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Old 08-16-2009, 11:13 PM   #1
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My dealer just told me my car won't be in till AFTER February...cancel or wait?

I tried to order this car in October, but couldn't find a dealer to sell for MSRP in Northern California. In May, a guy at my job drove up in one and he told me had gotten it for MSRP at a dealer near Sacramento. So, I got in touch with this dealer and they said they'd order for sticker, but I wouldn't likely get it till December. By the time I ordered 2 weeks later, they said they had gotten a new allocation and hopefully it would come in much sooner than they thought. I gave them my 1000 deposit and ordered the car on 6-18. It's been 8 weeks and I'm still at 1100, so I sent an email today and asked why I see so many guys ordering in July on Camaro5 who already have TPWs and they replied that I probably won't get the car till after Jan/Feb, and offered my deposit back, saying I should probably order elsewhere and if it came in early, I'd still get the MSRP deal. No reason why. Should I cancel and try again, knowing I still may not have it before Feb, or just wait it out? I know if they send back my check, I won't get a car from them, but I have no idea where else I can order now that I could get MSRP.

Anybody have any suggestions?

I was thinking about asking CamaroScotty, but he's probably tired of bailing out dealers who don't keep their end of the bargain, and I'm not sure how the dealers here would take a drop ship without killing me on "fees". Plus, I don't know if he even has any more allocation.

Sighhhh ....
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Old 08-16-2009, 11:20 PM   #2
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Cancel. Either get one elsewhere that has one on the lot, order one from a place that can "get" it, or wait for the 2011 model.
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Old 08-16-2009, 11:23 PM   #3
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HOLY CRAP, AFTER FEBRUARY?!?!

I didn't even have to read your entire post to know the answer to this one. Even a guy who's never bought a new car before (myself) can figure this one out: CANCEL! There's stories of people on here who have only waited 3 months to get theirs. There's other salesmen/dealers out there (some on this site) who can get you what you need, in a timely manner.
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Old 08-16-2009, 11:29 PM   #4
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Find another dealer. This is exactly what I did. Plenty of dealers with open allocations.
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Old 08-16-2009, 11:34 PM   #5
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Old 08-16-2009, 11:38 PM   #6
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i am in the same boat i am at 1100 for 2 months and i need my camaro before january because my lease ends but i got $500 off MSRP plus 500 more off when i get the car because of the deposit i placed. But im sticking with my dealer.
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Old 08-16-2009, 11:48 PM   #7
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CANCEL... I went from 2000-6000 in 6 weeks! Find an open allocaiton! I did wait 4 weeks for allcoation by choice. still 10 weeks from order to delivery is awesome in my book!
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Old 08-17-2009, 12:01 AM   #8
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cancel.......even if you order it from another state, there are a LOT of cheep flights out there, just fly to pick it up and drive back.
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Old 08-17-2009, 12:12 AM   #9
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Tom Henry, Tag had made a post the other day they have 8 left and are selling at MSRP. They are the one of the biggest dealer in the US.
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Old 08-17-2009, 12:30 AM   #10
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Old 08-17-2009, 12:43 AM   #11
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Not Sullivan

No, it was Family in Shingle Springs. I saw enough about Sullivan that I never even tried them. They were on my list though, till all the BS started. I talked to about 10 or 12 dealers throughout CA, even in SoCal, and got a constant runaround. Family said they'd still sell me the car if it comes in early and I have ordered elsewhere, but I'm sure if they send my deposit back, and the car comes in, I won't get it for MSRP, which means I won't get it.
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Old 08-17-2009, 12:55 AM   #12
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Well i guess it depends on how bad you want the car. Plus when you order a car with what you want on it vs buying one off the lot you can get it cheaper by cutting the stuff you want. Unless you can afford one loaded like alot on the lots are. Me and my wife were 36 on the waiting list here in Louisiana back in June. We are now ordering end of next week or early the following week. There cars have been coming in usually 6 or at the latest 8 weeks. Weve been going by checking as they come in. Whats weird though is we are in a smaller town than you. They should be able to get your car to you quicker than our dealer would to us. Are you sure they havent had your car come in and sold it?
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Old 08-17-2009, 01:04 AM   #13
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my order number is still at 1100 as of yesterday, same as it's been since 6-18. the dealer gave me no reason for the delay in his reply to my email. I don't intend to buy one off of the lot unless it's EXACTLY what I want, and I won't pay over MSRP, so ordering is my only likely way. Unfortunately, there are very few dealers in CA that I can find that will sell for MSRP at this time, so I will likely have to wait till spring anyway for the pricing pressure to ease. Consequently, I'm not sure whether I should try out of state or just wait till it comes in, or cancel it and wait till spring anyway.
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Old 08-17-2009, 01:53 AM   #14
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Try Mark Christopher Chevrolet in Ontario, California. They are right next to Ontario International Airport (ONT) so it would be easy to fly down and pick it up. They'd probably pick you up at the airport.

Call 909-390-6962 and ask for A.J.

They sell at MSRP. I ordered mine May 19 and I'll be picking it up either tomorrow or Tuesday. Karl who's in charge of ordering is good about keeping you updated on the status of your order too.
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Old 08-17-2009, 01:59 AM   #15
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Thanks, I tried Mark Christopher last fall and got a lot of conflicting answers, first it was sticker, then over sticker, then orders were MSRP + 1000, then back to sticker. I originally sent him the details of my order but he didn't respond after I made it official. I believe I saw a couple of posts on this forum about a VR RS they had on the floor with an adjustment of 13,000. I could be wrong about that, though. Thanks, maybe I'll try them again. I still get an occasional email from one of their salesmen about one that they got in.
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Old 08-17-2009, 01:59 AM   #16
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Try Dave Estacio @ Hanlees Chevy In Davis,Ca,He sells ay msrp and he might have a few allocations left. Good luck
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Old 08-17-2009, 02:11 AM   #17
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Sorry, the one that was +13000 was at Corona Chevrolet, not Mark Christopher
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Old 08-17-2009, 04:55 AM   #18
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Cannot imagine why the dealer is saying February --

What I DON'T know is how many 'sold' orders he already has - -but we have not given any allocation figures out that far.......
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Old 08-17-2009, 08:43 AM   #19
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Well, he didn't really give a reason, so I can't say...

Dennis, Right now it appears that it still wont be here after Jan./Feb. If you still want you may order somewhere else and we can give you your deposit back. Go ahead and order somewhere else if it comes in earlier great and we can give you your deposit back. At this time we havent even processed your check yet.
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Not sure what exactly he means, but I assume it's not going to be done anytime soon...LOL
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Old 08-17-2009, 08:54 AM   #20
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My guess is that someone came in after you offering more money (over sticker), their in, your out. Along with your deposit, did you get anything in writing (terms, price, sales agreement)?
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Old 08-17-2009, 08:56 AM   #21
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This is the whole email exchange...

Here is the whole email and reply:

Hi John,

Hope things are fine with you.

I haven't heard anything so I thought I'd drop you a quick email. I checked today on the Camaro5 forum and after 8 weeks I'm still at 1100 as of about 1:30pm.

Are there a significant number of orders in your allocation that are ahead of me? There are guys on the forum who ordered 7/31 and are already at 3000 with a TPW of 9/7.

I realize there are many variables, but I'm getting a little concerned that I haven't moved at all after 8 weeks when you said that your sister store had allocation.

Can you give me a little info, please?



Thanks,

Dennis .. NKZW5F.




Dennis, Right now it appears that it still wont be here after Jan./Feb. If you still want you may order somewhere else and we can give you your deposit back. Go ahead and order somewhere else if it comes in earlier great and we can give you your deposit back. At this time we havent even processed your check yet.
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Michael,
So, you guys didn't actually have allocation when I ordered? Or, I missed the group? What happened? John led me to believe that I was in on a new allocation group and he hoped to see it much earlier than the Nov/Dec timeframe he originally had said. Now you're saying not till AFTER Jan/Feb. That's a very big change.

What went wrong?

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Old 08-17-2009, 09:00 AM   #22
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No, they wouldn't give me anything in writing, although he did have me initial the order that I agreed to pay MSRP. Why it happened doesn't really bother me as much as deciding where to go from here. I don't care where I get the car, as long as i get one. Guess I may have to wait till spring when all of the BS stops.
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No, they wouldn't give me anything in writing
I hope you find a dealership who will put it in writing and provide you with great customer service. PLEASE, on your next venture "get it all in writing"! Good luck and the Camaro is worth the wait!!!
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Sorry to hear your troubles getting you a Camaro. I am admazed at some dealers that you can't get a Camaro, then you get a someone that orders a Camaro and the deal falls through. I hope that you do get a Camaro, don't give up and don't give up to second best. I ordered my Camaro 2SS RJT, Beige interoir. I was first in line and I got a call from the dealer advising me that a deal fell through. There will be a Camaro 2SS RJT Beige interoir coming Oct/Nov in Virginia. I think at MSRP.



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I tried to order this car in October, but couldn't find a dealer to sell for MSRP in Northern California. In May, a guy at my job drove up in one and he told me had gotten it for MSRP at a dealer near Sacramento. So, I got in touch with this dealer and they said they'd order for sticker, but I wouldn't likely get it till December. By the time I ordered 2 weeks later, they said they had gotten a new allocation and hopefully it would come in much sooner than they thought. I gave them my 1000 deposit and ordered the car on 6-18. It's been 8 weeks and I'm still at 1100, so I sent an email today and asked why I see so many guys ordering in July on Camaro5 who already have TPWs and they replied that I probably won't get the car till after Jan/Feb, and offered my deposit back, saying I should probably order elsewhere and if it came in early, I'd still get the MSRP deal. No reason why. Should I cancel and try again, knowing I still may not have it before Feb, or just wait it out? I know if they send back my check, I won't get a car from them, but I have no idea where else I can order now that I could get MSRP.

Anybody have any suggestions?

I was thinking about asking CamaroScotty, but he's probably tired of bailing out dealers who don't keep their end of the bargain, and I'm not sure how the dealers here would take a drop ship without killing me on "fees". Plus, I don't know if he even has any more allocation.

Sighhhh ....
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Old 08-17-2009, 09:24 AM   #25
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I agree.. cancel and find somewhere that has allocation for you.
I'm gonna be car less at the end of this week because my lease is up so I will have to rent a car until my camaro comes in... and i couldnt image waiting until feb!
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