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Old 08-27-2009, 07:03 PM   #1
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extremely large amount of swirls

i have an extremely large amount of paint swirls in my rjt. I never use automatic carwashers, and i only use microfiber products to clean and dry my car. I dont understand how i can have this many swirls? any ideas? and i just bought meguiars paint swirl remover and will be putting it on next week. hope this helps. Anyone else notice really high amount of swirls with these paintjobs?
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Old 08-27-2009, 07:06 PM   #2
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The guys over at Zaino claim that while some microfiber companies have good products, some may be abrasive to your cars finish. According to the "the jury is still out on the microfiber towels"

You may have used a towel of low quality and it caused the swirls.

I recomment the Zaino polish treatment for the swirls and you will be happy! I've Zaino'ed mine already and LOVE IT!!
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Old 08-27-2009, 07:08 PM   #3
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Meguiar's will work just fine. Get rid of the microfiber towels you're using and switch to cotton.
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Old 08-28-2009, 10:05 AM   #4
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use cotton towel
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Old 08-28-2009, 10:32 AM   #5
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Microfiber from autozone or a nice high quality microfiber? There is a difference.

http://www.carcaredepot.com/magento/...wel-16x16.html

Take care of the swirls safely and easily with a dual action polisher and some swirl remover/glaze products. Then to keep it swirl free, use techniques like the 2 bucket method or a product like a foam gun along with high quality towels/sponges. Keep everything clean, wash your MF with something like tide free, and store the dry clean towels in ziplock bags.
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Old 08-28-2009, 01:37 PM   #6
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If you are using cheap WalMart of CostCo micro-fiber towels, there is your problem. Worse if you use them more than once between washing. Oh yes, micro-fiber can be washed, gentle wash, light soap, and do not mix them with other laundry!

I get my towels from Adams Polishes. A bit more expensive but each one is about 12" x 12" (bigger I think) and very very very soft and thick. Like new again after washing.
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Old 08-28-2009, 01:41 PM   #7
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Old 09-03-2009, 12:23 PM   #8
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I've used microfiber on my black 68 for the last 6 years and my 2010 since I got it June 1st and I get asked all the time why don't I have swirl marks. I agree, there are differences in MF towels, but all of mine come from AutoZone. I've been using the tall knap ones that almost feel like rabbit.

I've also switched away from Zaino back to a process of Zymol with a layer of Meguiar's Gold Class over it..........I'm not saying Zaino doesn't work, I'm just saying it didn't give me the desired results I expected. I'm getting more shine and slickness to my finish with much cheaper products.
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Old 09-03-2009, 12:32 PM   #9
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I stick to using microfiber only for interior cleaning.

Look into investing in good quality towels, such as the "blond towels" offered at www.zainobros.com.

Also, use quality wash mitts made of either sheepskin, or chenile.

Finally, in applying whatever wax/polish you're using, use only quality applicators, such as, again, the ones offered on www.zainobros.com.
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Old 09-03-2009, 12:46 PM   #10
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Moose,
How do you apply Zaino's product for swirl removal. Basically what motion do you use, up/down on sides, back/forth on trunk/hood top? Or do you use a circular motion on anything? Will probably do this tomorrow after I clay the car.
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Old 09-03-2009, 01:19 PM   #11
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How do you apply Zaino's product for swirl removal. Basically what motion do you use, up/down on sides, back/forth on trunk/hood top? Or do you use a circular motion on anything? Will probably do this tomorrow after I clay the car.
"Front to Back" on hood/roof/trunk area

"Top to Bottom" on doors/fenders



(The only time I deviate from this is in "attacking" deeper swirls/scratches/marks, in which case, I use a product with a mild abrasive, and apply it in the direction of the scratch, etc. )
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Old 09-03-2009, 01:56 PM   #12
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On 08-22-2009 you stated:

"my rjt shows bad swirls... and ive only hand washed it with a powerwasher, microfiber towels (wash and dry) and have waxed it... gonna buy swirl remover and power buff it"

Is your car under 3 months old? I think the powerwasher may have created the swirl marks on your car.

I had an interesting discussion with a guy experienced in painting car and he said that one should wait about 3 months to allow a new paint job to fully cure before apply wax of any kind.

In fact he suggested only using cold water and a sponge with no soap for that time period and definitely do not let the dealer wax your car before you get it.

He showed me swirl marks on his truck where he waxed it after 1 1/2 months on a new paint job.

I don't know how true any of this is but to be safe I'm going to wait the 3 months before waxing.
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Old 09-03-2009, 09:17 PM   #14
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What micro fibers are you referring to. Just bought some towels that compare to sham wow? Are they micro fiber or cotton?
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Old 09-03-2009, 09:22 PM   #15
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I had a few swirl marks on the drivers side of the hood. I just bought that meguires stuff and washed the car, and applied it and buffed it off. It works great! The swirl marks could barely be felt with the tip of your fingernail, but now they are completely gone. I recommend it.
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i got tons of swirl marks 2 an it pisses me off i tryed the meguirs stuff but didnt exactly do what i wanted it too do what else is out there
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i got tons of swirl marks 2 an it pisses me off i tryed the meguirs stuff but didnt exactly do what i wanted it too do what else is out there
The swirls should be minor enough that Meguires will remove/hide them.

If you need something more "aggressive", look for 3M's Finesse It or, they also make a product for removing swirls from dark colored cars. I've found 3M's products at Pep Boys and used both with success.
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