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Old 04-15-2008, 02:03 PM   #1
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Cool camaro vs. shelby super snake?

what do you guys think would win. my friend at school thinks that the super snake will win. but he says that it would have to be a stock vs. stock race, so wouldnt that mean that the camaro would be racing a normal mustang???
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Old 04-15-2008, 02:12 PM   #2
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do i really need to say??? this isn't even fair i mean were talkin about a mustang withOUT irs when we hit the twistys the super snake WILL lose and shoot you're compairing a 30k car to a 80k car... that the looks of it ugh don't get me started and all i've got to say /end discusion
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Old 04-15-2008, 02:15 PM   #3
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but thats not the answer i was lookin for. if my friend wants to have a STOCK race than wat car would he be racing with?!?!?!
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Old 04-15-2008, 02:22 PM   #4
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Well, I would say more info would be needed before this could be answered.

What kind of race? Stoplight to stoplight, drag strip, road course, etc.

You mention stock, and a Super Snake could be considered stock since it comes from the "factory" that way (maybe not the Ford factory, but it isn't really aftermarket parts either).

Oh, there's only one more thing you need to figure out....what Camaro? You want the one with the V8, right? Which V8? How much power does that put out? What kind of tranny is in it? How about tires? Brakes? (I know, those Brembos right?)....you get the point....there is too much still unknown/being speculated on to really answer the question.

From what we've been told, if there is a "comparable to the Super Snake" Camaro, then I'd probably guess that the Camaro wins. But, we don't know that that will even happen. Odds are it will not. Not from the factory anyway, and then there goes the "stock" portion of this question.
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Old 04-15-2008, 02:26 PM   #5
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all ive got to say is midwest ftmfw lol
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Old 04-15-2008, 02:26 PM   #6
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i think he means quarter mile. but that answered the STOCK question.
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Old 04-15-2008, 02:41 PM   #7
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well, IMHO, if u raced a "stock" cough cough $80,000 car against a stock $30,000 car, chances are the snake would win on the 1/4. but then u also have to figure, is it the under 600 hp factory warranty version or the 700+ hp no warranty super snake? but yeah, my money would be on the snake, just remember, there's nothing fair about that race.
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Old 04-15-2008, 02:48 PM   #8
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Old 04-15-2008, 02:54 PM   #9
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what about a road race the new camaro will more then likely have irs the super s*** doesn't
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Old 04-15-2008, 03:59 PM   #10
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The Super Snake will win every race, no contest... for the next year. Then things will get interesting
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Old 04-15-2008, 04:38 PM   #11
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Old 04-15-2008, 07:31 PM   #12
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Wow are you guys serious? I drive a 2003 cobra $40,000 new not 80k its a 390hp stock 0-60 in 4.7 seconds and in no way can a stock 2002 camaro SS take it in any kind of race. (sorry) My car isn't stock anymore but WOW. Don't get me wrong I'm a camaro fan but facts are facts. I'm really looking forward to a 436 hp LS3 2010 camaro that stock can destroy all stock mustangs including the new GT500KR. Even tho the KR edition has 540 stock hp. Its so heavy and the gears suck. I believe the new camaro with the LS3 and same gears as the 2008 vette will dominate over all snakes.
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Old 04-15-2008, 07:40 PM   #13
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Wow are you guys serious? I drive a 2003 cobra $40,000 new not 80k its a 390hp stock 0-60 in 4.7 seconds and in no way can a stock 2002 camaro SS take it in any kind of race. (sorry) My car isn't stock anymore but WOW. Don't get me wrong I'm a camaro fan but facts are facts. I'm really looking forward to a 436 hp LS3 2010 camaro that stock can destroy all stock mustangs including the new GT500KR. Even tho the KR edition has 540 stock hp. Its so heavy and the gears suck. I believe the new camaro with the LS3 and same gears as the 2008 vette will dominate over all snakes.
yea thats 2002 vs 2003 things can change on a year
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Old 04-15-2008, 07:51 PM   #14
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The GT500 at stickered aat 42,500 last I checked. Dealer markup = 10+k to sell the gt500's at around 70-80k.

Also, the Super Snake is a limited edition (but what isn't on a mustang), if you're talking about stock vs. stock I would say use production models, you'd have base mustang, GT and GT500. Camaro would have base 6 cyl, entry level v8 and the hi po v8.

If he wants to race a Super Snake as call it stock, he'd better help you pay for a Berger or some other dealer edition camaro with a bigger engine and possibly forced induction.
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Old 04-15-2008, 07:52 PM   #15
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I'm really looking forward to a 436 hp LS3 2010 camaro that stock can destroy all stock mustangs including the new GT500KR. Even tho the KR edition has 540 stock hp. Its so heavy and the gears suck. I believe the new camaro with the LS3 and same gears as the 2008 vette will dominate over all snakes.
You answered the question, but it might have been by accident. I don't believe there was any mention of a 2002 Camaro....
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Old 04-15-2008, 07:58 PM   #16
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At first I was confusing the King of the Road with the Super Snake. The Top Dog Camaro will have a hard time competing with 600-725 hp. But the Camaro will probably beat it in the turns. But they will likely weigh about the same and the Camaro would be putting out up to 550 hp. But with these cars, stock becomes kinda relative. Ford won't exactly be making the Super Snake -its a Shelby. Using that logic, one of the authorized GM tuning companies could turn a 550 hp Camaro into one to compete with the Super Snake. Its merely playing by the same set of rules. But a 35-40k Camaro will get beat by the supersnake.
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Old 04-16-2008, 01:21 AM   #17
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Dude...are we talking about a 5th Gen Camaro compared to a Shelby Super Snake???

How could someone compare the two?? The darn Camaro hasn't even been released!!

Let me just whip up some guesstimated performance #'s for the Camaro and ...
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Old 04-17-2008, 01:45 PM   #18
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the thing is that he wants a race between the two and he doesnt understand that the camaro(5th gen.) isnt out yet and that ford doesnt make the gt500(super snake and kr) and shelby does.
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Dude...are we talking about a 5th Gen Camaro compared to a Shelby Super Snake???

How could someone compare the two?? The darn Camaro hasn't even been released!!

Let me just whip up some guesstimated performance #'s for the Camaro and ...
The Camaro will win because so far all we've got is our imaginations and nothing beats an imagination in a race. My imaginary Camaro was posted in another thread with a 0-60 faster than the space shuttle and is powered by a nuclear reactor. Take that, Super Snake!
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Old 04-17-2008, 04:28 PM   #20
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In my imagination, THE top dog Camaro will beat THE top dog Mustang...hold up...that's not my imagination...that's the FUTURE!!! or my prediction, at least.

It'll happen.
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Old 04-17-2008, 08:42 PM   #21
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The only way it would be a fair race with the Super Snake is if a ZL1, Berger or a Dicky Harrell Camaro ran it...because those are factory stock but elite/rare Cars
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Old 04-18-2008, 02:54 PM   #22
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In my imagination, THE top dog Camaro will beat THE top dog Mustang...hold up...that's not my imagination...that's the FUTURE!!! or my prediction, at least.

It'll happen.
I can't keep it in any longer!

I heard from insiders at GM's secret underground base that the top dog will have 4000 horsepower with 3600 pound-feet of torque with a government-sponsored top secret engine that will only go in the upcoming Camaro. It will have extendable wings and be able to fly. It will look like the bottom has neons, but those will really be special rockets that help it hover above ground. The flux capacitor will activate at 88 miles per hour so you can go back in time to redo races you lost in previous cars. The active fuel management feature will not be available in the Camaro as it will use a nuclear reactor to power it's overwhelming motor, and it will do 0-60 faster than the NASA space shuttle. The top speed will be 600 miles per hour, and it can teleport using new technology that was stolen from a space-faring civilization from the future. I'm sure I've forgotten something, so feel free to ask questions.
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I can't keep it in any longer!

I heard from insiders at GM's secret underground base that the top dog will have 4000 horsepower with 3600 pound-feet of torque with a government-sponsored top secret engine that will only go in the upcoming Camaro. It will have extendable wings and be able to fly. It will look like the bottom has neons, but those will really be special rockets that help it hover above ground. The flux capacitor will activate at 88 miles per hour so you can go back in time to redo races you lost in previous cars. The active fuel management feature will not be available in the Camaro as it will use a nuclear reactor to power it's overwhelming motor, and it will do 0-60 faster than the NASA space shuttle. The top speed will be 600 miles per hour, and it can teleport using new technology that was stolen from a space-faring civilization from the future. I'm sure I've forgotten something, so feel free to ask questions.
Is that the SS or the Z/28?
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Is that the SS or the Z/28?
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SDS -Super Duper Sport
Actually, it's a URSESUSDS (Ultra Rare Special Edition Supreme Unholy Super Duper Sport).
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