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Old 08-27-2009, 11:13 AM   #76
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I think that back up sensors should be an option. I love them on my diesel
F-250. They are especially helpful when backing up to trailers and the only use i get from them is to judge distance from my trailer hitch to my trailers

It's not that I have a huge cosmetic issue w/ the idea, ( I guess I'll reserve judgement until I can see some pics) I have a problem with paying the extra $300.00 on something I have already ordered and paid a deposit on.

It should be MY OPTION whether or not I want to pay an extra $300.00 for an ADDED safety feature.

I want to say that I applaud GM for listening to our requests but I personally feel that I am responsible enough to drive safely w/o CURB FEELERS and BACK UP SENSORS .

Hey GM, PLease Give Me the option of having a "Back Up Sensor delete" 2SS Camaro

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I'm with you I have no problem with GM adding these, my problem is the fact that they have decided to do this now and tell all of us that have already ordered cars that in addition to what we were already quoted for the car we now have to pay an additional 295.00 for something we have no choice to refuse. Its one thing to go in knowing what you’re getting and quite another when they decide to change things mid-stream and pass the price on to the consumer. Why don’t they let this be an option for every one that has one on order now and just say standard after such and such date.
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Old 08-27-2009, 11:23 AM   #77
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Hey someone had to say this..might as well be me. Instead of the backup sensors, I'd rather see the ambient lighting wrap-around the dash, man!

What he said goes double for me!
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Old 08-27-2009, 11:28 AM   #78
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g.m. can install the sensors in the lower black panel and you wont even know they are there unless you are looking for them...my truck has them and where the bumper is chrome, the sensors are chrome,..below the tag where the bumper is black the sensors are black,you really have to look for them in the black part to notice,and believe me, i have cleaned that truck enough to know,...definatly wont look as bad as the ones i have seen on some toyota's..no matter the color of the car, the sensors are black,stick out like a soar thumb,...g.m. will get it right
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I already have my car, I don't really care that I don't have the back-up sensors, it really isn't a problem for me. Now I would glady pay $295 for a height adjustable passenger seat so my short wife doesn't have to sit on a pillow to comfortably see out the windsheild.
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I have never bought a first year model of any vehicle until I bought this Camaro. I have had the best time with it and had zero problems. Now I'm really glad I bought it early because I'm personally not a fan of the sensors and their looks. I think society has become lazyand is relying on others to take care of them instead of paying attention to your surroundings. I don't need back up sensors I have eyes!!! I can look at the area I'm backing into. I have good judgement of distance, unfortunatly not everyone has the mental capacity to back up without hitting things. Hence everyone becomes subjected to "safety" items.
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Old 08-27-2009, 11:43 AM   #81
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For a lot of people, seeing those round holes on the back of a bumper is a sign of higher quality in a car. Even people who do not know what it is, will see it on bmws and mercedes, lexus etc, and then see it on a camaro. Again you know practically every option can be deleted in workbench. Unless its combined with the convenience package? I know on chevys site it says its standard on 2LT and 2SS and available on 1LT, but who knows right now. Someone needs to go do a mock order at a dealer and see if it can be deleted.
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Old 08-27-2009, 11:43 AM   #82
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any idea how it will be integrated to the inside?? I know my silverado had three lights in the rear piller...any idea on the Camaro?
If the owner's manual is any indication (there's actually a mention of the back-up system in there), there would be three lights on the rear deck (inside the car) that light up depending on how close you are to something. The closer you get to something the more lights will light up. I forget what page it's on. Also, for those of you who already have their car, if you'll notice on the rear deck there is a "hump" with a "tab" that looks like it could be pulled out. I bet this is where the lights would have been; so it looks like they knew they would do this at some point in the future. Also, it looks like due to this, maybe they were planning on it being retrofit-able.
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Old 08-27-2009, 11:45 AM   #83
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Back up sensors on your muscle cars, not good. I have them on our minivan and thats where they belong. Bet ya the Mustang and Challenger forums will have a field day with this option.
Mustang has a rear view camera...
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It will probably look something like this, which to me isn't that bad:


(you don't even notice them at first)
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Old 08-27-2009, 11:56 AM   #85
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I'm with you I have no problem with GM adding these, my problem is the fact that they have decided to do this now and tell all of us that have already ordered cars that in addition to what we were already quoted for the car we now have to pay an additional 295.00 for something we have no choice to refuse. Its one thing to go in knowing what you’re getting and quite another when they decide to change things mid-stream and pass the price on to the consumer. Why don’t they let this be an option for every one that has one on order now and just say standard after such and such date.
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Old 08-27-2009, 11:57 AM   #86
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Be nice if they could put them in the slits between the defuser and the body panel.
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Old 08-27-2009, 11:59 AM   #88
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Mustang has a rear view camera...
True but it is a $385 OPTION that requires you to have a decklid spoiler.
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Old 08-27-2009, 12:03 PM   #89
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True but it is a $385 OPTION that requires you to have a decklid spoiler.
And this is a $200 something dollar option... point being?
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Old 08-27-2009, 12:16 PM   #92
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And this is a $200 something dollar option... point being?
Point being, this is NOT a $200 something option here, it is a $295 increase in MSRP for a new standard feature on some models. At least on the Mustang, it is an option, even if it is more expensive than what is coming on the Camaro.
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Old 08-27-2009, 12:19 PM   #94
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Point being, this is NOT a $200 something option here, it is a $295 increase in MSRP for a new standard feature on some models. At least on the Mustang, it is an option, even if it is more expensive than what is coming on the Camaro.
Oh ok gotcha...


Your right this sucks, where's my torch and pitchfork!!!


Truth betold its not a bad thing to have on your car for most people... but they should have made it an option.


GM does some really odd things somethings... My personal favorite is the Nav screen in the G8 that isnt for Nav.
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Old 08-27-2009, 12:21 PM   #95
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Please see post #45 AND post #67.
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That's right, some people have said the view out of a Camaro is limited..But as of August 31st, Camaro's will be built with back up sensors. A new feature for those with cars on order!

Back up sensors will be included on the 2SS, 2LT and 1LT w/SRJ package.


Why did they focus on something useless when people are waiting for HUD and ABL?
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If the owner's manual is any indication (there's actually a mention of the back-up system in there), there would be three lights on the rear deck (inside the car) that light up depending on how close you are to something. The closer you get to something the more lights will light up. I forget what page it's on. Also, for those of you who already have their car, if you'll notice on the rear deck there is a "hump" with a "tab" that looks like it could be pulled out. I bet this is where the lights would have been; so it looks like they knew they would do this at some point in the future. Also, it looks like due to this, maybe they were planning on it being retrofit-able.
I believe the hump on the rear deck, with the tab, is the release to fold down the back seats.
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Well, I guess this means I can let my wife drive the car when I get it.

Funny story, she actually backed into our mailbox one day in her 01 camaro, (way to look behind you) then instead of asking me to fix it, she moved the car so that she could "re-adjust" the mailbox with the front bumper. I hope this backup sensor will detect mailboxes.
And after that story, you're actually thinking about letting your wife drive the car?? Reconsider! Reconsider!

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It's called parenting! If you have no idea where your 4 year old is... dont back up until you do! Somehow no one ever ran over me or any of my siblings (I'm one of 6) and we have never owned a car with backup sensors.

I have no issues with the convenience of having backup sensors if you want them. I DO, however, have an issue with them being provided for people as a crutch to help them not know how to drive. If you cannot park your car without a bunch of idiot-proof gizmos, you shouldnt be allowed to own it.
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I have never bought a first year model of any vehicle until I bought this Camaro. I have had the best time with it and had zero problems. Now I'm really glad I bought it early because I'm personally not a fan of the sensors and their looks. I think society has become lazyand is relying on others to take care of them instead of paying attention to your surroundings. I don't need back up sensors I have eyes!!! I can look at the area I'm backing into. I have good judgement of distance, unfortunatly not everyone has the mental capacity to back up without hitting things. Hence everyone becomes subjected to "safety" items.
This is getting really irritating...

For people like this... The "anti-technology" people... Along with the "gotta-be-a-manual" people... Trying to keep everything old school, and do-it-yourself... Why not get rid of power windows while you're at it? You have arms, you can crank them windows down manually! And power mirrors? Screw 'em! I'm sure you have a friend that wouldn't mind sitting in the passenger seat and adjust them for you. What about power steering? Don't you want to "feel" like you're actually steering the car? And no key fobs for you either. How about manually unlocking your door with your key from now on... That should make you feel more comfortable.

You see... technology is moving forward... little by little, car manufacturers are adding new features to help us... That does not mean people don't know how to do stuff. Do we not know how to roll up an old-school window? Or adjust a mirror? Of course we can, if necessary. But these new technologies are there to help. Do you think people bitched and complained about the first wheel being invented? "You're using what?! To make transporting stuff easier?! You fail at life! You have arms and legs, just walk and carry that stuff over your shoulder!"

Meanwhile, you are sitting on the internet... the most technologically advanced and "convenient" form of communication we currently have... Why don't you go back to hand-writing letters and sending them in the mail?

Or better yet, just go back into your cave while the rest of the world advances around you.

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Be nice if they could put them in the slits between the defuser and the body panel.
I was thinking the same thing. That is my biggest concern. I hope they don't add those ugly dots to the bumper. But if they are well hidden, and unnoticeable unless you are really looking, I would definitely get this added.
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