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Old 10-17-2009, 11:10 AM   #126
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That dos not help if you are tiring to run big tires on the car, I like the look of your 305 but not the 19 in the wheel openings, I know i am tiring to have my cake and eat it too, but that is what makes the world go a round.
The 305/30/20 will fit on the rear with an 11" rim no problem. Up front you should be able to run a 275/35 on a 10.5 and maybe even an 11.

As for the wheel gaps, I NEVER see them when I am pulling 1.38Gs in a turn.

Give Dave Schardt a call over at Forgeline or speak with Rob Anderson our Pedders / Expert Tire expert. If they cannot come up with a fitment for you, no one can.
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The 305/30/20 will fit on the rear with an 11" rim no problem. Up front you should be able to run a 275/35 on a 10.5 and maybe even an 11.

As for the wheel gaps, I NEVER see them when I am pulling 1.38Gs in a turn.

Give Dave Schardt a call over at Forgeline or speak with Rob Anderson our Pedders / Expert Tire expert. If they cannot come up with a fitment for you, no one can.
I'd rather be fast than pretty

I have coilovers coming in soon, I'll probably be adding 'Extreme XA Street Performance' kit to my order, can you PM me a price?
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Old 10-19-2009, 06:06 PM   #128
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Guys, we just finished a rather substantial track testing using the 19s with 305s. You should all check out the thread titled Pedders Camaro Track Test. There is a ton of data there.

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Old 10-20-2009, 09:20 PM   #129
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The 305s look good from most any angle.



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Old 10-20-2009, 09:28 PM   #130
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Old 10-27-2009, 07:09 AM   #131
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Typical wait times have been months, with this order you can get the Xa's in much less time.
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Old 12-15-2009, 09:47 PM   #132
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Old 12-15-2009, 09:53 PM   #133
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Old 01-20-2010, 07:38 PM   #134
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Old 03-27-2010, 02:53 AM   #135
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Updates to the Pedders Camaro

For several months, we have been testing the next generation Pedders coil overs. We have made multiple changes and now the Camaro set is ready for production, and they are absolute perfection after we have made all the fine tuning adjustments!

They have oversized remote reservoirs with dual adjustability. This makes it a great setup for both autocross and road racing guys and drag strip guys and guys who do both. Also when set up properly, they will offer a more comfortable, controlling ride for street play. We have also increased the monotube size from 46mm to a 52mm setup. We still had no issues running our massive 305s on all 4 wheels. The increase of fluid in the monotube will increase ride comfort and is also perfect for race setups.. Also one thing that is critical besides the range of adjustment is the actual sizes of the reserviors. They are huge for this size of vehicle.

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Old 03-29-2010, 06:09 PM   #136
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Nice car pedders.. But if your gonna compare to a vette on the track, dont compete against a base model thern brag that yours rocks it.... and more like 700 lbs lighter or so not 1500... at least compare to a z06 like most are familiar with....
Take note im not gonna bring the stock zr1 into the pic....
Either way great job on the car... I just disagree with your misleading advertising... press asked you my ass, cuz people would see it wasnt a z your comparing to, but in fact a base, soft suspension-ed for 60+ year olds base model c6, CHeese base tire sizes pointed it out to me..
wouldnt bother me if you didnt talk like you beat the best stock vette...
its like comparing a modded v8 to a stock v6...
Plz give some apples to apples comparisons with a z06vette, which is what every corvette is meant to have as its tuned for the car by gm on the nurburgring for handling, the base c6 & c5 are tuned for speed bumps at the grocery store & veterans club..., just because the average age of owners is over 60... thank god im only half way.
anyways, Nuttin beats over a foot of meat up front, I luv it!
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Nice car pedders.. But if your gonna compare to a vette on the track, dont compete against a base model thern brag that yours rocks it.... and more like 700 lbs lighter or so not 1500... at least compare to a z06 like most are familiar with....
Take note im not gonna bring the stock zr1 into the pic....
Either way great job on the car... I just disagree with your misleading advertising... press asked you my ass, cuz people would see it wasnt a z your comparing to, but in fact a base, soft suspension-ed for 60+ year olds base model c6, CHeese base tire sizes pointed it out to me..
wouldnt bother me if you didnt talk like you beat the best stock vette...
its like comparing a modded v8 to a stock v6...
Plz give some apples to apples comparisons with a z06vette, which is what every corvette is meant to have as its tuned for the car by gm on the nurburgring for handling, the base c6 & c5 are tuned for speed bumps at the grocery store & veterans club..., just because the average age of owners is over 60... thank god im only half way.
anyways, Nuttin beats over a foot of meat up front, I luv it!
All we had available to run from the Vette side was a base model and we were thrilled that Matt Berger from Berger Chevrolet made it available to us. Our lap times at Gingerman are a DEAD HEAT with a Z06 according to the data we have been able to gather. If anyone would like to hand over a Z06, I'll put my driver in it the next time we have the track along with the data acquisition equipment.
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Old 03-29-2010, 09:33 PM   #138
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Nice car pedders.. But if your gonna compare to a vette on the track, dont compete against a base model thern brag that yours rocks it.... and more like 700 lbs lighter or so not 1500... at least compare to a z06 like most are familiar with....
Take note im not gonna bring the stock zr1 into the pic....
Either way great job on the car... I just disagree with your misleading advertising... press asked you my ass, cuz people would see it wasnt a z your comparing to, but in fact a base, soft suspension-ed for 60+ year olds base model c6, CHeese base tire sizes pointed it out to me..
wouldnt bother me if you didnt talk like you beat the best stock vette...
its like comparing a modded v8 to a stock v6...
Plz give some apples to apples comparisons with a z06vette, which is what every corvette is meant to have as its tuned for the car by gm on the nurburgring for handling, the base c6 & c5 are tuned for speed bumps at the grocery store & veterans club..., just because the average age of owners is over 60... thank god im only half way.
anyways, Nuttin beats over a foot of meat up front, I luv it!
It is hard to make tic for tac comparisons on a same day without a Z06 or a ZR1. Few people want to have someone drive their Vette flat out on a track. The closest we could come is for all of you to see the ZR1 follow the Pedders Camaro. With the brief clips, you can definately see the brakes on the ZR1 are far superior to the OE brakes we had. But you can also see the Zr1 could not follow the same aggressive line thru the corner. A Camaro will never be a ZR1. But comparing a modified Camaro to a $120K Corvette, at least in this application, shows the value of the upgrades on the Pedders Camaro. What needs to be compared is Camaro to Camaro. Hopefully this will occur this year at the Optima Challenge where we are comparing apples to apples. No other 2010 Camaro could come even close to the Pedders Camaro. We now have better brakes, and more aggressive remote reservior dampers. So we are looking at a 3-4 second lower track time at Optima next year. So we will see what everyone else does.

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Hey Pete,
I like! Let me know when you have a set ready and I will road trip it on up to Fredricksberg for an install, along with a few bushings....ok a lot of bushings and sways.
My CCW's and Nittos should be here next week, sure could use the drop and a break from the salt mine.
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Hey Pete,
I like! Let me know when you have a set ready and I will road trip it on up to Fredricksberg for an install, along with a few bushings....ok a lot of bushings and sways.
My CCW's and Nittos should be here next week, sure could use the drop and a break from the salt mine.
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How are you dealing with the speedometer? Are you able to recalibrate it for the new wheel size?
This is really easy to do, its so easy its not worth pedders mentioning it.

Because you can do it with any tuner, and you dont really need to have any knowledge in tuning, you just scroll down and you can set your speedometer to the wheel size you have.
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We moved to production, but I want to hold off on an announcement until we are closer to a ship date. This is a very special project to me. They have been years in the making. I expect them to ship on my birthday
Well I hope it is soon so I can help you celebrate!
Figure I can be the test car for the second set....bet you are already running them.
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My birthday ios getting very close...
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Old 03-30-2010, 12:54 PM   #144
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If you like the wheels on Pete's Camaro we will get them for you. In fact we have a set of the Forge Line wheels with Potenza RE11 tires mounted on them at our shop now. We are waiting for the weather to break. Then the plan is to do a base car test at the track, then install the Pedders Track II XA kit and wheels and then take the Camaro to the track again.
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Old 06-22-2010, 06:26 PM   #145
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The RE-11 Brigestones are holding up amazingly well. We have almost 10K on them and I keep saying I'll replace them after the next track session. We'll I am driving them to the GM Nationals this weekend and plan on using them for one more track session.

This is directly related to the stability of the ZETA II chassis and Pedders suspension components. The more stable the platform the longer the tires last because they are not squirming and scrubbing away tread as you drive. Please stop by the ProCharger booth to check out the tread wear -- even with a very aggressive alignment.
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The Bridgestone RE-11s gave up the ghost at just under 12K. The rear were good for another track session, but the front inners were close to cords because of the just over 2 degrees of negative camber and total 1 degree of toe out we run Think about that for a minute. 12k with these ridiculous alignment specifications! If I could rotate front to rear (I can't as the offsets are different) we could easily have extended the life to 15K or more.

The more stable your suspension is (Pedders bushes, coilovers and bars keep the 5th Gen suspension well controlled) the longer you will be able to run your expensive performance tires, even with aggressive alignment settings.
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wow, what a wealth of info this thread has become...

so my first question is will PEDDERS be releasing a suspension kit that will be needed to run this same wheel and tire combo..
i am very interested in this set-up, and would hope that it could be had with just springs, swqays and bushings...
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Pete, after reading this thread over again, how much of a handling difference will be made to a stock SS Camaro in your opinion, by just switching from the stock 245/20's & 275/20's to 275/19 Fronts & 305/19's Rears? Before any coilovers, bushings and sway bars are added.
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Great question.

Understeer will be reduced. The car will be more planted with superior rubber. The 305/30/19s up front will cause the front end to search because of the compliance in the springs, dampers and radius bushes. You will notice more body lean and roll because the grip will have increased and you'll be taking the same corner faster. The suspension will struggle to keep the front rubber planted because once again you'll be able to operate at higher speeds and the OE dampers and coils are a bit light for this wheel and tire fitment.

It will be better, but not maximised for the new wheels and rubber.
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wow, what a wealth of info this thread has become...

so my first question is will PEDDERS be releasing a suspension kit that will be needed to run this same wheel and tire combo..
i am very interested in this set-up, and would hope that it could be had with just springs, sways and bushings...
Yes we are and some of the components are now GMPP products. You can order the Justice Package through your Pedders Suspension Specialist, your local GM Dealer or Pedders USA. All of the components are available individually as well.
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