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Old 04-11-2008, 11:10 PM   #1
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Talking New member here chiming in. Want to know which cars the camaro is benchmarked against



Hello everyone ! finally decided to register on this site. I have been lurking for quite sometime since this forum was started. Never thought I would register or post here. I'll be honest im really new to the Camaro world I'm more of a Japanese car fan. I have owned several Japanese sports cars in my past and had the opportunity to drive a C5 vette around for a while and liked it a bit. My previous two cars were a 2004 Mazdaspeed miata, 1994 miata and currently a Honda Prelude that I use for daily commuting. Im really impressed by the new Camaro's overall attributes I love the way it looks and the performance figures seem very impressive to say the least.

My question is to all of you here how do you guys think the car will compare to say for example a Infiniti G37 coupe or the new Z with VQ35HR motor. Also the completely redesigned Z is on the horizon for the 2009 model year. There is a lot of competition out there. My sister currently owns a 2007 G35 coupe and I love the car its quick and luxurious and handles like nothing else.

I wanna know if Chevy has benchmarked a variety of cars to match and surpass them. I saw a spy shot a while ago and I noticed posters of other cars and makes in the garage of that spyshot. It had figures of power and performance listed on it. Im surprised no one brought up that picture if only I can find it again.

Anyways I plan on buying a Camaro as long as it turns out the way I expect it.
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Old 04-11-2008, 11:13 PM   #2
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The Camaro's gonna kick everybody else in the bee-hind!

Just kidding, welcome Sal! Glad you finally decided to join up! GM, and Chevy, and various executives have gone on record saying that this is to be a world-class vehicle, superior to every other car in it's class.....in everything.

I don't think anybody who looks at a Camaro will be disapointed in the least, so I'm glad you're peeking at it!
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Old 04-11-2008, 11:16 PM   #3
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Well we don't know what the ultimate performance numbers will be yet. It's still a bunch of speculation. What we do know is the Camaro used the Mustang GT 500 as a benchmark for the top end performance model.
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Old 04-11-2008, 11:20 PM   #4
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Hey Sal!

This is how the Camaro makes me feel
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Old 04-11-2008, 11:23 PM   #5
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I had the opportunity to check out the silver Camaro concept in the flesh at the Chicago autoshow couple of years back and recently end of last year at the Dubai autoshow. Im just blown away by its looks, I remember in the theatres here when I saw Transformers people started clapping and you could hear full on cheers booming when bumble bee made its appearance onscreen.

I have my hopes high especially after seeing the recent spyshots on the Nurburgring .

It has changed my perception of what I have thought of Camaros from the previous generation.
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Old 04-12-2008, 03:28 PM   #6
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The Mach 1 is the bench mark for the New Camaro.

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Old 04-12-2008, 06:15 PM   #7
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The general benchmark for the Camaro has always been the mustang. Today, the Challenger is the #2 competitor. But the Camaro will out perform any car that costs less than it does, and quite a few that cost more.
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Old 04-14-2008, 12:26 AM   #8
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It's my understanding that the Camaro is being positioned between the Mustang and SRT-8s in pricing. Performance-wise, I have not heard anything of benchmark cars (e.g. Nissan GT-R was benchmarked against the 911 Turbo) other than the top-end model performing at least as good as the Mustang GT-500.

The recent spat of pics of prototype Camaro testing at Nürburgring provides some degree of confidence that the car will not be a drag-race special. GM did a good job tuning the Cadillac CTS at Nürburgring and I expect comparable (or better) track performance from the new Camaro.

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Old 04-14-2008, 12:34 AM   #9
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Old 04-18-2008, 05:52 PM   #10
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Well we don't know what the ultimate performance numbers will be yet. It's still a bunch of speculation. What we do know is the Camaro used the Mustang GT 500 as a benchmark for the top end performance model.
I'm curious what you all think about the fact that the GT500 has been used as the benchmark. That car to me is overly heavy and has to compensate with a crazy amount of power and doesn't handle as well as it probably could if it was lighter.

When we hear that its being used as a benchmark I hope that means just performance in terms of speed and power? I hope we don't get an overly bloated heavyweight which compensates with a behemoth engine at the cost of handling and feel.
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Old 04-18-2008, 08:31 PM   #11
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Bruno, i would suspect that if its being tested on Nurburgring, that it will handle well and be fast on the turns and such, but have some topspeed as well for the straight away. i doubt it will be overweight and bulky seeing as thats the main thing people complain about with the GT500, Chevy's not going to make the same mistake.
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Old 04-19-2008, 10:49 PM   #12
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Old 04-21-2008, 11:15 AM   #13
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Bruno, i would suspect that if its being tested on Nurburgring, that it will handle well and be fast on the turns and such, but have some topspeed as well for the straight away. i doubt it will be overweight and bulky seeing as thats the main thing people complain about with the GT500, Chevy's not going to make the same mistake.
Good point. GM's not going to test this thing on the famous testing track like that just so make it some bloated underhandling pig like the GT 500. Still waiting to see some lap times for the Camaro tho
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Old 04-21-2008, 11:48 AM   #14
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It will pound the gas out of most cars on the street. With decent investment in modification, expect a Camaro to keep up with some older Lamorghinis. What is the goal? GM wants to beat the Mustang and the Charger for sure. The Challenger may be a driver's race as it weighs so much. Don't even worry about the rice.

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Old 04-21-2008, 01:27 PM   #15
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Well with some of the speculative performance numbers i'll bet the 350Z is in the crosshairs. If that is the case then expect this car to compete in a bunch of different performance classes across the V6 and V8 scales. I can't wait to see how it fairs. And i too agree that the GT500 should only be used as a power/speed bench mark... it handles horribly but gains ground in the straights. Imagine how it would do if the nose wasn't so heavy, but kept the power... it'd be pretty badass hopefully the camaro will be badass!
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It's my understanding that the Camaro is being positioned between the Mustang and SRT-8s in pricing. Performance-wise, I have not heard anything of benchmark cars (e.g. Nissan GT-R was benchmarked against the 911 Turbo) other than the top-end model performing at least as good as the Mustang GT-500.

The recent spat of pics of prototype Camaro testing at Nürburgring provides some degree of confidence that the car will not be a drag-race special. GM did a good job tuning the Cadillac CTS at Nürburgring and I expect comparable (or better) track performance from the new Camaro.

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It will be easier, I suppose, if the car was a lot lighter than the Shelby, to beat it as a benchmark while having less power, but it seems, by what officials have said, that they want to be tops in all if not most testing. I think the car will have to at least match the power of the Shelby, at least from a marketing perspective, to be considered a worthy adversary. I think it would be great to have a car just like the CTS-V, in terms of performance, minus all the weight.

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Well with some of the speculative performance numbers i'll bet the 350Z is in the crosshairs.
if you are stating that about the present day 350Z, then i would believe you are wrong, because there was this video of a Mazdaspeed3 beating a new 350Z nismo on a straight away on a highway, and i wouldnt think a MS3 would beat a camaro.

if your talking about a 350Z in the future, like 08 or 09, then sorry for doubting you.
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