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Old 08-15-2009, 11:34 AM   #1
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Question 700hp!! How?

I was wondering if any one could tell me how i can get my camaro LS3 up to or around 700hp or more? I do Know that I most likley will have to have a supercharger and what else? My cousin is getting a mustang 500gt but the dealership said they can give it around 700hp. My cousin is a big ford fan and i want to blow him out of the water with my camaro!
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You can make a ton of horsepower but if you are not hooking it doesnt matter also work on your driving skills...now are you talking about 700 at the rear wheel or at the engine?
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I was wondering if any one could tell me how i can get my camaro LS3 up to or around 700hp or more? I do Know that I most likley will have to have a supercharger and what else? My cousin is getting a mustang 500gt but the dealership said they can give it around 700hp. My cousin is a big ford fan and i want to blow him out of the water with my camaro!
There are quite a few speed shops on the forums here that are doing some big hp packages. I have the Lingenfelter 570hp package but they have higher hp options available. Check this link out. LPE did a great job on my car!
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As far as driving goes i can smoke my cousin i just need around 700hp at the motor to run about even with him. I m triyin to make it fair here lol.
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big block... you know 700 hp is gonna break drivetrain parts, right?
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Old 08-15-2009, 01:04 PM   #6
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I figured it would! Seriously what all does it take to get it to 700hp with out it falling apart on me. I know its possible if ford dealership can make a mustang 700hp under warranty why cant i make my camaro 700hp and forget the warranty would i be better of to buy the 700hp camaro from Hennessey?
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Go to the Lingenfelter page and have a look at the packages. The 750hp LS7 package runs almost $50k though...
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700 HP will cost $$$ - you will need to upgrade almost everything under the hood.
as others pointed out, you would need lingenfelter to get some kind of warranty (3 yr 36K) and it is not cheap.

Start with an LS7, add a supercharger with 10 PSI+, and replace all of the internals in the engine with top quality parts.

Same for the mustang.. if the Mustang dealer says that they can give you 700 HP without charging more than $30K, they are lying to you. The GT500 with the best of everything is ~500 HP and already supercharged and already has everything internal in the engine upgraded.

the top of the line ZR1 vette is only 632 HP and has very little to improve, as most parts are top shelf already. The price is at least $110K for that car.

You get what you pay for. If 700 HP was cheap we all would have that much and more.
I'll be happy with 570 HP, and a warranty from Lingenfelter. I will concentrate on the rest of the car (suspension, tires/wheels, lightening, wide body kit) and then come back to the engine when it expires - many years from now.
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700HP is a just a few dollars away.
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Old 08-15-2009, 05:32 PM   #11
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I was wondering if any one could tell me how i can get my camaro LS3 up to or around 700hp or more? I do Know that I most likley will have to have a supercharger and what else? My cousin is getting a mustang 500gt but the dealership said they can give it around 700hp. My cousin is a big ford fan and i want to blow him out of the water with my camaro!
Look no further...
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=36227
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...twisted+slayer
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=36934

All these are over 600rwhp (the twisted slayer at 7psi), 700hp flywheel and really are "fairly affordable"...vs what hennessey or LPE would charge you.

Especially if you do the work (or at least some of it), yourself.
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I was wondering if any one could tell me how i can get my camaro LS3 up to or around 700hp or more? I do Know that I most likley will have to have a supercharger and what else? My cousin is getting a mustang 500gt but the dealership said they can give it around 700hp. My cousin is a big ford fan and i want to blow him out of the water with my camaro!
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=32577 Our kit will be good for about 700whp. Check it out.
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I was wondering if any one could tell me how i can get my camaro LS3 up to or around 700hp or more? I do Know that I most likley will have to have a supercharger and what else? My cousin is getting a mustang 500gt but the dealership said they can give it around 700hp. My cousin is a big ford fan and i want to blow him out of the water with my camaro!
To answer your question;

Pull then engine, replace rods and pistons Lower compression, port cylinder heads install larger cam, Magnacharger or New Vortech kit set at 20 psi, larger injectors, larger fuel pump, or fuel pump voltage booster, Custom Dyno tune, Monster clutch, cat back exhaust, Big Sticky Tires.

This should easily put down 700 RWHP.

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Old 08-16-2009, 12:40 PM   #14
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Ok im a bit confused im getting some people telling me that ill have to spend close to 30k if not more to get my car up to 700hp and others are telling me i can get 700hp for around 10k. JTinFL? with your turbo mod your saying i can get around 700hp? what about Engine wear? Am i going to have to upgrade alot of the engine componets in order to run the turbo with out fear of my motor blowing up? Im no expert but i would think i would have to upgrade to forged parts?
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If your cousin is talking about the car I think he is, it doesn't have a warranty. There is the Ford Shelby GT500 Mustang King of the Road Super Snake (they are looking to make the name longer for next year). Anyway, with warranty it is around 600 hp, without its about 725 hp.

As for the Camaro, I'll tell you this much:

Of power, reliability, and cheap: pick 2
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Old 08-16-2009, 06:45 PM   #16
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Im not even considering getting a mustang i agree that the camaro is superior i just want a daily driving high horsepower camaro thats reliable. The number 700hp is not crucial to what i want just close to that number is what im shooting for. So say i get a single turbo like what JTinFl is offering is it advisable that i upgrade to forged parts? How long will the motor last running stock everything but the turbo?
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700+ horsepower on an otherwise stock Shelby GT500 is only a Kenne Bell/Whipple blower swap away. My previous car, a 2007 GT500, made right at 750hp at the crank on 93 octane and was my daily driver. At the track, I could put in some 104 unleaded and switch to the 2 7/8 pulley and make about 730-740rwhp.

It's going to take you a lot of money and time to get a Camaro to those power levels because the engine/drivetrain was never engineered for that kind of power and you'll have to bring it up to spec to keep it reliable.
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Old 08-16-2009, 07:44 PM   #18
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Thanks Garagelogic So lets see I need a new drivetrain all forged parts for the motor including rods pistons a high performance crank and cams and either a blower or a turbo did i miss anything?
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Thanks Garagelogic So lets see I need a new drivetrain all forged parts for the motor including rods pistons a high performance crank and cams and either a blower or a turbo did i miss anything?
Dude, pick a number? How much power do you want to make? The original post said 700 flywheel...I posted 3-4 links not including the dude selling the turbo kit. At this power level, the drivetrain and motor, should be good for a while...no one knows, but there are vettes that have put out this power level for a while on LS3's and have no issues...as far as the drivetrain...GM said the rearend was good to at least 600rwhp (ie 700fly wheel) so no upgrades needed there. We already discussed the engine, using the Vette LS3 example. The tranny, the only question mark...and most people feel now that the tailshaft has been addressed, everything should be good...but throw in a clutch upgrade if it helps you sleep at night...In other words...if you stop at 600rwhp (ie 700 fly wheel), and you have a good shop tune your car, you should be good for quite a while (you can't get specifics because there are too many variables here...could be 10,000 miles could be 50,000 miles, could be 100,000miles, each instance will likely be different). Point is, unless something out of the ordinary happens, it should last a while. If the GT500 is modded to make much more than this....then, you will be looking at what Garagelogic was saying...forged motor, rebuilt tranny, SRA rearend etc.

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You need Professional Help, No Pun intended

Jannetty Racing has been in business for 23 year with 28 years GM experience I can guide you through your project and meet your goals whether you will do the work your self, have a local shop do it for you or drop your car off for a turn key Professionally built 700 HP street car.

First we need to nail down 700 crank HP or 700 RWHP, I would shoot for 700 RWHP like many of the cars we do, of course there is a substantial price difference because your talking about a difference of about 100-125 Crank HP between the 2.

Making 700 hp is easy, Making 700 HP reliably takes experience, and don't be fooled in to thinking you can do it on the cheap because alot of other parts throughout the car will have to be upgraded to match the power output.

Above I layed out a recipe that is generally going to head you in the right direction.

The last thing we want to do is take a mint car and turn it in to a pile of junk no one wants, believe me alot of fly by night shops will do this for you and take your money buyer beware, do your research.

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You need Professional Help, No Pun intended

Jannetty Racing has been in business for 23 year with 28 years GM experience I can guide you through your project and meet your goals whether you will do the work your self, have a local shop do it for you or drop your car off for a turn key Professionally built 700 HP street car.

First we need to nail down 700 crank HP or 700 RWHP, I would shoot for 700 RWHP like many of the cars we do, of course there is a substantial price difference because your talking about a difference of about 100-125 Crank HP between the 2.

Making 700 hp is easy, Making 700 HP reliably takes experience, and don't be fooled in to thinking you can do it on the cheap because alot of other parts throughout the car will have to be upgraded to match the power output.

Above I layed out a recipe that is generally going to head you in the right direction.

The last thing we want to do is take a mint car and turn it in to a pile of junk no one wants, believe me alot of fly by night shops will do this for you and take your money buyer beware, do your research.

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I was wondering if any one could tell me how i can get my camaro LS3 up to or around 700hp or more? I do Know that I most likley will have to have a supercharger and what else? My cousin is getting a mustang 500gt but the dealership said they can give it around 700hp. My cousin is a big ford fan and i want to blow him out of the water with my camaro!
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Thanks everyone its been alot of help! I dont want to come off as a dumba$$. But i am a newbie. Thanks exspeacially to Jannettyracing. That post was exactly what i needed to hear. I maybe a newbie but i relize the kind of money it will take which will take me about a year to get to the 700rwhp goal i just dont want to take any shortcuts in my greed for hp. Im a newbie when it actually comes to mechanics but as far as driving high horsepower cars im a little more seasoned. My uncle has had several Hot rods around 700 to 800 hp power that i was fourtunate enough to drive.
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