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Old 08-21-2009, 01:06 AM   #101
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Old 08-22-2009, 08:00 AM   #102
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So let's get down to it. What's the cost of this STS setup? Dollars and cents? An where can I get one next month? September
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Old 08-22-2009, 08:41 AM   #103
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So let's get down to it. What's the cost of this STS setup? Dollars and cents? An where can I get one next month? September
You can expect this kit to cost around 6999 just like just abotu every other kit out there.

I can get you a kit. I will have access to some of the very first kits released.

I love what STS has done on some other vehicles, and I have driven a few of them!! You will be one happy Camaro driver!!
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Old 08-22-2009, 12:04 PM   #104
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STS has been producing rear mounted kits since 2003. Alot of people (including myself) questioned how good a rear mounted turbo would work. The results have been good and I get alot of good feedback from customers. As mentioned on the last page. boost starts to come on in the upper 2000 RPM range. And from there, the tach quickly starts to sweep to redline. I've installed a number of these and had one on my '04 GTO. I later sold that car and the next owner took it to the next level with a head/cam upgrade. I believe he was around 600 rwhp.

Alot of people ask about water getting into the system. You have to be driving through some pretty deep stuff to have an issue. I wouldn't recommend driving through water that deep even without the turbo. STS had a video of a truck driving through water on a beach. No problems! Pre-filters are available. They are pretty much like socks that slide over the filter if you want added piece of mind.
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Old 08-22-2009, 02:27 PM   #105
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Old 08-22-2009, 07:53 PM   #106
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Old 08-23-2009, 06:14 AM   #107
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You can expect this kit to cost around 6999 just like just abotu every other kit out there.

I can get you a kit. I will have access to some of the very first kits released.

I love what STS has done on some other vehicles, and I have driven a few of them!! You will be one happy Camaro driver!!
I need one now though. An I only need 427rwhp or 454rwhp (which would be freakin' SuperSweet). STS please support ZZ. Do I have to beg, because there are some things I'm not above when the need is great.

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STS has been producing rear mounted kits since 2003. Alot of people (including myself) questioned how good a rear mounted turbo would work. The results have been good and I get alot of good feedback from customers. As mentioned on the last page. boost starts to come on in the upper 2000 RPM range. And from there, the tach quickly starts to sweep to redline. I've installed a number of these and had one on my '04 GTO. I later sold that car and the next owner took it to the next level with a head/cam upgrade. I believe he was around 600 rwhp.

Alot of people ask about water getting into the system. You have to be driving through some pretty deep stuff to have an issue. I wouldn't recommend driving through water that deep even without the turbo. STS had a video of a truck driving through water on a beach. No problems! Pre-filters are available. They are pretty much like socks that slide over the filter if you want added piece of mind.
First, thanks for the good info. Seen quite a bit of that from, it is much appreciated.

Second, no offense but. How in the world do you pronounce your name.
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Old 08-23-2009, 08:14 AM   #108
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First, thanks for the good info. Seen quite a bit of that from, it is much appreciated.

Second, no offense but. How in the world do you pronounce your name.
Your very welcome! It is pronounced t-burn I've been talking to a local customer about possibly having an STS kit installed here after it's released. We need some more turbo cars in this area!

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Old 08-24-2009, 04:58 PM   #109
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this is really sparking my interest! i want a turbo!
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Old 08-24-2009, 05:00 PM   #110
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this is really sparking my interest! i want a turbo!
STS is a great option if you are looking for a great performing, and mild installation difficulty.

I am confident that STS is going to come through very soon.
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Old 08-24-2009, 05:02 PM   #111
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1320junkie are you thinking what im thinking? Turbos catch on fire? there away from the engine there even cooler making them even less likely. Ive never even heard of that happening. Am i wrong please tell me!
I have never heard of that either..but I'm not to in the know about everything "turbo" so I shall digress..i know on video games when you hit "traingle" for turbo fires coimes out of the exhaust
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Old 08-24-2009, 05:22 PM   #112
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I have never heard of that either..but I'm not to in the know about everything "turbo" so I shall digress..i know on video games when you hit "traingle" for turbo fires coimes out of the exhaust
I thought it was L1 or R1...
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Old 08-24-2009, 05:46 PM   #114
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Old 08-24-2009, 05:50 PM   #115
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any idea on when this kit would be available? what psi springs does it have in it? i want to make 550rwhp in my manual.
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Old 08-24-2009, 05:51 PM   #116
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oh and is there enough room for me to fit a 315 on the back still with the turbo piping in the back?
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Old 08-24-2009, 07:03 PM   #117
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oh and is there enough room for me to fit a 315 on the back still with the turbo piping in the back?
Yes!! It is not inside the tire area.
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Old 08-24-2009, 07:13 PM   #118
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Old 08-24-2009, 07:55 PM   #119
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We prototyped and built the only (as far as I know) STS setup for the 3800 market a few years ago on a Grand Prix. The setup works and produces some good power. I believe with the universal kit before intercooler the normally 162 fwhp Grand Prix GT made about 320 fwhp and went low 12's on about 9psi.

With the addition of an A2A intercooler the owner has added some more boost and is looking to improve on those numbers. The only problem for vendors wanting to make their own rear mount kits is that STS holds the patent for rear mounting a turbo and their license fees can be expensive.
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Old 08-24-2009, 08:28 PM   #120
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The only problem for vendors wanting to make their own rear mount kits is that STS holds the patent for rear mounting a turbo and their license fees can be expensive.

excuse my ignorance but how can someone hold a patent on turbo placement? that would be like procharger holding a patent for a front mount supercharger. i can understand the parts used and the design but i fail to see how the location can be patented.
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Old 08-24-2009, 08:40 PM   #121
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any idea on when this kit would be available? what psi springs does it have in it? i want to make 550rwhp in my manual.
They can set up the kit to whatever psi boost that you want. The 2nd kit going out is getting installed on my 2SS/RS M6 in the 1st to 2nd week in September. We are going to run at 7psi. 550 to 600rwhp is what is expected for 7psi.
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Old 08-24-2009, 09:12 PM   #122
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i have to ask..what do you guys think will happen in the winter time?
i dont want to run my car in the winter but the fact is sometiumes the winter car gets laid up and it might have to get me to work.
im intersetd in a set up for the 6....
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Old 08-26-2009, 12:54 AM   #123
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You guys are some of the worst "Car Guy's" I have ever come across. Most seem to know nothing about power adders and a few are darn right stupid. This remote kit, in one form or another has been available for almost 20 years, through an assortment of vendors. These kits were originally installed on higher priced cars, were the owners wanted a very clean and professional looking job, nothing to devalue the price of their expensive cars. Yes, you are most use to seeing hack jobs, where others cram the Turbo's into the hood area, which might seem normal and maybe tough looking. But, the fact is most under-hood turbo installs turn into a lifelong series of troubles. The excessive heat produced by the added and exposed exhaust system and related pieces takes it's tool on surrounding components and they eventually fail. Wiring melts, sensors get out of calibration and under hood temps eventually over-come any real gains. Turbo technology has come a very long way in the last several years. We now have the materials to make turbo charging a very effective and viable means to increase the performance and efficiency of the modern engine. That long route to the back of the car, can easily be over-come with the proper selection of turbines, housings and routing. In a conventional installation, the front mounted Turbo's, route the air forward to the front mounted coolers, then back to the engine. when all is said and done, there isn't that much difference between the length of the intake tubing between a front or rear mounted turbo installation. There is however a difference, between the supply side or hot side turbine distance, which can easily be overcome with the right selection of parts. In the end, the neater looking, cooler, stock appearing engine compartment is better off with the rear-mounted turbo installation. As for the water concerns, there are obvious limitations. You can see that the intake air filters for the system are mounted to collect air from the top of the rear fender wells, you would have to drive through water deep enough to enter the bottom of the car doors before it could enter the air system. If you're really that stupid, to drive your new Camaro through that deep of water, with a new rear mounted, twin turbo system, then perhaps you really don't deserve a car like that? Just a thought… Again, most front mounted twin turbo systems have their air intake systems mounted much lower, with the air filter mounted to the front of each front tire, and below the floor pan......much lower then up in the rear fender well!
I think too many times when one say's there negative comments, like Turbo's belong on V-6's, or Turbo's are stupid or they will have killer lag....What they are really trying to say is " I don't have one or the money to purchase one, so therefore those that do have the means and the cars with the parts, are stupid" or " if I had one it would be the best thing since sliced bread, but because I don't, it's no good" What a lame way to go through life.
Thank you very much. I appreciate all the good information very much.


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Your very welcome! It is pronounced t-burn I've been talking to a local customer about possibly having an STS kit installed here after it's released. We need some more turbo cars in this area!

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Hey, how is that STS kit working out?
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Old 08-26-2009, 10:20 AM   #124
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