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Old 08-10-2009, 12:34 PM   #1
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First time on Launch control, tranny is dead

Well, last night I decided to try the launch control for the first time, re-read the book to make sure I was doing it correctly, and when I let out the clutch, there was a bang and no power transmitted to the rear wheels. My car is, to my understanding, not in the batch of cars that had this problem. When I get it back, I will never try launch control again and my guess is that it won't be offered for much longer given all the problems.
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Old 08-10-2009, 12:45 PM   #2
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GM was to call everyone that had the problem...that was a couple weeks ago I think??

Hate that it happened to your Camaro but at least it's under warranty still...I'd drop the hammer again in launch control too...they'll get it fixed sooner rather than later if it was happening to mine!
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Old 09-01-2009, 06:24 PM   #3
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I tried with my 2ss with automatic and it paused for about a second before it took off.

Held down on the button for 7 sec. disabled stabilitrack and traction control.
no pause, took off great.
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Well, last night I decided to try the launch control for the first time, re-read the book to make sure I was doing it correctly, and when I let out the clutch, there was a bang and no power transmitted to the rear wheels. My car is, to my understanding, not in the batch of cars that had this problem. When I get it back, I will never try launch control again and my guess is that it won't be offered for much longer given all the problems.
What is your vin range, 10,20,30K ?
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vin is over 34k had it little over a week.
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Old 09-01-2009, 10:13 PM   #6
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wow... over 34 and still the LC issue...

I'm so affriad to try it on mine... not much good weather left... I much rather drive it than have it sit to be fixed.
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Wow, that bad batch of trannies sure got around. I'm a little leary of trying mine, but I am going to try it in case I got a weak one. :( If it breaks, I am going to try it on the replacement too.

I can see someone learning to drive stick breaking a tranny without using launch mode, too much gas, letting the clutch out too quick --- BAM!! :(
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The guy who posted the 34k vin was not the OP.
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The guy who posted the 34k vin was not the OP.
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Old 09-02-2009, 12:57 AM   #10
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wow... over 34 and still the LC issue...

I'm so affriad to try it on mine... not much good weather left... I much rather drive it than have it sit to be fixed.

I am with you frankbeans. I want to know if I have the same issue. But running out of summer and the dealer I bought from is 200 miles away. (I will not let the local dealer touch it with a 10' pole).:(
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Old 09-02-2009, 01:02 AM   #11
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wow... over 34 and still the LC issue...

I'm so affriad to try it on mine... not much good weather left... I much rather drive it than have it sit to be fixed.
Mine is 22517 and I have yet to try.. I'm over 1000 miles driven..Waiting for 1,500 miles..I have contacted GM, have a case number..No call back as of yet..
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I still have yet to try mine as well. Heck, I tried getting my rpm's up there once and it redlined in no time. On top of that, IT IS LOUD AS HELL.....so everyone knows I'm trying the launch control...hehehe...

Yeah...I'll give it a shot later.
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Why hasn't anyone theorized that it could perhaps be something to do with the LAUNCH CONTROL itself? It seems that perhaps the power transfer is too much for the tranny to handle and the evu isn't modulating the power to give a good launch and not pop the shaft.

PEOPLE are able to launch by-foot and get good times, and not pop the output shaft...so whats up?
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Why hasn't anyone theorized that it could perhaps be something to do with the LAUNCH CONTROL itself? It seems that perhaps the power transfer is too much for the tranny to handle and the evu isn't modulating the power to give a good launch and not pop the shaft.

PEOPLE are able to launch by-foot and get good times, and not pop the output shaft...so whats up?
I don't care if Launch Control is working correctly or not. The transmission should not be breaking in a stock car. GM would be taking it on the chin if they designed it this way. Imagine all the broken transmissions they'd have to replace under warranty.
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Old 09-02-2009, 03:21 PM   #15
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I tried with my 2ss with automatic and it paused for about a second before it took off.

Held down on the button for 7 sec. disabled stabilitrack and traction control.
no pause, took off great.
The launch control is a feature of the manual transmission cars, your auto does not have it.
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Old 09-02-2009, 03:25 PM   #16
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I tried with my 2ss with automatic and it paused for about a second before it took off.

Held down on the button for 7 sec. disabled stabilitrack and traction control.
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The launch control is a feature of the manual transmission cars, your auto does not have it.
To add to that, LC is enabled by pressing the button twice and going into sport mode. Holding it down turns everything off, including launch control (which the auto doesn't have). To be honest, if you did that and mashed the gas, you shouldn't have taken off "great"... shoulda been lots of tire slippage.
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Old 09-02-2009, 04:20 PM   #17
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I don't care if Launch Control is working correctly or not. The transmission should not be breaking in a stock car. GM would be taking it on the chin if they designed it this way. Imagine all the broken transmissions they'd have to replace under warranty.
I understand what you're saying...and agree that all parts of the car should be designed to work together and with a built in margin of tolerance. However if you took ANY higher performance car and revved up to 5-6k in the rpm's and popped the clutch, what do you propose would happen?

When drivers launch a car they're not trying to put all the torque into the drivetrain in one massive blow...they're modulating the clutch so that power is transferred quickly but smoothly to maximize take-off. Otherwise stuff breaks. It's pretty common knowledge.

Even though GM and the dealers are chaulking these up as a metalergy problem...it seems as if there might be something else to it.

But yea...I know what you're saying. Hell, I almost bought a 2008 GT500 today for a great price because I wasn't willing to deal with something like this in my SS m6. I don't want a car (first year run or not) that can't sustain its own power through the drivetrain.
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Just an after thought here. For those getting ready to test the LC, DON'T do it if you've had a performance tune installed. You likely readjusted the rev limiter. WOT could be expensively painful if that is the case.
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I still have yet to try mine as well. Heck, I tried getting my rpm's up there once and it redlined in no time. On top of that, IT IS LOUD AS HELL.....so everyone knows I'm trying the launch control...hehehe...

Yeah...I'll give it a shot later.
When you do get someone to make a vid! lol Love seeing your car in action.
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could the current SS constraint be tied to the transmission availability, due to replacements?
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this will be my first car i buy brand new i'm not worried about anything if something goes wrong GM will fix it / side note) can we have the same tranny from the vette plz!
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When drivers launch a car they're not trying to put all the torque into the drivetrain in one massive blow...
Unless we are using the factory installed launch control feature.

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they're modulating the clutch so that power is transferred quickly but smoothly to maximize take-off. Otherwise stuff breaks. It's pretty common knowledge.
Well because GM included launch control, obviously they knew how the cars could/would be launched at times. Having strong enough powertrain to handle it only seems smart to avoid unhappy customers and the associated warranty costs. I don't know how much beefier internals would cost, but I can't imagine it would be too much more having them when the tranny is built in the first place.

I just hope the tranny is strong enough and that it is just a bad batch from Tremec. :(
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Me too my friend. The is the most disconcerting part of purchasing this Camaro. How can I be confident in the car if I'm always wondering about the tranny breaking?

I'm getting VERY close to buying a GT500 instead because of the problems I've been reading about with this first year's run. Maybe come back a couple years later when the kinks have been ironed out. We'll see.
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Me too my friend. The is the most disconcerting part of purchasing this Camaro. How can I be confident in the car if I'm always wondering about the tranny breaking?

I'm getting VERY close to buying a GT500 instead because of the problems I've been reading about with this first year's run. Maybe come back a couple years later when the kinks have been ironed out. We'll see.

well, the GT500 has the TR6060 too...yes, I know it's a slightly different version, but fact is, it's not a great transmission. So, if you want to spend $50K on a mustang, fine, but you'll probably still worry about the tranny breaking. ALSO, it seems there's no newer vin#'s with broken tranny's...so we still have to assume that it's been addressed.
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True...but no one on the GT500 forums is having any problems with their trannies even at 700 hp. We're having problems with guys who are stock and shifting from 2nd to 3rd.
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