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Old 08-20-2009, 06:14 PM   #1
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Your preferred products for BLACK cars?

People with black paint are often a lot more anal about their paint than other color owners, and as such tend to try many products.

What are your preferred products for black paint?

If I'm going to go the wax route I love the outcome of this combo:
-Klasse All-In-One
-Poorboys Black Hole Glaze
-Collinite No. 476s (Have tried Souveran and Wolfgang Fuzion... 476 gives similar results and lasts about 40 times longer)

If I'm doing Zaino, which is my more preferred method lately I use this setup:
-Z-AIO
-Z-5 Pro (2 Coat)
-Z-2 Pro (1 Coats)
-With Z-6 in between coats
-Z-8 to finish

On the topic of zaino has anyone tried z-cs? I'm not sure I like the idea of it.

The zaino route tends to be a lot more work, but is very durable paint protection. I'll take durable over a slight change in looks any day on black.

So what products have worked for you?

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Old 08-20-2009, 07:37 PM   #2
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Just did the Zaino treatment yesterday and I have to say it's some top notch products. This isn't my first black car and I've tried all kinds of over the counter products they can't compare to Zaino. Awesome product. I did two coats of Z-5 and one coat of Z-2.
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Old 08-20-2009, 08:15 PM   #3
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Blackfire Wet Diamond Paint Sealant, Zaino Z2 & Z5 and last of all Collinite.
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Old 08-20-2009, 09:18 PM   #4
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Blackfire Wet Diamond Paint Sealant, Zaino Z2 & Z5 and last of all Collinite.
You use that as a combo? I have always heard mixing zaino with carnauba was a no no as later applications of zaino wouldn't bond to the carnauba? If it works I may try it!

I've heard good things about blackfire but have never tried it.
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Old 08-21-2009, 06:38 AM   #5
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No, I don't use that combo. It's my suggestion only because these are proven products that will last on you ride.
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Old 08-22-2009, 02:04 PM   #6
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Zaino. Simple as that.
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Old 08-22-2009, 02:06 PM   #7
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Old 08-22-2009, 06:37 PM   #8
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Zaino is awesome, but it is possible to put wax over Zaino. I don't see any reason for it however.
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Old 08-22-2009, 06:38 PM   #9
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Old 08-22-2009, 09:30 PM   #10
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First time Zaino user and now a huge fan!
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Old 08-24-2009, 09:36 PM   #11
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Poorboys Black Hole Glaze like you mentioned makes black cars look awesome. It's not a sealant or wax tho. Have you tried Poorboys Natty's Blue wax?
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Old 08-24-2009, 10:06 PM   #12
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Poorboys Black Hole Glaze like you mentioned makes black cars look awesome. It's not a sealant or wax tho. Have you tried Poorboys Natty's Blue wax?
Have not tried blue but I've heard great things about it!
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Old 08-25-2009, 06:52 AM   #13
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Zaino.

2~3 coats of Z5, followed by 1~2 coats of Z2 with Z6 between each coat.

Just when you think the paint looks like liquid ebony, top it off with a Z8 wipedown.

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Old 08-25-2009, 07:42 AM   #14
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1. Megiars clay kit
2. Meguiars crystal cleaner
3. Meguiars show car glaze #7
4. Meguiars NXT tech wax 2.0
5. Meguiars ultimate quick detail

These are the steps I went through to wax and clean my car for this first time. I was very, very impressed. Very time consuming though. About 8-10 hrs. before everything was applied and that was just with one coat of wax.
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Old 08-25-2009, 08:39 AM   #15
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I have read many, many times not to mix manufacture's brands as they are formulated to compliment each other, ie., polish-wax.I have been guilty of mixing but I try to maintain. I favor Liquid Glass paint cleaner simply because it seems to do the best job of bringing out the color and removing the cloudy haze. Then top off with the polish/wax by Liquid Glass. The best shine? Can't say, but it is so easy to wipe on and buff off. Also 3M has to be considered perhaps the premier maker of hemicals fo many applications. Their product line is probably the most diverse in the country. Zaino.....too much work!
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Old 08-25-2009, 08:56 AM   #16
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People with black paint are often a lot more anal about their paint than other color owners, and as such tend to try many products.

What are your preferred products for black paint?

If I'm going to go the wax route I love the outcome of this combo:
-Klasse All-In-One
-Poorboys Black Hole Glaze
-Collinite No. 476s (Have tried Souveran and Wolfgang Fuzion... 476 gives similar results and lasts about 40 times longer)

If I'm doing Zaino, which is my more preferred method lately I use this setup:
-Z-AIO
-Z-5 Pro (2 Coat)
-Z-2 Pro (1 Coats)
-With Z-6 in between coats
-Z-8 to finish

On the topic of zaino has anyone tried z-cs? I'm not sure I like the idea of it.

The zaino route tends to be a lot more work, but is very durable paint protection. I'll take durable over a slight change in looks any day on black.

So what products have worked for you?
My co-worker uses the Z-CS ( clear seal ) on his new silver CTS he swears by it. I for one swear by Zaino products. The biggest problem most people have with Zaino ( and it's their fault ) is that they put to much on. Thin coats, especially Z-CS works best. VERY VERY light coats of Z-6 after washing my black car is all that is needed to keep her shiney as hell. I clay bar the car twice a year. Everybody remarks at how great the car looks.
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Old 08-25-2009, 09:18 AM   #17
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Old 08-25-2009, 09:20 AM   #18
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Zaino.....too much work!
I disagree, if you follow the directions Zaino is the easiest, most durable product on the market!

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Old 08-25-2009, 11:25 AM   #19
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People with black paint are often a lot more anal about their paint than other color owners, and as such tend to try many products.

What are your preferred products for black paint?

If I'm going to go the wax route I love the outcome of this combo:
-Klasse All-In-One
-Poorboys Black Hole Glaze
-Collinite No. 476s (Have tried Souveran and Wolfgang Fuzion... 476 gives similar results and lasts about 40 times longer)

If I'm doing Zaino, which is my more preferred method lately I use this setup:
-Z-AIO
-Z-5 Pro (2 Coat)
-Z-2 Pro (1 Coats)
-With Z-6 in between coats
-Z-8 to finish

On the topic of zaino has anyone tried z-cs? I'm not sure I like the idea of it.

The zaino route tends to be a lot more work, but is very durable paint protection. I'll take durable over a slight change in looks any day on black.

So what products have worked for you?
One comment. Z-AIO ( all in one ) is the old Z-2 with a cleaner. You're using Z-2 Pro. The all in one is not necessary. But..it's your money. IMO Z-2 Pro; Z-5 once in awhile, and Z-6 ok Z- 8 for a show is all that you should need for a black or any color car. Especially if it's a daily driver.
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Old 08-25-2009, 07:45 PM   #20
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I HAVE TWO BLACK ONES.A FOUR DOOR DUALLY.I USE FORMULA 113 OR ANOTHER GREAT WAX IS ADAMS POLISH,BOTH CAN BE APPLIED IN DIRECT SUNLIGHT AND YOU WIPE THEM OFF RIGHT AWAY.THEY WILL NOT TURN ANY RUBBER PARTS YOU GET THEM ON WHITE.HIGHLY RECOMMENDED
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Old 08-25-2009, 08:00 PM   #21
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Adams i like it better for the simple fact it doesnt take as long as zaino. Both great products cant go wrong with either of them. For daily driver i just use ice cause i hate waxing a big suv and ice is super fast to use.

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Old 08-25-2009, 09:22 PM   #22
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One comment. Z-AIO ( all in one ) is the old Z-2 with a cleaner. You're using Z-2 Pro. The all in one is not necessary. But..it's your money. IMO Z-2 Pro; Z-5 once in awhile, and Z-6 ok Z- 8 for a show is all that you should need for a black or any color car. Especially if it's a daily driver.
I've been told by sal at zaino that zaio is the best base to start with... could be a waste of money, but its spent and the results work good! haha
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Old 08-26-2009, 06:50 AM   #23
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Zaino would be my first pick. But I have heard great things about
Red moose glaze followed by souveren or wolfgang 3.0 sealant for black.
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Old 08-26-2009, 08:38 AM   #24
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Zaino would be my first pick. But I have heard great things about
Red moose glaze followed by souveren or wolfgang 3.0 sealant for black.
Black hole turns out even nicer than RMG
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Old 08-26-2009, 01:22 PM   #25
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Formula 113

I know some of you guys are going to think I work for this company, but please believe me I don't. I'm getting nothing for this. I tried this stuff on my Camaro and it has to be the best finish that ever seen. I watched this guy put it on his black vette and it really looked great. Everyone who uses it, raves about it. Just try it. It goes on easy, wipes off easy. You can put this on under direct sun light, I know for a fact because I did it. I was going to "clay" my camaro because it had a "gritty" feeling to the touch, but after using this wax only 2 times it is as clean as glass. this is worth a shot, try it.
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