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Old 03-28-2012, 07:12 PM   #1
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1st oil change - Did they use Synthetic??

I got a pit in my stomach today. At 9,800 miles, I brought my 2SS into the dealer for my first (complimentary) oil change. On my way home today, i notice the windshield sticker indicated my next oil change was at 14,750 miles. I suddenly felt that perhaps they used regular oil instead of synthetic. Is there any way to tell??
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Old 03-28-2012, 07:20 PM   #2
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Does the invoice say Mobil 1?
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Old 03-28-2012, 07:22 PM   #3
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WHy would you assume they used regualr instead of synthetic based on the mileage? Most dealers now use 5000 as the standard regardless of regualr or synthetic. Some just put a percentage with the new systems now as well. Look at your copy of the workorder and if it does not say call the dealer and they should be able to tell you what was usd.
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Old 03-28-2012, 07:27 PM   #4
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Thanks guys. I had to run out before getting the work order, but they said they would mail it. I should have it tomorrow or Friday. I just expected the worst once i saw the short mileage and the fact that it was complimentary.
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Old 03-28-2012, 07:28 PM   #5
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They automatically put Mobil 1 in the SSs just like the Vettes. Oh and my dealership puts the next change at 3k on the sticker each time.
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Old 03-28-2012, 07:31 PM   #6
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Installed a "fumoto valve" on my diesel truck. Was able to take oil samples and have it analyzed between oil changes. Other than asking and checking the invoice, not sure how you can be certain what they used. If you like doing the changes yourself, after putting a valve on once, draining the oil is a snap. Just got to get a little dirty with the filter.
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Old 03-28-2012, 08:13 PM   #7
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You should really learn to change your own oil. It's VERY VERY VERY VERY easy. That way you'll know for sure. It's the least that we can do for our babies.
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Old 03-28-2012, 08:39 PM   #8
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Most places use a blend ,,, unless you are asking for premium synthetic they won't use it
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Old 04-02-2012, 01:43 AM   #9
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What if u take ur own oil to the dealer? How can u know they used ur stuff over theirs
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Old 04-02-2012, 06:42 PM   #10
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You should really learn to change your own oil. It's VERY VERY VERY VERY easy. That way you'll know for sure. It's the least that we can do for our babies.
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Old 04-02-2012, 11:17 PM   #11
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I watched the first oil change and counted the quarts. Young kid loved my car and we chatted about what he wanted next for a vehicle. I think from now on, I'll have my guy help me change it..........
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Old 04-28-2012, 06:15 PM   #12
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What if u take ur own oil to the dealer? How can u know they used ur stuff over theirs
Use your "I'll F@&#*ng kill you face" and politely ask them if you can watch the oil change. They should, they are probably car-guys too.
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Old 04-28-2012, 10:30 PM   #13
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Only in the 2010 owners manual are Mobil 1 and synthetic mentioned when it comes to engine oil. Nowhere in the the owners manual for the 2011 or 2012 does it say to use synthetic or Mobil 1, they only mention Dexos. As long as Dexos is used, all is good. If Dexos isn't available then anything 5w-30 is also fine as long as it has the API starburst. This is a quote right from the 2011 owners manual.
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Use of substitute engine oils if dexos is unavailable: In the event that dexos approved engine oil is not available at an oil change or for maintaining proper oil level, you may use a substitute engine oil displaying the API Starburst symbol and of SAE 5W-30 viscosity grade. Use of oils that do not meet the dexos specification, however, may result in reduced performance under certain circumstances.
For the 2012 cars the above quote is not in the owners manual. The 2012 owners manual says
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Notice: Failure to use the recommended engine oil or equivalent can result in engine damage not covered by the vehicle warranty. Check with your dealer or service provider on whether the oil is approved to the Dexos1 specification.
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Old 04-29-2012, 12:41 AM   #14
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Even if they did, its not like your car will blow up. Get a grip!
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Old 04-29-2012, 10:07 PM   #15
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There should be a BIG price difference in a regular oil change and a synthetic oil change.
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Old 04-29-2012, 10:40 PM   #16
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My dealership is anal about oil. So much so they argued with me about Royal Purple. They basically knew there types of oil and which ones for which vehicle. I made an appointment for tuesday and the guy said Mobil 1 8L and a Mobil 1 filter..... etc. They know what they have to use, and they won't use anything else. I tried to tell them Royal Purple is dexos 1 approved, and they said they would have to record it down if they used it(They assumed it would void warranty, because they don't know even what Royal purple is. Yes I know that sounds bad, but really its not popular up here. You see a quart in Canadian tire and thats it. So they just go by what they are told, and here at my dealership Camaro SS=ONLY Mobil1).
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Old 05-06-2012, 08:34 AM   #17
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The dealer I'm employed by uses factory spec. Your 2011 has Mobil 1 logo on the cap. '12s and newer say dexos.

We always use Mobil 1 and AC Delco filters on V8 Camaros and Corvettes.
We always recommend 3k mile oil changes regardless of oil life and owners manuals. Chevy will warranty engine repairs if you go by the oil life monitoring system, but it usually takes a couple weeks in the shop for rebuilding the bottom ends.

better to change @3-4k than to have your car sit in the shop waiting on parts.
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Old 05-06-2012, 08:53 AM   #18
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The dealer I'm employed by uses factory spec. Your 2011 has Mobil 1 logo on the cap. '12s and newer say dexos.

We always use Mobil 1 and AC Delco filters on V8 Camaros and Corvettes.
We always recommend 3k mile oil changes regardless of oil life and owners manuals. Chevy will warranty engine repairs if you go by the oil life monitoring system, but it usually takes a couple weeks in the shop for rebuilding the bottom ends.

better to change @3-4k than to have your car sit in the shop waiting on parts.
Spoken like a true Stealership.
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Old 05-06-2012, 09:01 AM   #19
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wow, really? What did I say to sound like a stealer? Some people have a serious hatred towards dealers.....we're not all bad....sorry your dealer may suck a big one and I probably wouldn't disagree.
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Old 05-06-2012, 01:38 PM   #20
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wow, really? What did I say to sound like a stealer? Some people have a serious hatred towards dealers.....we're not all bad....sorry your dealer may suck a big one and I probably wouldn't disagree.
You totally contradicted what you were saying. I'm not just pointing a finger at you or GM. It is a typical dealer ploy that many manufacturers do to get more money out of the customer for absolutely no reason by recommending something much more frequent than needed.

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We always recommend 3k mile oil changes regardless of oil life and owners manuals. Chevy will warranty engine repairs if you go by the oil life monitoring system, but it usually takes a couple weeks in the shop for rebuilding the bottom ends.

better to change @3-4k than to have your car sit in the shop waiting on parts.
Exactly what I am pointing out. There is absolutely no proof that changing the oil @3-4K is going to prevent a failure and your car sitting in the shop waiting on parts. 3k oil changes on our SS's with a two gallon oil capacity is absurd. Alot of GM dealerships including yours must be mighter than Dr. Emily Schwartz and the engineering team at big corp GM that deveoped the OLM system for the cars you all sell and work on.

We went 13,504 miles when the OLM hit 0% on our previous oil change using the original Mobil 1, PF48 the first 50% and a Wix 57060 the last 50%. Reason I did that is because the PF48 is not capable of that many miles IMO. I sent in an oil sample and had it analyzed. The oil came back with flying colors. This last oil change we had 12,221 miles on Mobil 1 EP. I have the sample ready to be sent off and will post the results like I did on my previous oil change.
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I will never change my oil at 3k and my car will never go to the dealer because they have no clue. OP did you get the work order? Regular oil won't hurt just next time you know don't take it to the dealer.
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Old 05-08-2012, 07:28 PM   #22
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I'll have the first oil change at 3K, then it's by the OL %.
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hey Navdood, ease up, i work for a gm dealer also, if u wanna wait that long for your oil changes to pinch pennys on your expensive car that is up to u man, but for most of us we dont mind spending a little more for 8qt changes early so we can protect our investment and idc about your oil analysis i will change my oil early everytime.....dont be so fast to use terms like stealership and jump on guys like us, you will have a lot of negative responses thrown your way... watch it
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hey Navdood, ease up, i work for a gm dealer also, if u wanna wait that long for your oil changes to pinch pennys on your expensive car that is up to u man, but for most of us we dont mind spending a little more for 8qt changes early so we can protect our investment and idc about your oil analysis i will change my oil early everytime.....dont be so fast to use terms like stealership and jump on guys like us, you will have a lot of negative responses thrown your way... watch it
Bring it, I ain't skeered. It absolutely had NOTHING to do with pinching pennies. It's about newer technology and systems set in place from big corp that have had tons of R&D and money poured into it like I posted in post #20. I'm sure you don't care about my analysis reports and I don't care that you don't care. Factual info is hard for a lot of people to digest. Analysis reports don't lie and are a nemesis to dealers because they make the dealers look even worse when they recommend service items more often than needed just to get more money out of the customer. If you follow the OLM you cannot ever be chastised for doing something wrong.
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hey Navdood, ease up, i work for a gm dealer also, if u wanna wait that long for your oil changes to pinch pennys on your expensive car that is up to u man, but for most of us we dont mind spending a little more for 8qt changes early so we can protect our investment and idc about your oil analysis i will change my oil early everytime.....dont be so fast to use terms like stealership and jump on guys like us, you will have a lot of negative responses thrown your way... watch it
No reason to change the oil that soon when using synthetic. If you are saying we should change the oil every 3k the author we have the oil life meter? When it is time for the change I can tell you the last place it's going is the dealer.
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