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Old 08-25-2009, 05:11 PM   #1
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Tree Sap.... UGH!

So... I found out that I had tree sap on my car this afternoon, as I'm leaving work. I had taken my 3 detailing towels out of the car the night before to get washed, so I wasn't able to immediately removed it. Looks like it had been there for a few hours at least.

Well, when I got home, I used some bug/tar/goo remover to get the sap off... and now there's a nasty indentation in the paint. It's right in the middle of my hood and it's really noticeable from a certain angle. I can't tell if it's taken the clear off off of if it's just a mark from where the sap was. When I rub my finger across it, it doesn't feel like there's any sap there... so I dunno what the mark is.

Is there any way to make this mark go away? I'm not going to go out and purchase 80 dollars of Zaino items that I can't even use on a regular basis (I live in an Apt complex).
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Old 08-25-2009, 05:19 PM   #2
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You probably just took the wax off.
Just wash and wax and see how it looks.
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Old 08-25-2009, 08:32 PM   #3
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Post a pic. I put myself through several years of college by working at a detail shop and have cleaning countless cars of all sorts of contamination. My suggestion would be using a light polishing compound, just a small drop on a micro fiber towel and rub it onto the spot, then put some fresh wax over the spot. And for future reference, for sap that is really stuck on, rubbing alcohol works well with a credit card or other smooth soft plastic card (just don’t rub too hard, let it soften up before scrapping to avoid scratches). Also, a light polishing compound is the best thing for removing any scrapes/scratches/scuffs from shopping carts, car doors...
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Old 08-25-2009, 10:17 PM   #4
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I definitely recommend using rubbing alcohol to remove tree sap. I detailed my truck a few weeks ago so I could sell it and I had dried on tree sap in multiple places from years of parking under a pine tree. Took a washcloth and a $.99 bottle of 91% rubbing alcohol and just wiped the sap off - no scraping with plastic cards needed. A shot of quick detailer over the area made the spots disappear.
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Old 08-25-2009, 11:45 PM   #6
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When i get tree sap on my car i use MeGuiar's Ultimate Detailer

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Old 08-31-2009, 06:17 PM   #7
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The best thing to use by far is either vaseline or go-jo soap without pumice. I have used these for years and it works great. If it's still wet/gooey put either fix on liberaly rub in until you don't feel the sap anymore wipe off with a very soft cloth. If it's already hard and set up you may have to leave on over night and maybe reapply to get it all off but it will come off. Does not damage paint at all and leaves your paint shiny. Actually any thing that is petroleum based should work because it desolves the sap on contact.
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Old 08-31-2009, 06:35 PM   #8
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Old 09-01-2009, 10:03 AM   #9
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The best thing to use by far is either vaseline or go-jo soap without pumice. I have used these for years and it works great. If it's still wet/gooey put either fix on liberaly rub in until you don't feel the sap anymore wipe off with a very soft cloth. If it's already hard and set up you may have to leave on over night and maybe reapply to get it all off but it will come off. Does not damage paint at all and leaves your paint shiny. Actually any thing that is petroleum based should work because it desolves the sap on contact.
I've scrubbed it a few times... and I still have the mark. I cant feel any residue on the hood or anything. I tried to take a picture of it, but you can only see it from a certain angle... and when I try to take a picture I just get glare :(
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Old 09-01-2009, 12:34 PM   #10
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Maybe the damage is from the tar remover and it damaged the clear already. I think I would go to a body shop and get their opinion, maybe use a little light cleaner wax to see if it's just a "haze" left from the tar remover or if it did actually permeate the clear. But PROFESSIONAL" now would be the answer since nothing else seems to make it go away.
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Old 09-01-2009, 01:06 PM   #11
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Invest in dual action polisher and pads to use with quality paint care products of your choice and you will rid of minor stuff like this in no time. A minute with a DA polisher, white pad (orange pad if necessary), and swirl/scratch remove will buff that right off. Then you can polish/wax the entire car to a mirror shine!
Warning: once you start detailing your car this way, it becomes an obssession to keep it looking nice and shiny all the time.
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Old 09-01-2009, 02:40 PM   #12
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Maybe the damage is from the tar remover and it damaged the clear already. I think I would go to a body shop and get their opinion, maybe use a little light cleaner wax to see if it's just a "haze" left from the tar remover or if it did actually permeate the clear. But PROFESSIONAL" now would be the answer since nothing else seems to make it go away.
Can the tree sap take away the clear coat? I know the tar remover didn't... I use it quite often for the bugs on my front fascia.... and it works wonders. I didn't let the stuff sit at all... I sprayed it and then scrubbed it.
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Old 09-01-2009, 02:55 PM   #13
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I don't know for sure but I see on some other threads people are saying bird poop certain bugs or acid rain is leaving etched spots on the car so I guess maybe depends on what kind of tree it was from maybe some have more corosives than others.
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Old 09-01-2009, 02:56 PM   #14
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By the way mine was pine tree sap, they are everywhere here!
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You said you can't feel the spot when you run your finger across it but you can still see the problem spot from certain angles. Well, that pretty much tells you the clear coat is still even on the surface but certainly the sap stained the surface and you sealed it when you (probably) coated it with wax! It is the stain you are seeing. Trust me on this, I know what you are talking about! I can not over state enough...if you have a polishing machine, this problem is solved in no time. I recommend Dual Action polisher because they are the safest car polishers out there, you can't burn your paint using one, I tried! (well you might burn the paint if you apply all your weight on it with a dry pad. Doh!)
I live just a few miles from the beach and believe me, I get bird poop on my cars all the time but never a problem removing all traces of it. Tree sap? Even easier!

Do this, take it to a detail place and offer them a few bucks to for the 2 minutes it will take them to buff that little stain out. After that, you will want your own.
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Thanks Cobra, I'll try that out
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Pine sap is more acidic than most.
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