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Old 07-07-2013, 12:56 AM   #2476
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fuse pull

guys this really works! Its nice to have a site like this where the info in priceless!
Love it! My camaro is a beast now!
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Old 07-08-2013, 06:49 AM   #2477
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Probably right that they don't put it in every car, but for the cars that require premium I can see it.

I would agree with you that it "makes sense" but to the bean counters it's just an extra cost to eat away at the profits. When I worked on the line at Ford I knew they put 87 in every car that went down the line, and three of the five models we made "required" at least mid-grade according to their manuals.

While I don't know if this is still the case, did you know the factory would short EVERY vehicle one half quart of oil in the engine and tranny? The dealers are required to check and top off all of the fluids before delivery. So by shorting every car 1/2 quart of oil they essentially filled every 12th car with oil for free (@ 6 Qrt per.) We generally put about 400 cars across the end of the line each shift. If they filled every car with 6 quarts that would be 2,400 quarts of oil every 8 hours of production! By shorting each vehicle only half a quart and making the dealers top them off, they would save 200 quarts per shift, or fill just over 36 cars per shift with 5.5 quarts of oil for free. Now that I've put you to sleep with today's math lesson you can see how the added cost of just using a .10 cent more expensive per gallon gasoline would hurt the bottom line. And, I've only given you the numbers for one shift's production on a single day. The numbers are staggering once put into context.

Sorry, I know I got a little carried away there, but I'm sure you get the point.
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Old 07-09-2013, 06:45 AM   #2478
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Quick question...will doing this fuse pull reset your radio settings or anything?
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Old 07-09-2013, 10:21 AM   #2479
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Quick question...will doing this fuse pull reset your radio settings or anything?
Nope. Only clears the logs.
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Old 07-09-2013, 12:02 PM   #2480
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I feel like it doesn't do anything
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Old 07-10-2013, 07:27 PM   #2481
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This totally works. Just did it on the 1le. Very noticable. Ill check mpg on new tank.
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Old 07-10-2013, 07:46 PM   #2482
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so here's a stupid question - I did this last month, and have put nothing but chevron 93 in the car since then. As long as I continue to run the 93, I never have to do a fuse pull again? Is there any set of circumstances where it might slip back to an 87 setting?
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Old 07-10-2013, 11:24 PM   #2483
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so here's a stupid question - I did this last month, and have put nothing but chevron 93 in the car since then. As long as I continue to run the 93, I never have to do a fuse pull again? Is there any set of circumstances where it might slip back to an 87 setting?
Fuse pull smuse pull...get a tune and never look back!!

But to answer your question... no once you do it as long as you never put anything but 93 in again you should be good to go!
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Old 07-13-2013, 01:41 PM   #2484
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so here's a stupid question - I did this last month, and have put nothing but chevron 93 in the car since then. As long as I continue to run the 93, I never have to do a fuse pull again? Is there any set of circumstances where it might slip back to an 87 setting?
unfortunately you will never know for sure. If a station "accidently" puts 87 in the 93 tank...guess what??? Back to the reduced power. Im very leary about this procedure, as I ran 87 for a month. Just started running premium and did the fuse pull...noticed NO difference.
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Old 07-13-2013, 06:34 PM   #2485
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If you have not done this DO IT!!!!!!!

I have a 2013 ss vert and it was such a dog. I did this at work the other day for an hour or so. On my way home i pulled under an over pass, stopped and put it to the floor OMG i almost lost it.
This car wouldn't even chip the tires off the line when i first got it. Now it spins thru 1st and 2nd like nothing from just punching it!!!!! AND my mileage went up!

I ask you what do you have to lose?
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Old 07-15-2013, 11:26 PM   #2486
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Ok been reading up on this I have a 2013 L99 SS with auto of course. The car had 100 miles on it when I bought & was sold to me as a used car as GM had licensed it briefly which saved me a pile of dough. The dealer filled it up with 87 no doubt but don't know for sure.

Around here the Octane is 91 for the high end. I use the Shell V-Power now as it is Top Tier certified. I can get 94 but it is scarce & there is no 93 period.

So my question is does this still affect the 2013's & if I'm only using 91 will the fuse pull of 5 & 20 do me any good? Can I hurt my car doing this? The car is running well & seems to be pretty darn quick.

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Old 07-16-2013, 10:45 PM   #2487
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guessing fuse pull doesn't work on a v6
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Old 07-17-2013, 01:24 PM   #2488
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Correct, does not do anything on the V6
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Old 07-17-2013, 01:27 PM   #2489
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Ok been reading up on this I have a 2013 L99 SS with auto of course. The car had 100 miles on it when I bought & was sold to me as a used car as GM had licensed it briefly which saved me a pile of dough. The dealer filled it up with 87 no doubt but don't know for sure.

Around here the Octane is 91 for the high end. I use the Shell V-Power now as it is Top Tier certified. I can get 94 but it is scarce & there is no 93 period.

So my question is does this still affect the 2013's & if I'm only using 91 will the fuse pull of 5 & 20 do me any good? Can I hurt my car doing this? The car is running well & seems to be pretty darn quick.

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Old 07-17-2013, 01:44 PM   #2490
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high octane IS 91 or 93, depends on where you live, 91 is fine.
Haven't had to do fuse pull for 3 1/2 years, some do it to make sure its still high octane table, if it was needed and you did fuse pull, you will forever know what high octane table feels like.
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Old 07-17-2013, 02:01 PM   #2491
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Just did this to my 2012 LS3 last Sunday after running a 1/4 tank of Shell 93 through it; it had been on 87 for about 2 years. I can't say I noticed a TON more power as if I switched octane tables etc... but it definitely has changed some things. The engine sounds a little different and does pull a bit more, most noticeable when flooring it at low rpms or when it's getting near redline, it idles better, and the tank lasts a little longer. To summarize in my experience on an LS3 car it's hard to say for sure if the whole "2 table not switching etc..." myth is true or not BUT 91/93 is what's intended for the car and will unquestionably make it run better.

I'll get back down to the strip to see if I can drop any time off my ET or pick up a few more mph running the premium fuel. I've only been once though and my best run was a 13.9@105, I get the feeling I could crush that now on 87 octane just by dropping the rear tire pressure and being lighter w the clutch (I did absolutely zero track prep). I guess if I see consistent improvements in trap speed it's a pretty good indication of the premium fuel netting me a few ponies.
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Old 07-17-2013, 03:13 PM   #2492
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" myth is true or not BUT 91/93 is what's intended for the car and will unquestionably make it run better.
It only took ya 2 years to realize this!!
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Old 07-17-2013, 03:47 PM   #2493
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It only took ya 2 years to realize this!!


Yeah well I think I always knew but 40 cents more a gallon is a lot and denial is strong....... but yeah no excuse really. At least I learned it here!
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Old 07-17-2013, 04:39 PM   #2494
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Yeah well I think I always knew but 40 cents more a gallon is a lot and denial is strong....... but yeah no excuse really. At least I learned it here!
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Old 07-21-2013, 11:10 PM   #2495
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I did this last night on my brand new 1LE right after driving it to empty the tank for the first time (or nearly emptying it and I filled it with 91 Shell.)

First of all my car was running pretty strong from the get go and my dealer said he filled it up with premium when it was delivered. So I think my car may have already been using the high octane table. I detected little to no difference today and if anything my car now gets worse mileage but that's probably just me enjoying the heck out of the car. Just thought I would share and see what others think.
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Old 07-21-2013, 11:14 PM   #2496
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I did this last night on my brand new 1LE right after driving it to empty the tank for the first time (or nearly emptying it and I filled it with 91 Shell.)

First of all my car was running pretty strong from the get go and my dealer said he filled it up with premium when it was delivered. So I think my car may have already been using the high octane table. I detected little to no difference today and if anything my car now gets worse mileage but that's probably just me enjoying the heck out of the car. Just thought I would share and see what others think.
Run a tank or two through it with good gas then do it again for shits and giggles.

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Old 07-26-2013, 06:17 AM   #2497
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just did this fuse pull and the fuse pull for the NPP exhaust.

Feels like a different car... bless this site. I knew my dealer put low octane in it to begin with,.
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Old 08-05-2013, 12:21 PM   #2498
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Reading most of these posts. Ok maybe about 4 pages of posts. I see that this is best done if you let it sit about 3-10 hours?

Has anyone seen a difference with times less then 3 hours of resetting?
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Old 08-05-2013, 06:19 PM   #2499
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just did this fuse pull and the fuse pull for the NPP exhaust.

Feels like a different car... bless this site. I knew my dealer put low octane in it to begin with,.
I'm guessing the fuse pull for NPP is so it stays open all the time?
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Old 08-06-2013, 07:35 AM   #2500
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Did under the hood pull last night. Going to try under the hood and the trunk tonight just to be safe. Will post when all is finished.
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