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Old 08-10-2009, 03:37 PM   #1
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PLEASE BOYCOTT ANY DEALER ASKING OVER MSRP

I just spoke with Superior Chevrolet in Lawrenceville, NJ about a car they had in stock.

They wanted to inform me that ALL dealers are charging a minimum of $5,000 over MSRP and if they are not they are stupid.

So I ask you this - please boycott any dealer that is asking over MSRP - there is already plenty of profits there as well as manufacturer hold back that they are being paid. Do not allow them to rip you off or think that what they are doing is acceptable - if you have a moment call into the GM consumer hotline with the name of the dealer, salesman and the price they tried to charge you so that you can file a complaint. We the tax payers are the ones that are paying the bill to see that they can sell these cars and they have the nerve to attempt to rip us off in return.

Please feel free to post a list of the rip off dealers in this thread that all forum members should know to boycott for ANY Chevrolet purchase.
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Old 08-10-2009, 03:42 PM   #2
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I've been called worse, especially from dealers, back in July of 2008 when I said we'd sell them ALL for MSRP (or less)!

Sticks n stones...... Bring it!
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Old 08-10-2009, 03:43 PM   #3
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Jerry's Chevrolet in Weatherford, Tx had them listed for 7k over MSRP. Fortunately I know one of the salesman who has been there forever and sold it to me for regular price.
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Old 08-10-2009, 03:45 PM   #4
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Please keep the list going - we need to call out all these thieves and maybe GM headquarters will take some action when they see the bad press they get from this.
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Old 08-10-2009, 03:45 PM   #5
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I agree with your post with the Exception of

"We the tax payers are the ones that are paying the bill to see that they can sell these cars and they have the nerve to attempt to rip us off in return."

We loaned GM Corporation money, they have no control over what a privately owned dealer charges. But yes do boycott dealers charging over msrp.
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Old 08-10-2009, 03:47 PM   #6
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Talwell there is already an ongoing list on this topic.
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=622
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Old 08-10-2009, 03:47 PM   #7
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Request Granted!

I did it just today to a dealership in Missouri. I was going to travel 5.5 hours to buy the car but not at the inflated price he finally quoted me!

See: http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showpo...&postcount=295
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Old 08-10-2009, 03:50 PM   #8
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That is true - they do not have control over what a privately owned dealer charges.

I used to be part of a franchise - they do have the ability to set limits, rules, regulations and such that each franchise must adhere to.
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Old 08-10-2009, 04:20 PM   #9
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Well said. Glad to have reps like you scotty!
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Old 08-10-2009, 06:46 PM   #10
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I've been called worse, especially from dealers, back in July of 2008 when I said we'd sell them ALL for MSRP (or less)!

Sticks n stones...... Bring it!
I respect you for that, Scotty. My dealer honored my pre-order MSRP, but that is as far as it goes for them. Wouldn't take the credit union discount on the Camaro, though he does on all other cars. He tried to make me think I was getting a good deal, because everyone is charging $5,000+ over MSRP. I told him that wasn't true. He had 2 on the lot for $7,000 over, and he sold them. Pretty much told me if he'd known the market when I ordered, I wouldn't have gotten it at pre-order pricing. The one thing good I have to say is that he had the integrity to honor our agreement.
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Old 08-11-2009, 04:01 PM   #11
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Stevenson Chevy in Golden,Colorado added $7500 to the price of a Orange 2SS/RS but said that they would order & sell you one at MSRP. Basically kept my Dad from buying one on the spot- and he isn't the kind of person who would wait months for one either.
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Old 08-11-2009, 04:02 PM   #12
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Sounds like the dealers in SAn Diego - Order at MSPR - and wait and wait and wait, or pay $3K on up for one on the lot (good luck) or coming in...
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Old 08-11-2009, 04:13 PM   #13
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I've had tons of people look at my car everyday, and at car shows. When they seriously talk about price and ordering, I make darn sure they know which dealers are charging MSRP and which ones are over charging. They can then make any stupid or sensible decision they want!
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Lucas Chevrolet in Mount Holly, NJ has a 2SS in Orange with the 21" wheels and GFX Package ABOUT to be installed for $50,000. NO RS Package and he tried telling me that everyone is marking them up like that. Once I started talking and he found that I KNEW what was goin on he started to stutter.. A LOT... LOL! He tried telling me that the deal was so good because you get the factory wheels AND the 21's.. Still not worth 50k especially with no RS Package.
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Old 08-13-2009, 12:57 AM   #15
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Lucky for all those that are still waiting to order thier cars - dealers being able to sell the cars over MSRP have limited days and customers left.

eBay used to be ripe with people paying huge money over MSRP on cars just to get them immediately - now the only cars selling are the unique ones that are being sold at MSRP.

I called about a used car in my area yesterday - the owner told me he paid $39k for the car which was $2k over sticker. He was asking $41k for the car and told me that if I did not want it that he could sell it easily on ebay for over $40k. Once I told him how to check the completed listings on eBay of the cars that did sell he came back first telling me he would sell at MSRP and then said he would do better than MSRP.

Thanks to Camaro Scotty he helped find me a dealer that has an allocation order going in tomorrow and they are just a short distance from Canada so all cars come to them directly via truck. They are averaging about 6 weeks from order to delivery. This dealer not only has the allocation ready to go in but they will sell to me at MSRP.

Thanks Scotty and may all the dealers asking over MSRP have thier franchises closed next year when the New GM takes over and leaves you behind.
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Old 08-13-2009, 01:03 AM   #16
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Old 08-13-2009, 03:17 PM   #17
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Lucky for all those that are still waiting to order thier cars - dealers being able to sell the cars over MSRP have limited days and customers left.

eBay used to be ripe with people paying huge money over MSRP on cars just to get them immediately - now the only cars selling are the unique ones that are being sold at MSRP.

I called about a used car in my area yesterday - the owner told me he paid $39k for the car which was $2k over sticker. He was asking $41k for the car and told me that if I did not want it that he could sell it easily on ebay for over $40k. Once I told him how to check the completed listings on eBay of the cars that did sell he came back first telling me he would sell at MSRP and then said he would do better than MSRP.

Thanks to Camaro Scotty he helped find me a dealer that has an allocation order going in tomorrow and they are just a short distance from Canada so all cars come to them directly via truck. They are averaging about 6 weeks from order to delivery. This dealer not only has the allocation ready to go in but they will sell to me at MSRP.

Thanks Scotty and may all the dealers asking over MSRP have thier franchises closed next year when the New GM takes over and leaves you behind.
Why blame the dealers? Even though they may lie and say everybody sells them over MSRP, it's the STUPID CUSTOMERS that are to blame, because they pay too much and don't shop around. NOBODY on Camaro5 should be paying more than MSRP now. Discounts are closer than you think- I am seeing these Camaros on the road a lot more now.
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Old 08-13-2009, 03:38 PM   #18
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JUST got told by a dealer in Southern CA that GM did the dealers wrong and they are only making about $900 on the loaded 2SS Camaros, so they are justified in charging $5 - $10K over! I told him, thanks, no thanks...Geez
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Old 08-13-2009, 03:49 PM   #19
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Its funny. People seem to forget the laws of supply and demand when it comes to cars.

Market value price is adjusted based on the demand for an item, amongst other things. At the same time, an item is only worth as much as someone is willing to pay for it. So if the perceived demand is allowing for sales at 5k over MSRP -- than that is indeed the market value for the vehicle.

We've just been lucky that not all dealers are doing that. I personally cannot fault a dealer for trying to make a profit, its business after all. However the profit needs to be commensurate with the reality of the demand. This car has a lot of hype and buzz, and that is a function of the price gouging you see. It's not necessarily reality until someone makes it a reality.

Keep boycotting those dealers, and you will soon see no more of the price gouging. Tell those rich folks in your area to quit enabling the dealers as well!
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I SO wish they (everyone) would stop paying the ridiculous prices! It is making it hard to get a good deal. These dealers are telling me they're getting 4-6 cars a week - ALL going for over MSRP!! ARGH!!
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Well, Courtesy Chev in San Diego now has 3 SS Camaros sitting on the lot, unspoken for. All have a tag: $5K "Market Adjustment"! I just got my credit back from my refund. Now I ordered another one yesterday thanks to you great guys on the forum!

It's already at 3400 but the invoice doesn't list the full order number Jusr SRE - Retail. Working on getting it today. So a short 450 mile break-in after picking it up!
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BOTH OF THE DEALERS IN MY AREA JUST CHARGE MSRP
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Old 08-14-2009, 01:27 PM   #23
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Well, Courtesy Chev in San Diego now has 3 SS Camaros sitting on the lot, unspoken for. All have a tag: $5K "Market Adjustment"! I just got my credit back from my refund. Now I ordered another one yesterday thanks to you great guys on the forum!

It's already at 3400 but the invoice doesn't list the full order number Jusr SRE - Retail. Working on getting it today. So a short 450 mile break-in after picking it up!
How are you at 3400 after one day? Did you assume someone else's order?
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Well, Courtesy Chev in San Diego now has 3 SS Camaros sitting on the lot, unspoken for. All have a tag: $5K "Market Adjustment"! I just got my credit back from my refund. Now I ordered another one yesterday thanks to you great guys on the forum!

It's already at 3400 but the invoice doesn't list the full order number Jusr SRE - Retail. Working on getting it today. So a short 450 mile break-in after picking it up!

There is another thread for posting dealership warnings for market adjustments. Everyone on this thread should check it out.

Foothill Ranch Chevy is sitting on seven 2SS's all marked up to around $52,xxx to $55,xxx

If you really want to purchase a Camaro at, around, or under MSRP you need to call out the dealer and tell them how much you're going to pay.

When companies screw me over I tell them that one bad customer experience used to mean 9 bad referrals and now I can tell thousands of people instantly how horrible their company is and to spread the word to all their friends through all of the networking websites.
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Old 08-14-2009, 01:42 PM   #25
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Scotty and I are going to be laughing soon - wait until the winter months come and they are still sitting on those cars and cannot sell for $5k under MSRP.

It is all about karma - they are desiring short term profits to enrichen themselves but are forgetting that everyone will remember the treatment they got or the attitude that they employed during this shortage of cars.

It is no longer 1985 where you had to go to your local dealer to get a car - with the internet today you can get a car from around the corner or from around the world. I for one have not purchased a car within 500 miles of my house within the last 8 years. The dealers today need to adjust to this atmosphere and build thier business on the service they offer, the price they charge and the treatment they give thier customers.
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