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Old 08-30-2009, 03:15 PM   #1
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Nitrogen in tires

I was reading an article in the Sept 09 Family Handyman magazine and ran across an article about "Making your tires last". In the article it made reference to tires that have green caps on the valve stems indicate that the tire is filled with nitrogen. Based on the article they do not recommend that you fill the tire with compressed air because it will negate the advantages of the nitrogen. Does anyone know if this will also cause damage to the tires. My 2SS has green caps on the valve stems so I am making an assumption that the tires are filled with nitrogen. Going to dealer tomorrow to check on this and find out what do I do when I get a low tire warning. More to come. Any thoughts from experts out there?
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Old 08-30-2009, 03:27 PM   #2
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I have mine filled with 78% nitrogen. Very easy to find/refill.
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Old 08-30-2009, 03:49 PM   #3
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It will not damage the tires. Adding "air" just diminishes the value of having nitrogen in there.
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Old 08-30-2009, 03:52 PM   #4
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Waste of time. If you have it fine, but its not worth going out of your way to find.
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Old 08-30-2009, 04:00 PM   #5
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I have mine filled with 78% nitrogen. Very easy to find/refill.


You know...nitrogen doesn't leak out of the tires as quick as "air" does...so if you just keep refilling them, eventually, they'll be filled with 99.9% nitrogen, and won't deflate for a while...like mine.
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Old 08-30-2009, 04:23 PM   #6
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I have mine filled with 78% nitrogen. Very easy to find/refill.
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Old 08-30-2009, 05:00 PM   #7
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Yep green caps means nitrogen...
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Old 08-31-2009, 04:10 AM   #8
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I have mine filled with 78% nitrogen. Very easy to find/refill.
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another advantage of using nitrogen is that you wont get water in side your tires, if you happen to use so old compressor that never gets drained of have a drier
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Old 08-31-2009, 08:11 AM   #9
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The biggest advantage about Nitrogen in your tires is the fact that Nitrogen is not affected by temperature.
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Old 08-31-2009, 08:50 AM   #10
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So can you put Nitrogen in any tires or do you have to have special components in the tire and wheel?
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Old 08-31-2009, 12:45 PM   #11
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I have mine filled with 78% nitrogen. Very easy to find/refill.
Huh? 78% Funny...Most wont get it.

Nitrogen fill at less than 95% is a waste..

Nitrogen molecules hold no moisture, less prone to temp changes and molecule is larger leading to less tire pressure fluctuation.

Beneficial? Never tried it..I prefer my 78% blend..much easier to access than time wasted waiting for a refill.
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Old 08-31-2009, 04:41 PM   #12
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The biggest advantage about Nitrogen in your tires is the fact that Nitrogen is not affected by temperature.
Nitrogen is a liquid below −195.9 °C
Nitrogen freezes solid below −209.9 °C
Liquid nitrogen boils at −195.8 °C

I'd say those cover "affected by temperature"
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Old 08-31-2009, 04:53 PM   #13
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he is talking about temperatures that occur in nature, in which the car would be operating.
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To the two posts above...If you look at the temperature differential, it is true that temperature differential does not affect nitrogen. Just depends on how statement is worded and application.

I am not a chemestry major, but the difference between the three elemental states (liquid/gas/solid) is key here.
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Old 08-31-2009, 05:31 PM   #15
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Nitrogen also is supposed to help keep your TPMS in good working order.
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Old 09-01-2009, 07:58 AM   #16
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The biggest advantage about Nitrogen in your tires is the fact that Nitrogen is not affected by temperature.
not as easily affected, but still affected

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So can you put Nitrogen in any tires or do you have to have special components in the tire and wheel?
your tires already have nitrogen in them...lol

but to go to a higher mixture of nitrogen... instead of the ~78% that is already found in the air you breathe and the air inside your tires now, you just need to deflate your tires and reinflate with nitrogen

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Huh? 78% Funny...Most wont get it.

Nitrogen fill at less than 95% is a waste..

Nitrogen molecules hold no moisture, less prone to temp changes and molecule is larger leading to less tire pressure fluctuation.

Beneficial? Never tried it..I prefer my 78% blend..much easier to access than time wasted waiting for a refill.
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Old 09-01-2009, 08:12 AM   #17
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Banshee,

"I am not a chemestry major," .... too funny it's chemistry
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I have a 2LT, and from what I can tell it does not come with the Nitrogen in the tires. Is that correct? I recently noticed that my tires seem to be losing pressure. I just had the oil changed a week ago and the tire pressure was checked then and were all fine. Today the pressure measured cold as follows:

35 30
34 30

warmed up and reset they measured

35 32
34 32

I'm thinking about having the compressed air drained and getting Nitrogen put in them. Are there any drawbacks to having that done?? Sorry in advance for the noob question.
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Old 09-01-2009, 11:19 AM   #19
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I have a 2LT, and from what I can tell it does not come with the Nitrogen in the tires. Is that correct? I recently noticed that my tires seem to be losing pressure. I just had the oil changed a week ago and the tire pressure was checked then and were all fine. Today the pressure measured cold as follows:

35 30
34 30

warmed up and reset they measured

35 32
34 32

I'm thinking about having the compressed air drained and getting Nitrogen put in them. Are there any drawbacks to having that done?? Sorry in advance for the noob question.
They should be 36 cold at the least for the 20's.. How much lower is it for the 19's if you have those.. Your tire pressure could be too low if you got the RS package. BTW, don't go by the built in tire pressure monitor, it is not accurate.. Use a personal digital one that you can buy for $10 or a little more for a better one.. After refilling mine to 36psi using a digital measure, the car read them all at 37 after a reset which was good. However turn the car off, turn it back on and it was all over the place 33, 32, 38, 39 the same day.. I did a digital reading and it was still 36 cold an hour later..
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Old 09-01-2009, 11:23 AM   #20
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Sorry, yes I have th RS package so the 20 in wheels and the tire pressure should be 36 in all four. This is a little troublesome for me since the pressure was fine a week ago when I had the oil changed at 1300 miles :(. Since I'm getting them looked at anyway I thought I'd switch to Nitrogen after reading up on it. Are there any drawbacks to that?

I just saw your edit. The original reading was taken this morning with a new tire pressure gauge and not the monitor in the car. I did look at the monitor in the car, then reset it, and it was pretty accurate with the gauge.
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Old 09-01-2009, 11:46 AM   #21
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There are no drawbacks to going full nitrogen except the hassle of getting nitro when you do need it. Using nitro will help eliminate the loss of pressure from dramatic temp changes. I always just use air because it is already 78% nitro and I always check my tires on all autos once a week anyway. I have my own compressor so it is really easy to take care of.
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Old 09-01-2009, 01:16 PM   #24
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I have mine filled with 78% nitrogen. Very easy to find/refill.
Our atmosphere is 78% -82% nitrogen
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I just rememberred my dad used to fill my pool floats AND car tires with FREON! Flat in the morning inflated in the afternoon! That was in the 70's you know. Can you imagine him getting away with now days?
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