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Old 08-11-2009, 11:03 AM   #1
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The Wait is Now Too Long

I ordered my Camaro on Feb 26/09. My dealer is still telling me today (Aug 11) that he has no idea when it might get built. I talk to other dealerships who tell me that they can get on the GM system and the know exactly where every car they ordered is at. WTF?!

Is anybody else in this same situation, or am I just getting the screw around?

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Old 08-11-2009, 11:06 AM   #2
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Sounds like your dealer did NOT ahve an allocation, and everybody else that knows when their car is going to be built, had dealers with allocations. You need to go into the dealer, ask how many allocations they have, and if they say they have some, then tell them that GM should ahve accepted your order already. If they say none, I would reccomend going to another dealer : /
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Your dealer doesn't have allocation for your order. Go to the ordering section of this board and read everything you can on allocation. Post your order # in the tracking thread and check to see if you're still in 1100 status.

There are a ton of great people here that are willing to help.
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Dude, your dealership is screwing you around. When your car is submitted for an order, you get a workbench number. You need that number in order to track it in the system. Ask him for this number. If he refuses to give it to you, then you know he hasn't placed the order yet. I would then ask for any deposit you gave and find another dealership with an allocation available to place the order for you. It should only take around 8-10 weeks to gt your car.
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Old 08-11-2009, 11:14 AM   #6
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Yea well... wait until you get built, then you'll feel the wait... I have been built for over 3 weeks and have had ZERO movement.
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Old 08-11-2009, 12:22 PM   #7
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The dealer stated he had the allocations. He stated to me yesterday that it may be another month before it gets to production. That would mean another 2 month wait, at best (one week for build, 3 weeks for delivery) and that puts us into November already. Anybody know what is happening in Alberta in November? The car will sit in a garage till spring. Not willing to go there...
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The dealer stated he had the allocations. He stated to me yesterday that it may be another month before it gets to production. That would mean another 2 month wait, at best (one week for build, 3 weeks for delivery) and that puts us into November already. Anybody know what is happening in Alberta in November? The car will sit in a garage till spring. Not willing to go there...
As others have already said....get the order number from the dealer! It's a 6 digit order number usually starts with an N and can be a combo of letters and numbers or all letters. That number is produced as soon as he inputs the order into the Workbench system, whether he has an allocation for the order or not. The order number is produced right away. The only way to tell if he's BSing you is to have a dealer here check the event code of your order number. If your still at 1100, he has no allocation for your order and it could be months more waiting! Then move on to a dealer who has allocation and you'll have your car in 8-10 weeks. I ordered my car at the end of April and I've already had my car for 6 weeks...my dealer had an allocation for my order. I have a feeling that he hasn't even ordered your car yet if he doesn't have the order number. You should have been given a printout of the order on the day you ordered the car, that has your order number on it.
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Yea well... wait until you get built, then you'll feel the wait... I have been built for over 3 weeks and have had ZERO movement.
Oh geez....I hope I'm not in the same situation, but I have a feeling I am :( Dealer wrote me today and told me my EXP(I/T) (expired in-transite date) isn't until 9/9. My car was built last week. So the car just sits on the train for a month?? Yes I realize compared to some others on this site, my delivery is still much faster than theirs....but I don't understand why when the cars are ready to go that they remain still for weeks.

To the topic starter...if your dealer has no order number to give and you can drop your order without losing too much of a downpayment....find a new dealer with allocations. You'll feel so much better seeing things progress.
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To be honest, this has been such a disappointing process that I don't think I will even bother trying to get a different one. At this stage all I have left is anger and I am tired of being lied to (and I have a pocket full of cash I didn't spend on a car). I will likely just tell the dealer to get lost and look at another BMW. This is the second time I have tried to order a vehicle through GM and been screwed around.
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To be honest, this has been such a disappointing process that I don't think I will even bother trying to get a different one. At this stage all I have left is anger and I am tired of being lied to (and I have a pocket full of cash I didn't spend on a car). I will likely just tell the dealer to get lost and look at another BMW. This is the second time I have tried to order a vehicle through an independently owned dealer and been screwed around.
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you didn't ask the right questions when you placed the order. It is not GM's fault. It's important to find out ahead of time if they had an allocation and also minimal searching on this site would have provided a lot of answers as well as order tracking for you to lessen your frustration. I only learned about allocation from this site, and as soon as I learned about it, went to dealer to find out how many per month they get, and how many were at 1100 in front of me. Only then could I guess my wait. The workbench # should have been given to you the day you placed the order, IMHO. EVERY dealer has access to the system to track where all their orders are at. If they are telling you otherwise, bolt.

It would be nice if all the dealers told us what we needed to know, but many are unscrupulous, which is not what Oshawa/GM is. It's a new and unique process to order this car and I only fault GM for not anticipating/planning better how to contend with unsurpassed appeal for this car.
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you didn't ask the right questions when you placed the order. It is not GM's fault. You should have known to find out ahead of time if they had an allocation and also minimal searching on this site would have provided a lot of answers sooner for you to lessen your frustration. I only learned about allocation from this site, and as soon as I learned about it, went to dealer to find out how many per month they get, and how many were at 1100 in front of me. Only then could I guess my wait. The workbench # should have been given to you the day you placed the order, IMHO. It would be nice if all the dealers told us what we needed to know, but many are unscrupulous, which is not what Oshawa/GM is. It's a new and unique process to order this car and I only fault GM for not anticipating/planning better how to contend with unsurpassed appeal for this car.
Actually, I did speak to them about allocations, how many, how many in front of me, etc etc. They had 12 allocations, I was number 11. If that is wrong, that is their mistake, not mine.

Just to give you an idea of what I have experienced, at the beginning of July (after bugging them, wondering where the car is) I got an email to say that mine was the next order being built for them. A week later, I get another email saying that there are 2 orders in front of me that are next in line to be built, yesterday he says again that mine is next in line, and today he is supposed to be giving me a timeline/update, but now hasn't called back, but his last comment was that it would likely be a month before it gets started. Back and forth, back and forth... Never have they ever mentioned a work bench number...
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Actually, I did speak to them about allocations, how many, how many in front of me, etc etc. They had 12 allocations, I was number 11. If that is wrong, that is their mistake, not mine.

Just to give you an idea of what I have experienced, at the beginning of July (after bugging them, wondering where the car is) I got an email to say that mine was the next order being built for them. A week later, I get another email saying that there are 2 orders in front of me that are next in line to be built, yesterday he says again that mine is next in line, and today he is supposed to be giving me a timeline/update, but now hasn't called back, but his last comment was that it would likely be a month before it gets started. Back and forth, back and forth... Never have they ever mentioned a work bench number...
How could you order a car and not walk away with a piece of paper with proof that you ordered the car? That printout would have had your order number on it, then you could check the status of your order through a dealer on this site, if your dealer won't give you any info. What "in hand" proof or paperwork do you have that your car has actually been ordered?
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Actually, I did speak to them about allocations, how many, how many in front of me, etc etc. They had 12 allocations, I was number 11. If that is wrong, that is their mistake, not mine.

Just to give you an idea of what I have experienced, at the beginning of July (after bugging them, wondering where the car is) I got an email to say that mine was the next order being built for them. A week later, I get another email saying that there are 2 orders in front of me that are next in line to be built, yesterday he says again that mine is next in line, and today he is supposed to be giving me a timeline/update, but now hasn't called back, but his last comment was that it would likely be a month before it gets started. Back and forth, back and forth... Never have they ever mentioned a work bench number...
Yes that sounds incredibly frustrating. I don't know for sure, but it sounds like your car might have been passed up for one behind you if you had an SS Manual- a few weeks ago there was a constrain for about a week on those. Also things like color-coded engine covers and high wing spoiler, maybe the Hurst shifter too are still constrained which means your order won't move for some time. When I first placed my order they told be I was #11 in line out of 8 allocations but when I inquired the next month, they couldn't/wouldn't tell me. I got a little worried then my order got picked up. For sure you need to get the 6 digit alpha-numeric order # that starts with an "N", then go to Viz thread in the ordering and tracking area-- give him that number and he'll tell ya where you're at. I'm sorry it's been a bad experience for you. I know you'd love the car if you stick it out or switch dealers, but do what's best for you and your sanity.
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How could you order a car and not walk away with a piece of paper with proof that you ordered the car? That printout would have had your order number on it, then you could check the status of your order through a dealer on this site, if your dealer won't give you any info. What "in hand" proof or paperwork do you have that your car has actually been ordered?

Actually, I made a mistake-- Viz can't track your order because it's Canadian. But I imagine there is a way to track it, any Canadian dealer should be able to look it up, ONCE you have the 6 digit "N" number.
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I was sitting at 1100 status for months...my local dealer kept giving me the runaround. I found Chris Brennen through this website. I decided to go with him after talking to him over the phone. My order was placed the previous Saturday. In one week I was at 2000, by friday im supposed to be at 3000 with a TPW between 9/21 and 9/27.

So basically two weeks time for a production date, he has allocation let me link you up to a thread he started recently. http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=36146

If you really want a Camaro, I would advise ordering from him. I had to go pretty far away from home to find someone with allocation LOL
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Well, I gave the dealer a blast via email cuz I had never been given any numbers and he came back to say that my work bench number was NHHPWX and STOCK # 19088. Well, at least it was in the system. Funny they only tell you this when you get mad at 'em.
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Great news! Not sure what the stock # is (but would be nice if it were a VIN). Now you just need to find a Canandian dealer or someone on here that can track Canadian orders. If he told you yesterday it might be a month, it's possible you are still next in line, but he used up all the allocations for this production cycle and you will be on his next round. Just a guess... But he could just be telling you anything out of ignorance. Have you talked to the inventory/sales mgr, or even the Gen Mgr? or just your dumb salesman?
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I was sitting at 1100 status for months...my local dealer kept giving me the runaround. I found Chris Brennen through this website. I decided to go with him after talking to him over the phone. My order was placed the previous Saturday. In one week I was at 2000, by friday im supposed to be at 3000 with a TPW between 9/21 and 9/27.

So basically two weeks time for a production date, he has allocation let me link you up to a thread he started recently. http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=36146

If you really want a Camaro, I would advise ordering from him. I had to go pretty far away from home to find someone with allocation LOL
Hello Joe,

We are all at the mercy of GM's production process. The information I gave you re your order was my best estimate, based on my experience thus far. I try to under promise and over deliver, so please bear with me as we go through this process together. Once GM has the order, there is very little I can do to influence build time. I follow the process and update my customers in a timely manner. I pray often!

I ordered a 1SS for a customer in March. His car invoiced 6/25 and it's still not here. His car was on QC hold the whole month of July. Crap occurs!

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Old 08-12-2009, 09:01 AM   #22
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Order cancelled.

Well, I cancelled my order. I got a call late yesterday to tell me that now it wouldn't be here till sometime in November. That was enough. He was good enough to understand my disappointment (an understatement) and will give my deposit back today. I have no desire to go and trailer a car home in November and stuff it in the garage for 5 months. GM sure isn't giving any thought to where orders come from. I guess they can live with one less sale.
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Maybe this will help

I today received a call from my dealer and was told that my order has been picked up for building, I order my car on march 5th but I have been calling my dealer every week , so I would keep calling until someone tells u what's going on
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Mine is built and been sitting on hold for over 3 week when car buith afdter mine are already delivered.Vin # 23026 and cars with vin over 30000 are already delivered.Wait over 7 months.R6P pre order.GM Sucks!!!
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ArcticCamaro, i got a call last nite from Westgate Chev in Edmonton..they have a 2SS in the showroom...wasn't sold yet....i have mine, but i had contacted so many dealers i keep getting calls for unsold cars...try making a few calls, you may be suprised what you may find...
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