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Old 07-26-2014, 02:51 PM   #18
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what exactly was so different between the LLT and LFX that made tuning the LLT so difficult anyways?
Support for the LLT should pick up as soon as the new GM V8's hit the market hard as they have Bosch ECU's now. Especially when the 6th gen hits with that same ECU.
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Old 07-26-2014, 08:21 PM   #19
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Support for the LLT should pick up as soon as the new GM V8's hit the market hard as they have Bosch ECU's now. Especially when the 6th gen hits with that same ECU.
6th gen is gonna use the Bosch ECU?
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Old 07-26-2014, 08:53 PM   #20
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6th gen is gonna use the Bosch ECU?
Why would they change it to Bosch? Don't fix it if it ain't broke
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Old 07-26-2014, 09:30 PM   #21
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I haven't heard this rumor, but If it's true I would guess they would do it to make the cars harder to tune and mess with?
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Old 07-26-2014, 10:03 PM   #22
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I am pretty sure the new Silverado and Stingray have the Delphi ECU. That doesn't mean the 6th Gen will, but I hope so.
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Old 07-26-2014, 10:51 PM   #23
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I'm almost 100% positive the LT1 and the V8s in the Silverado trucks use Delphi ECUs. I haven't heard anything of them going back to Bosch.
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Old 07-27-2014, 01:29 AM   #24
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Support for the LLT should pick up as soon as the new GM V8's hit the market hard as they have Bosch ECU's now. Especially when the 6th gen hits with that same ECU.
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I haven't heard this rumor, but If it's true I would guess they would do it to make the cars harder to tune and mess with?
IF it's true it's probably due to lower costs
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Old 07-27-2014, 07:06 AM   #26
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It was a old article I read awhile ago before the first Silverado even had hit the road. So guess things have changed and I am wrong.

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Old 07-27-2014, 09:53 AM   #27
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It was a old article I read awhile ago before the first Silverado even had hit the road. So guess things have changed and I am wrong.

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I was kind of hoping it was true just so there would be more tuning support for the LLT, a little bit selfish of me but I'll live lol
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Old 07-27-2014, 10:53 AM   #28
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I was kind of hoping it was true just so there would be more tuning support for the LLT, a little bit selfish of me but I'll live lol

Not selfish i'd say the tuning companies are being selfish and lazy not getting in on a market that is drooling for support.
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Old 07-27-2014, 09:45 PM   #29
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In most cases V8 supersedes V6 all day in production and development. In this case, I'm not really sure.
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Old 07-30-2014, 05:02 PM   #30
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Not selfish i'd say the tuning companies are being selfish and lazy not getting in on a market that is drooling for support.
This was the same problem the community was having when I was running with the supercharged Grand Prix guys. A few companies stepped up, but got greedy and started ripping guys off with shoddy parts and poor tuning.
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Old 07-30-2014, 05:47 PM   #31
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Not selfish i'd say the tuning companies are being selfish and lazy not getting in on a market that is drooling for support.
I wouldn't go so far as to say a market that is drooling for support... More like a handful of people on this website. When you consider that 50-60% of the total amount of 5th gens out there in the world today are v6 cars; if all 200-250k of them wanted something, it would probably get made.

This site has about 94k members, some of them don't even own a 5th gen Camaro, so figure at some point or another about 15-20% of all new Camaro puchases since late 2009 have registered on here at some point but not all members are active, I'd guess than less than half of that 15-20% are v6 owners... split that in half again for the LLT vs LFX engine crowds... LLT only being a 2 year run; the market looks pretty nil to me.

IPS/Fabberge had already stated in their post halfway down the section here, that if they could get at least 5 people committed they could probably make a kit... Get your money out, and they will build it.
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Old 08-02-2014, 03:42 PM   #32
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Tuning aside,how much different can the two kits be (LLT,LFX). Piping from exhaust mani's, what else?
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Old 08-28-2014, 07:48 AM   #33
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Tuning aside,how much different can the two kits be (LLT,LFX). Piping from exhaust mani's, what else?
I'm curious too as mine's an LLT. I'm hoping I can have a go at fitting this kit to my car when funds permit, bring it down under
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Old 08-28-2014, 12:14 PM   #34
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Tuning aside,how much different can the two kits be (LLT,LFX). Piping from exhaust mani's, what else?
Like Gretchin said, it's the Bosch cpu for the LLT'S that's the problem, but hp tuners has come out with a tune for the LLT"s. I had my supercharger tuned with HP software by J&M, and the car is running great. I'm going to J&M Motorsports tomorrow, I'll ask them if they would be able to do a TT.
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