in.

I do agree with the comment about the squished baseball feeling of the knob. I may just replace that and see how it goes. I think the distance of the throws is rather short however (compared to my '97 Cobra, '76 T/A or '81 Z28).
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Sorry if I offended you guys.But the fact is ,there is absolutely no reason to be missing gears in this car.If you are missing gears i would suggest taking your time for a few days or weeks or how ever long it takes to get use to the car.Could it be better ?Yes.But the fact is some people will never drive as good as others.I will never drive as good as a lot of other people.Oh and I have missed gears in my life.It's just been a helluva long time.
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Been driving my 1SS for 8 days now, have the short throw on order, but to be honest have yet to miss a shift, throw is kinda long but works fine for this Cougar, and I have been kinda bad this early pushing her, she screams.
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Old 08-29-2009, 05:15 PM   #23
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Hi,
I don't have any trouble with mine and I have been to the tracks 3 or 4 times. I think I have dozen of passes down the track and have power shifted each time, only missed third gear once.
I've had my drivers licence since 1980 and have been driving stick shift all the time. My opinion is that there is absolutley nothing wrong with this shifter.
What have experienced though, is that the trans is actually pretty stiff until it's up to operating temperature. I can feel a resistance shifting when the trans is cold.
Like attymf said: Pull with your fingers and push with the palm of your hand. Don't grab the shifter!
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Old 08-29-2009, 05:17 PM   #24
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Had the Hurst Short Trow on order but I don't think i'll need it!!
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Old 08-29-2009, 05:42 PM   #25
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Shifts just fine for me - better than a 70 Mach 1 (4 sp Toploader) and 64 Vette (4 sp Muncie) did...... It's a muscle car, not a BMW or Ferrari...
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