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Old 05-03-2008, 06:18 PM   #29
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Looks damn good with that silver bow tie!!
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Old 05-05-2008, 12:14 PM   #30
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Anyone who thinks a 500hp car will be $35k is nuts. Expect more than GT500 money. I'd be happy wih 400hp reasonably optioned under $35k.
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Old 05-05-2008, 01:14 PM   #31
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Anyone who thinks a 500hp car will be $35k is nuts. Expect more than GT500 money. I'd be happy wih 400hp reasonably optioned under $35k.
I won't be happy unless I can get a V8 for under $28,500. Anything higher is taking away from the appeal of the Camaro. The Camaro has always been an affordable, fast car. If GM takes affordable out of the equation, it isn't really a Camaro, regardless of how fast it is. Fortunately, we know that GM is going to consider price very carefully.
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Old 05-05-2008, 01:34 PM   #32
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Silver bow ties for me....I have always hated the gold colored ones...I can't stand them on my Silverado....okay, sure, I haven't done anything to change that either, so they must not bother me that much, but this will be my Camaro damnit. It will bother me.
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Old 05-05-2008, 02:06 PM   #33
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MAGAZINE SPECULATION. God I hate how people take magazines seriously when we know GM hasn't released any price info.

PLEASE STOP TAKING MAGAZINES', ESPECIALLY MOTORTRENDS ARTICLES FOR TRUTH! THEY SAID A FEW MONTHS AGO IT WAS GOING TO HAVE AN LS2!!


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calm down- nobody's taking anything seriously... sheesh -so sensitive- on the other hand, GM did say that the Camaro is going to be a premium priced vehicle.
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Old 05-05-2008, 04:49 PM   #34
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You guys gotta take this into consideration: By the time a magazine goes to press it's articles are already outdated thanks to the internet. The image there is a photoshopped version of a pic taken a couple of months ago. Do you notice that when they cover events that they all happened about two months before? That's because while the story and the information may be somewhat correct AT THE TIME, after it gets edited and published and gets to the newsstand it's already outdated. Magazine journalists and editors really know no more than we do, but they have to put SOMETHING on their pages to give the cavemen who don't have internet access something to read. Therfore they speculate given their current knowledge of the car market, and rumors that they have heard(just like all the rumors WE have heard). It really isn't anybody's fault. Just take the magazine articles with a grain of salt and come here or got to any one of the automotive blogs(jalopnik, autoblog, leftlanenews) to get the most current information on our beloved American icon. Too easy.
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Old 05-05-2008, 06:21 PM   #35
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I won't be happy unless I can get a V8 for under $28,500. Anything higher is taking away from the appeal of the Camaro. The Camaro has always been an affordable, fast car. If GM takes affordable out of the equation, it isn't really a Camaro, regardless of how fast it is. Fortunately, we know that GM is going to consider price very carefully.
Your thinking of a time where 300+ hp was only available in a V-8, well times have changed. You now will get the same level of performance and hp but out of a V-6. It not too much to ask for people to pay 32k for a 400+ hp V-8coupe, and 40k for a 550 hp monster. Look what folks got for 35k in the GTO and the camaro is better in all ways. I think its one hell of a bargain
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Old 05-05-2008, 06:25 PM   #36
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Your thinking of a time where 300+ hp was only available in a V-8, well times have changed. You now will get the same level of performance and hp but out of a V-6. It not too much to ask for people to pay 32k for a 400+ hp V-8coupe, and 40k for a 550 hp monster. Look what folks got for 35k in the GTO and the camaro is better in all ways. I think its one hell of a bargain
It is too much to ask of me as a consumer to take the second or third tier for the price of the next brand's top tier. I'm GM-loyal, so I will of course get the beefy V6 if I must, but how many others would rather get the V8 Mustang, even if it's impotent in comparison? I want my price tag to reflect dominance in performance with competition in price. I'm okay with a few extra dollars, but crossing the $30,000 mark is a very dangerous move for Chevrolet.

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Old 05-05-2008, 07:01 PM   #37
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It is too much to ask of me as a consumer to take the second or third tier for the price of the next brand's top tier. I'm GM-loyal, so I will of course get the beefy V6 if I must, but how many others would rather get the V8 Mustang, even if it's impotent in comparison. I want my price tag to reflect dominance in performance with competition in price. I'm okay with a few extra dollars, but crossing the $30,000 mark is a very dangerous move for Chevrolet.
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Old 05-05-2008, 07:39 PM   #38
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Your thinking of a time where 300+ hp was only available in a V-8, well times have changed. You now will get the same level of performance and hp but out of a V-6. It not too much to ask for people to pay 32k for a 400+ hp V-8coupe, and 40k for a 550 hp monster. Look what folks got for 35k in the GTO and the camaro is better in all ways. I think its one hell of a bargain
It is a good bargain, but it's not competitive. (However, you should note that even Bob Lutz admitted the GTO was overpriced.)

Anyways, this is not a price per horsepower deal, though. The L76 and the LS3, for instance, cost about the same to produce. And the LS3 costs less than the LS2 did. So that's not the issue. GM could have just popped the L76 in for the base V8 and called it a day: It would still whoop ALL the competition. But they're choosing to go a step further. That doesn't mean they can abandon pricing it within reach of the Mustang. It won't sell, no matter how much of a bargain it is.

Still, I won't disagree with you. The V6 is VERY impressive!
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Old 05-05-2008, 08:17 PM   #39
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Wait I just thought of something. If i'm correct i do remember a fully loaded sticker price of an SS model costing over 30k. And that car had around 325hp I think. The F-bodies will look and feel ancient compared to this 5th gen. so I guess we will be paying for a better and higher quality product.
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Old 05-05-2008, 08:32 PM   #40
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Wait I just thought of something. If i'm correct i do remember a fully loaded sticker price of an SS model costing over 30k. And that car had around 325hp I think. The F-bodies will look and feel ancient compared to this 5th gen. so I guess we will be paying for a better and higher quality product.
Yeah, you're right about the price...which is part of the reason that the F-body went on hiatus in the first place (not the whole reason...but part of the reason). So, even though the 5th Gen will be more advanced than the 4th Gens the price will still be on point with a similarly equipped Mustang. This point can't be stressed enough! The Camaro must be priced within a few hundred dollars of a similarly equipped Mustang or it will end all over again. As for the 4th Gens feeling/looking ancient in comparison...to each his own when considering the looks. Yes, the 5th gen looks amazing...but I think my 4th gen looks fantastic...and the 2002 Camaro SS (and ZL1) remain my dream car (SS being attainable...ZL1 being out of reach). As far as the feel...well, the 4th Gens were, and are, excellent...but of course the 5th will better! However, I disagree that the 4ths will feel ancient in comparison...
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Old 05-05-2008, 09:58 PM   #41
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Am I missing something? I saw the pictures with the website and didn't see the silver bow ties. Where are they?
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