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Old 10-14-2009, 07:14 AM   #1
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Must be bad to be a camaro owner...

Wait wait wait! Before you get angry, this topic was made in jest! What I really mean is, you guys seem to be fighting a battle on both fronts. On one side, you have the mustang crowd and on the other, you have the challenger crowd.

Props for keeping it civil and debating rationally and not letting it turn into a flame fest over here at camaro5.

The new camaro has sold well and im interested in seeing what the future holds for this revised line of autos. Myself, when the camaro first came out, I wanted one. They just looked awesome. But as time went on, and the 2010 mustang came out, it really started to catch my eye, and thus, I went in that direction.

I have been intrigued that the mustang has done so well when pitted against the camaro, and the next few years is going to be some good "one upping". If the camaro gets revamped suspension and the mustang gets a bigger motor, looks like there is going to be some serious competition, and that seems like it is going to be fun.

I would like to see the mustang come out with something in the 6.0 ltr supercharged engine, and I would like to see the camaro come out with a 6.2 ltr supercharged as well, and shed some weight and then get a reworked suspension...that would make for some interesting races.

Anyway, I just wanted to come by and say "keep up the good work" and have a friendly discussion on what could be a great rivalry in the near future.
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Hahaha, guess you have not been here very long. I have been given warnings, and have been banned for innocent comments. One warning was for calling someone a idiot or moron, due to the fact they were starting crap. Can't remember the 2nd warning. The reason I was banned was because a member here "bought" a zr1, and I said it was stupid for a person to pay 110k for a car that can be had for so much less if you want the same performance. It was an opinion, so if someone takes offense to that it's sad. Thats my lil piece on here. About the civilality here, I have seen way too many bad mouth fords. Of course its a chevy community, but if a car can simply beat yours stock for stock, give it props and move on. No need to bash it. Mind you mods and admins joined in to bash. However, when I stood up for the other cars I got threatened by being banned. Don't know how well this place will treat you dude, but good luck. I am at the point where I can care less if I am banned from here or not. If I am banned after this post, then be it, but it will show what kind of community is being ran here.
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Wait wait wait! Before you get angry, this topic was made in jest! What I really mean is, you guys seem to be fighting a battle on both fronts. On one side, you have the mustang crowd and on the other, you have the challenger crowd.

Props for keeping it civil and debating rationally and not letting it turn into a flame fest over here at camaro5.

The new camaro has sold well and im interested in seeing what the future holds for this revised line of autos. Myself, when the camaro first came out, I wanted one. They just looked awesome. But as time went on, and the 2010 mustang came out, it really started to catch my eye, and thus, I went in that direction.

I have been intrigued that the mustang has done so well when pitted against the camaro, and the next few years is going to be some good "one upping". If the camaro gets revamped suspension and the mustang gets a bigger motor, looks like there is going to be some serious competition, and that seems like it is going to be fun.

I would like to see the mustang come out with something in the 6.0 ltr supercharged engine, and I would like to see the camaro come out with a 6.2 ltr supercharged as well, and shed some weight and then get a reworked suspension...that would make for some interesting races.

Anyway, I just wanted to come by and say "keep up the good work" and have a friendly discussion on what could be a great rivalry in the near future.
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Hahaha, guess you have not been here very long. I have been given warnings, and have been banned for innocent comments. One warning was for calling someone a idiot or moron, due to the fact they were starting crap. Can't remember the 2nd warning. The reason I was banned was because a member here "bought" a zr1, and I said it was stupid for a person to pay 110k for a car that can be had for so much less if you want the same performance. It was an opinion, so if someone takes offense to that it's sad. Thats my lil piece on here. About the civilality here, I have seen way too many bad mouth fords. Of course its a chevy community, but if a car can simply beat yours stock for stock, give it props and move on. No need to bash it. Mind you mods and admins joined in to bash. However, when I stood up for the other cars I got threatened by being banned. Don't know how well this place will treat you dude, but good luck. I am at the point where I can care less if I am banned from here or not. If I am banned after this post, then be it, but it will show what kind of community is being ran here.
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so far i've been treated fair by everyone here. i dont go out of my way to try and offend anybody, and no one has done that to me directly. so no complaints here!
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so far i've been treated fair by everyone here. i dont go out of my way to try and offend anybody, and no one has done that to me directly. so no complaints here!
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Old 10-14-2009, 04:14 PM   #8
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Well, appreciate the kind comments. I like reading posts of people comparing the different makes of cars. Obviously people dont want to think their car can be blown away by another, and thus they defend them.

I've seen some of the ford trash talking here, it doesnt bother me. To each their own. Ive seen the camaro, it's a good looking car, but I prefer the mustang over it, as i do over the challenger. Everyone has their own likes and dislikes. Ive seen reviews that show the camaro over the mustang, ive seen reviews that show the mustang over the camaro. I'd like to think that a mustang could hold its own vs. a camaro, and I think it does, some may differ there. I guess it's all in everyones individual experiences.

I personally dont really race. Ive been to the track a couple times in another car...raced it about 3 times down the strip just to see what I could do and that was fine for me. I may take the stang there also to see what I can do...but other than that, i just drive the car normally...maybe the "punch it" every now and then just to feel the power

However, for those that DO race, The next year or two will prove to be some really competitive years. Once GM and ford release some hard numbers for their upcoming cars, these forums will be abuzz with all kinds of talk, and those will make for some interesting, hopefully civil, discussions.

So, with that said, what do you guys/gals really think will happen with the camaro? I myself would expect suspension tweaks to start with. After reading some threads here, some people have suggested that the V6 version still has some room to improve. With the 2011 mustang V6 coming out with 300+ hp, I would imagine that chevy will let some of that improvement out. I dont, however, see a supercharged version coming out anytime soon, but then, I could be wrong (has happened before ).

As far as the mustang goes, I dont see ford replacing the live axle anytime soon. However, I have heard that the solid rear axle is actually an advantage on the track...any truth to that? The 5.0 seems to be a sure thing in the mustang so that will be something for the ford people to look forward to.

Curious though, does the camaro come with a CAI like the ford? Also, im sure the camaro comes with dual exhaust...what about headers? Maybe that's something GM could possibly look into for the 2011 year...factory long tube headers to come stock on the SS models? If it doesnt come with CAI, that's another thing they could do, along with a performance tune straight from the factory? Dunno, just thinkin here.

Your thoughts?
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Hahaha, guess you have not been here very long. I have been given warnings, and have been banned for innocent comments. One warning was for calling someone a idiot or moron, due to the fact they were starting crap. Can't remember the 2nd warning. The reason I was banned was because a member here "bought" a zr1, and I said it was stupid for a person to pay 110k for a car that can be had for so much less if you want the same performance. It was an opinion, so if someone takes offense to that it's sad. Thats my lil piece on here. About the civilality here, I have seen way too many bad mouth fords. Of course its a chevy community, but if a car can simply beat yours stock for stock, give it props and move on. No need to bash it. Mind you mods and admins joined in to bash. However, when I stood up for the other cars I got threatened by being banned. Don't know how well this place will treat you dude, but good luck. I am at the point where I can care less if I am banned from here or not. If I am banned after this post, then be it, but it will show what kind of community is being ran here.
After a post filled with attitude like this one.... I think I know why you got warnings and banned. Why would anyone want this kind of attitude in their community?
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Hahaha, guess you have not been here very long. I have been given warnings, and have been banned for innocent comments. One warning was for calling someone a idiot or moron, due to the fact they were starting crap. Can't remember the 2nd warning. The reason I was banned was because a member here "bought" a zr1, and I said it was stupid for a person to pay 110k for a car that can be had for so much less if you want the same performance. It was an opinion, so if someone takes offense to that it's sad. Thats my lil piece on here. About the civilality here, I have seen way too many bad mouth fords. Of course its a chevy community, but if a car can simply beat yours stock for stock, give it props and move on. No need to bash it. Mind you mods and admins joined in to bash. However, when I stood up for the other cars I got threatened by being banned. Don't know how well this place will treat you dude, but good luck. I am at the point where I can care less if I am banned from here or not. If I am banned after this post, then be it, but it will show what kind of community is being ran here.
all the mods play god here. Right with you about them bashing with the rest, but when they do it it's ok. Plain and simple power mongers. Haven't been banned yet, but oh me it would be real hard to come back as another poster.
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Hahaha, guess you have not been here very long. I have been given warnings, and have been banned for innocent comments. One warning was for calling someone a idiot or moron, due to the fact they were starting crap. Can't remember the 2nd warning. The reason I was banned was because a member here "bought" a zr1, and I said it was stupid for a person to pay 110k for a car that can be had for so much less if you want the same performance. It was an opinion, so if someone takes offense to that it's sad. Thats my lil piece on here. About the civilality here, I have seen way too many bad mouth fords. Of course its a chevy community, but if a car can simply beat yours stock for stock, give it props and move on. No need to bash it. Mind you mods and admins joined in to bash. However, when I stood up for the other cars I got threatened by being banned. Don't know how well this place will treat you dude, but good luck. I am at the point where I can care less if I am banned from here or not. If I am banned after this post, then be it, but it will show what kind of community is being ran here.
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all the mods play god here. Right with you about them bashing with the rest, but when they do it it's ok. Plain and simple power mongers. Haven't been banned yet, but oh me it would be real hard to come back as another poster.

As for not caring about whether you're banned or not, you obviously do if you reregistered

It's a free country tom, you know how it works. If you don't like how the game is played, trot on over to a different playground. I haven't been on here for very long. I've been involved in some fairly heated debates here and on another (Challenger) site. The mods here seem to be a lot more fair about things and wait to see how things will play out, kind of like ref's in a hockey game.
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LOL, to the OP hi. To others, it's a PRIVATELY owned board. The person who runs it therefore can set moderator rules as the owner sees fit. Nothing to complain about, there are a bajillion boards out there so find one where your vision fits the vision of the runners of the board.
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Hahaha, guess you have not been here very long. I have been given warnings, and have been banned for innocent comments. One warning was for calling someone a idiot or moron, due to the fact they were starting crap. Can't remember the 2nd warning. The reason I was banned was because a member here "bought" a zr1, and I said it was stupid for a person to pay 110k for a car that can be had for so much less if you want the same performance. It was an opinion, so if someone takes offense to that it's sad. Thats my lil piece on here. About the civilality here, I have seen way too many bad mouth fords. Of course its a chevy community, but if a car can simply beat yours stock for stock, give it props and move on. No need to bash it. Mind you mods and admins joined in to bash. However, when I stood up for the other cars I got threatened by being banned. Don't know how well this place will treat you dude, but good luck. I am at the point where I can care less if I am banned from here or not. If I am banned after this post, then be it, but it will show what kind of community is being ran here.
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all the mods play god here. Right with you about them bashing with the rest, but when they do it it's ok. Plain and simple power mongers. Haven't been banned yet, but oh me it would be real hard to come back as another poster.
I hope you guys feel better now that you've had the opportunity to express yourselves.

To prove that we aren't just ban happy mods, I'm just gonna say that if we really wanted to get rid of people we don't agree with then we'd have banned you permanently not temporarily...

I won't disclose publicly why any member has been warned or banned. But needless to say our version is a little different then yours.



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Here's a couple BLACK10:

it looks red in these pics, but she's orange.
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it looks red in these pics, but she's orange.
I've noticed in certain light, those two Challenger colors can be hard to tell apart.
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it looks red in these pics, but she's orange.
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Curious though, does the camaro come with a CAI like the ford? Also, im sure the camaro comes with dual exhaust...what about headers? Maybe that's something GM could possibly look into for the 2011 year...factory long tube headers to come stock on the SS models? If it doesnt come with CAI, that's another thing they could do, along with a performance tune straight from the factory? Dunno, just thinkin here.

Your thoughts?
As I recall, the CAI treatment in GT was a response to the Camaro. See the V6 Camaro would of had more HP than the Mustang GT. Since this was on short notice Ford added the CAI to bump the power to 315 up from 300. Pretty sure the full blown ford response from what we are hearing will be the 2011 models. Ford is rumored to be putting the Coyote 5L 400 HP V8 into the GT, and a 3.7L? V6 into the base model cranking out 315HP.

For Camaro in 2011, other than the convertable we haven't heard of many other really significant changes. Might be too soon. GM maybe waiting for ford to fully show it's hand.

And thus power wars are started......
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I know somebody with a Challenger and I like it. The Challenger is a nicely designed and executed automobile. It looks nice. I know somebody with a '10 Mustang GT and it's really nice as well. I prefer the Camaro because I've owned a few over the years and I just really like this car over the Challenger and Mustang. Doesn't mean I have to get all defensive when someone else has a differing opinion than mine.

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love the chally, test drove a fully loaded hemi orange rt 6 speed after the 4th delay. It is a great car, and the seats are way more supportive then the Camaro, but it just didnt win me over from my Camaro obsession, if i had it my way, i would have one stang, only chally and one Camaro, but for now i guess i can just dream lol
The one major turn off was the 19L/100km it was getting, what do you avg now? ANyways i thought that was bad but then i saw my v6 was getting 17L/100km and i was shocked, not that big of a difference
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