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Old 04-11-2008, 07:58 AM   #1
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I just realized this...

I don't think that the Camaro is going to have 400+ horsepower. If you think about it, once it gets to that range, suddenly it can compete with the Corvette. Do think this will be a problem?
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Old 04-11-2008, 08:08 AM   #2
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No.Because corvette base model has 430 hp, and zr1 has 620+ HP. Cadillac CTS -V has around 550 hp, XLR-V has 440 HP, pontiac G8 gxp has 400 hp. So i think camaro will have over 400 hp. Maybe later some version with over 500 hp.And i think corvette will be much lighter than camaro. Now if we are talking about future models (corvette according to rumors should get engine with less power, but also there is rumors about DOHC v8 just for corvette, and mid engine corvette so there isn't any firm information) we can't tell until C7 comes.
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Old 04-11-2008, 08:32 AM   #3
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No.Because corvette base model has 430 hp, and zr1 has 620+ HP. Cadillac CTS -V has around 550 hp, XLR-V has 440 HP, pontiac G8 gxp has 400 hp. So i think camaro will have over 400 hp. Maybe later some version with over 500 hp.And i think corvette will be much lighter than camaro. Now if we are talking about future models (corvette according to rumors should get engine with less power, but also there is rumors about DOHC v8 just for corvette, and mid engine corvette so there isn't any firm information) we can't tell until C7 comes.
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Old 04-11-2008, 10:10 AM   #4
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Old 04-11-2008, 01:15 PM   #5
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430 hp and being lighter should give the Vette considerable advantage over the Camaro. Plus don't forget the 400 hp benchmark comment came from GM not some random guy on the internet.
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Old 04-11-2008, 02:02 PM   #6
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Old 04-11-2008, 02:31 PM   #7
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Didn't Pops say that they had no problem with stepping on the Corvettes numbers??? or was it Lutz?
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Old 04-11-2008, 02:38 PM   #8
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Didn't Pops say that they had no problem with stepping on the Corvettes numbers??? or was it Lutz?
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The Camaro has always followed the base Corvette. Much of the time, it follows very closely.

Also remember that both have different purposes in the Chevy lineup. The Corvette is a flagship car with flashy exterior styling and a very basic, unimpressive interior. The Camaro is a pony car meant to compete with 4-seater coupes and larger sedans featuring a lot of power but also function for the average Joe. The Corvette is a weekend driver. The Camaro is a powerful means of doing what most people have to do—transport the family, get to work, cost as much as an economy. They both appeal to different market segments, so there is only a small overlap in the power department.
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No.Because corvette base model has 430 hp, and zr1 has 620+ HP. Cadillac CTS -V has around 550 hp, XLR-V has 440 HP, pontiac G8 gxp has 400 hp. So i think camaro will have over 400 hp. Maybe later some version with over 500 hp.And i think corvette will be much lighter than camaro. Now if we are talking about future models (corvette according to rumors should get engine with less power, but also there is rumors about DOHC v8 just for corvette, and mid engine corvette so there isn't any firm information) we can't tell until C7 comes.
Then what do you think is a safe guess? 420?
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Old 04-11-2008, 04:15 PM   #11
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I don't think that the Camaro is going to have 400+ horsepower. If you think about it, once it gets to that range, suddenly it can compete with the Corvette. Do think this will be a problem?
Rumor has it: Z06 will be taking a 2-3 year hiatus. ZR1 will be produced for the next 2 years or so while Camaro takes center stage.

First off, LS2 Corvette is about 39k and has 400 hp. Z06 has 500 hp and starts at 60k I think? Camaro comes out with 400 hp LS2 type engine and will be in the 30k neighboorhood and a 500hp SC engine in the 40K range (hope not that high).

So you are telling me you would much rather have a Corvette with 2 fiewer seets and 10k more?

I'll take my 400+ hp Camaro with 2 more seats for even 35k over a Vette with 2 seats and 400hp at 40k.
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Imagine if you could do that with a camaro just think something and the car responds! i know.... but still... I felt the need to let my thoughts be known
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Rumor has it: Z06 will be taking a 2-3 year hiatus. ZR1 will be produced for the next 2 years or so while Camaro takes center stage.

First off, LS2 Corvette is about 39k and has 400 hp. Z06 has 500 hp and starts at 60k I think? Camaro comes out with 400 hp LS2 type engine and will be in the 30k neighboorhood and a 500hp SC engine in the 40K range (hope not that high).

So you are telling me you would much rather have a Corvette with 2 fiewer seets and 10k more?

I'll take my 400+ hp Camaro with 2 more seats for even 35k over a Vette with 2 seats and 400hp at 40k.
Not to sound like a jerk, but it's been stated the LS2 will not be in Camaro. I'm sure this was just a typing error.
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if the Camaro comes out with 400 hp, base V8, it will get smoked by any and all 2009 corvettes. The Camaro will have 9.5 lb/hp (roughly), the Corvette starts at 7.5 and shrinks down from there. Not the same league. And corvetes also manage 0.95g or better on the skidpad. Thats the most we can expect from the Camaro.
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Old 04-13-2008, 08:43 PM   #16
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I remember reading an article when the Fbods were killed off in 02. It was car and driver or some rag of the sort. It was the writer's belief (and I cannot remember if it was his opinion or if he was basing it off of something) that the Fbods were being killed off because the Fbod buyers kept wanting it to be better and better (ie, more like a vette) and that the models had gotten so close that one of them had to go, and it wasnt going to be the flagship vette. I'm not saying I totally agree, because I have no idea, but I can see that point.
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Old 04-14-2008, 01:49 AM   #17
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Plain and simple...

Corvette has always been a flagship 2 seater coupe sportscar w/ tons of high tech stuff. Better susp, much lighter, etc, etc, etc.

Well, the Camaro was meant to be a 4 seater (^like said above) to be a daily driver go getter at a reasonable price.

All that is changing w/ the new Camaro. They've stepped it up. It WILL step on the toes of the Vette...at least the higher end model.
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