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Old 06-30-2014, 07:23 PM   #26
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FRS/BRZ are light, quick and good in the corners. And with a good driver are something to be watched.

I've auto crossed with a kid and his brand new FRS, the car was on point, the kid was meh, though the car pulled him through the course with some good times

And as for the spelling generally they use what you put on the sheet when you sign up, so maybe that Chev Camero owner on the bottom misspelled it.
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Old 06-30-2014, 07:57 PM   #27
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The first time I track a car, or the first time I am on a new track, you could time me with a sun dial. Without all the facts, these comparisons do not mean anything.
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Old 06-30-2014, 08:37 PM   #28
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YES, by far its the driver that counts also. When I track my car I have never been on a track, I am sure I will get passed, as long as I do not bend the $75k car. Give me some one else Z that does not care and I am sure I will do better.
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The first time I track a car, or the first time I am on a new track, you could time me with a sun dial. Without all the facts, these comparisons do not mean anything.
That's funny!

Look, tracking is all about fun and camaraderie. Everyone has a learning curve and that's that. Times improve as car control, confidence and consistency improve. Newbies are expected to be slow and trying to be fast before you've earned your skills only makes you slow Nothing better than a newbie who has left his ego at the gate and is ready to learn.

Running Time Trials or Club Trials is something *some* drivers choose to do after they have earned competency and car control skills. TT/CT allows folks to channel the competitive juices in a direction that is far safer and far lower cost than door to door racing which is a whole other animal. Not all event hosts offer timed events.

PS- I write the above for the benefit of folks thinking about going to the track, maybe for the first time, and worried that afterwards someone is going to post up "hey a Yugo smoked a Z/28 driver! What a loser!"...lol! It likely won;t happen and even if it does, who cares, and F'em! You were driving your car on a racetrack!
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Old 06-30-2014, 09:16 PM   #29
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The first time I track a car, or the first time I am on a new track, you could time me with a sun dial. Without all the facts, these comparisons do not mean anything.

LOL so true, I like the sun dial. I have had cars that you had to treat the opposite of others to make them do what you want. Things that made my last car work well at the track, would mean a trip out into the weeds, with the Camaro. Changing cars esp if your going up in power needs to be slowly approached.
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Old 06-30-2014, 09:47 PM   #30
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In WW2, Mustangs, though considered very maneuverable, didn't engage far slower Zeros at lower altitudes and slower speeds unless they were trying to get killed. With altitude and space, the Mustangs were untouchable by the Zeros. Which plane would you rather be flying?
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Old 06-30-2014, 10:37 PM   #31
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This isn't surprising. Many (including Jeremy Clarkson) have stated that a GT86 (BRZ) is the best driver's car out there, and can out-handle a MP4-12C, Exige S, M5, 911 Carrera S, etc...only to name a few. It's not always about horsepower.


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Old 06-30-2014, 11:09 PM   #32
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...and driver-car familiarity counts, as well. Best mod? Seat time...
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Old 07-01-2014, 11:04 AM   #33
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...and driver-car familiarity counts, as well. Best mod? Seat time...
"Best mod? Seat time." So true. When this mod is placed out of sequence, meeting the gravel or wall is not far behind.
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Old 07-01-2014, 11:34 AM   #34
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I've got a July 12th date with the Z28 and an unfamiliar track. No hero laps for me in the Z28. Might push a little harder in the SS. Although I've made so many changes to the setup I'll go easy at first too.
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Old 07-01-2014, 03:59 PM   #35
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I apologize for the way I titled my thread.. should have said "see local track results".
I am on your side. I have a new '14 ZL1 (that unfortunately has been at the dealership for the past week getting the entire diff replaced and looking for a rather large radiator leak that they can find no trace of... at 800mi) It's just all he heard for three months ZL1 this Z28 that. It's not even like him to even respond like this.
I'll tell you a far worse personal experience than the "track time thread". I am 59, have never personally been on a road course, have not been on a drag strip since I was 17.
I take my car out for some break in miles. Over the higher of our two passes to Lake Tahoe. On the way back I switch to the paddle's and am over the speed limit (not 100mph), but my wife is uncomfortable (seems odd.. she rides a '08 Ducati 1098S 8 month a year and has track time), again it's not the car it's the driver she is worried about.
Long story short, all the way down the pass there is some small, non high performance import right on my bumper. After about a 4500 ft desent I let off and this guy passes me. It's some Ford Focus or something like that. Obviously he has many more trips down this pass than I do.
So, I apologize again for the title or even posting this thread.
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Old 07-01-2014, 04:06 PM   #36
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I apologize for the way I titled my thread.. should have said "see local track results".
I am on your side. I have a new '14 ZL1 (that unfortunately has been at the dealership for the past week getting the entire diff replaced and looking for a rather large radiator leak that they can find no trace of... at 800mi) It's just all he heard for three months ZL1 this Z28 that. It's not even like him to even respond like this.
I'll tell you a far worse personal experience than the "track time thread". I am 59, have never personally been on a road course, have not been on a drag strip since I was 17.
I take my car out for some break in miles. Over the higher of our two passes to Lake Tahoe. On the way back I switch to the paddle's and am over the speed limit (not 100mph), but my wife is uncomfortable (seems odd.. she rides a '08 Ducati 1098S 8 month a year and has track time), again it's not the car it's the driver she is worried about.
Long story short, all the way down the pass there is some small, non high performance import right on my bumper. After about a 4500 ft desent I let off and this guy passes me. It's some Ford Focus or something like that. Obviously he has many more trips down this pass than I do.
So, I apologize again for the title or even posting this thread.
No worries It wound up being a fun discussion. Be sure to say hello if you see me around town or at the track. And go sign up to run with Hooked on Driving at Thunderhill. They'll get you on track and having fun.
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Old 07-01-2014, 04:08 PM   #37
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..And go sign up to run with Hooked on Driving at Thunderhill. They'll get you on track and having fun.
Speaking of which, who's signed up for Sept 27/28 at Thunderhill? Can't wait to get back on the full circuit again...
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Old 07-01-2014, 04:33 PM   #38
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Speaking of which, who's signed up for Sept 27/28 at Thunderhill? Can't wait to get back on the full circuit again...
I want to run with PCA (I'm still a member ) in two weeks at TH but I'll be honest with you- the 100+ temps are miserable for me. The late Sept dates have a good chance at being reasonable temps. Five mile course again too, hmmm, I'll more than likely be there. Let's do it! lol...
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Old 07-01-2014, 07:12 PM   #39
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At least you guys have tracks "near" you. The closest actual track to me is probably somewhere in southern Canada or Washington State.

My uncle lives two miles from Willow Springs. Every time I visit I drive past it, wishing I could enjoy it.
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Old 07-01-2014, 07:14 PM   #40
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I want to run with PCA (I'm still a member ) in two weeks at TH but I'll be honest with you- the 100+ temps are miserable for me. The late Sept dates have a good chance at being reasonable temps. Five mile course again too, hmmm, I'll more than likely be there. Let's do it! lol...
I agree about the heat! Wine Country Motorsports is having their annual 20% off sale, which has me tempted to spring for one of the cheaper CoolShirt systems.

Five-mile course irresistible. Should have my wickerbill installed by then; see you there! Hoping for flea-free hotel this time...
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Old 07-30-2014, 09:40 PM   #41
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Old 07-30-2014, 09:44 PM   #42
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I'm more concerned about "Chris Anderson" in his "Chev Camero"
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Old 08-01-2014, 10:39 PM   #43
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Meaningless I "waxed plenty of ferraris and Porsches. Yes the driver is very important, especially if its autocross or low speed twisty track.
I beat a Viper in a 120 HP spec Miata. Obviously he couldn't drive. lol
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