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Old 08-19-2009, 01:17 PM   #1
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Sorry guys and girls, but…

…please don't get me wrong, it's wonderful that people are still passionate about cars. And Camaro owners are some of the most passionate out there. But when I review a vehicle, it's from an objective standpoint, despite the amount of flowery language I'll use.

As such, Motor Trend came to many of the conclusions that I did. Including the Mazda Miata being rated a better sports car.

I'll be testing a Camaro SS soon, after having driven one briefly two weeks ago at the GM proving grounds. Don't worry, I won't mention headroom or trunk space ever again.

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Not a single straight male drives a miata... I hope...
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Well I come back to the fact that you did not attempt to adjust the seat before making your headroom statement. With respect to your trunk space comment, what did you put in the trunk to test it's space? Have you tried to put two hockey bags in it? I have so I don't know how you could have made your comments and expect to be taken seriously.

That's really the issue regarding your desire to be accepted as a legitimate car reviewer - you made statements about the Camaro which can be proven untrue.

Regarding the Miata - smarten up! Putting both vehicles in the same market segment is only more proof of your incompetence in car reviewing.
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Still found it a completely useless review.
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Regarding the Miata - smarten up! Putting both vehicles in the same market segment is only more proof of your incompetence in car reviewing.
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The guy reviews cars and he published his review. Accordingly, his work should be open for criticism.
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You are entitled to your opinion and I mine. That's what makes the world go 'round. I absolutely love my Camaro and I'm not a Camaro apologist, I just plain like the car.
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…please don't get me wrong, it's wonderful that people are still passionate about cars. And Camaro owners are some of the most passionate out there. But when I review a vehicle, it's from an objective standpoint, despite the amount of flowery language I'll use.

As such, Motor Trend came to many of the conclusions that I did. Including the Mazda Miata being rated a better sports car.

I'll be testing a Camaro SS soon, after having driven one briefly two weeks ago at the GM proving grounds. Don't worry, I won't mention headroom or trunk space ever again.

Cheers, M!
I am not sure I get your point; does this mean you are buying a Miata instead of a Camaro? Bully for you!

Argh, here be trolls!
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Old 08-19-2009, 01:29 PM   #11
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Wannabees and Naysayers. I guess the ol' adage applies. You can't please everyone all the time. The Camaro has been the best thing to happen to America in a long time. Enough of the Miata's, Camry's et al. Haven't seen this much excitement in a car in a long time. Let him write his "little" reports and reviews. I respect the fact it's his job, someones got to do it or all we'd see is the reports on how wonderful the 2010 Camaro is.
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I'm not saying you cannot criticize him. I am saying to do it in a adult-like, respectable manner!
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Obviously we'd like it to be respectful criticism.... But criticism none the less.

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Nah, this doesn't bother me one bit. Come on, Laguna Seca?!!? Of course the heavier cars will do badly on this course. The track is perfect for M3, 911, Miata and similar cars and motorcyles. Nonetheless, how many Camaro or Mustang or Challenger buyers actually buy these cars with the intent of circling a track like Laguna Seca, Willow Springs, et al. in their stock suspension set up? Opinions on appearance and driver comfort are all relative/subjective to each individual.
But they/you got one thing absolutely correct, the Camaro SS is a boulevard brute and that is partly the main reason why I bought mine, a pretty nice canvas to draw more HP on if so desired IMO. The awesome exterior appearance is just a bonus.

Thank you very much, Mustang man.
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I respect the fact it's his job, someones got to do it or all we'd see is the reports on how wonderful the 2010 Camaro is.
I'd be happy with just honest reviews instead of guys who write their reviews to "go against the grain".
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camaro is not a sports car, it's a muscle car. People buy the camaro because

1) it looks cool
2) goes farily fast in a straight line, 0-60, 1/4 etc.
3) reasonable cost

they don't buy it for the gauges, as your review seems to suggest. I don't give a rip that it comes from GM (apparently you do), if toyota made this car I would buy it.

if you want a car that will drive around cones quickly then there are much better alternatives. If fuel mileage is your concern again much better options out there than a camaro. If gauges are your primary concern in buying a car then perhaps the camaro is just not your cup of tea.

This car is fun, miata's are not fun to me any way.
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Understeer is the biggest flaw that I have seen in the 2 weeks I have the car.
Why they went stagger and this crazy understeer baffles me. I almost bought a guard rail the other night.
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Old 08-19-2009, 01:39 PM   #18
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426 HP, Miata ?, Coolest Car ?, Muscle Car Icon ? WOW Factor ? Cased Closed CAMARO hands down

If you want trunk room buy a truck.
You want head room but a vert.

This car is completely awesome and no car reviewer is going to change my mind. The Camaro fills a niche market, people who want a cool car with lots of hp, wow factor. I know they have to sell magazines but honestly it took only one look of this car to KNOW I was getting one.
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seriously, why register to make this your first post... useless... you are preaching to the choir who really doesn't care what your opinion is of the car.... a Miata, c'mon?
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Not a single straight male drives a miata... I hope...
I wouldn't buy one because a Miata looks like a lil' toy car to me.

...and I'm a chick.
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As anyone on this forum knows, I LOVE, LOVE, LOVE MY CAMARO!!!!!!!!...

Is it perfect?....no
Do I care?....no
I don't expect ANY car or truck or house or boat or PERSON to ever be 100% PERFECT....

That being said, did I mention that I LOVE, LOVE, LOVE MY CAMARO!!!...
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Looks to me like this guy is just trying to drive up traffic to his column...

He posted once then split knowing he was gonna spin us up...

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I Sir (see I'm being nice) am amused that you got your feelings hurt by our review of your biased review. So much so that you had to come here and try to defend your self.
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As anyone on this forum knows, I LOVE, LOVE, LOVE MY CAMARO!!!!!!!!...

Is it perfect?....no
Do I care?....no
I don't expect ANY car or truck or house or boat or PERSON to ever be 100% PERFECT....

That being said, did I mention that I LOVE, LOVE, LOVE MY CAMARO!!!...
So tell me how you really feel.


I know the problem with the review, his had a trunk monkey in it and took care of the review.LOL
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