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Old 05-01-2008, 09:43 PM   #1
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Pathetic: Car and Driver's "24 Cars to wait for"

i got my second issue of car and driver today, they have the new 2010 mustang on it at the front page, and so in bright orange letter it says "24 cars worth waiting for" i pretty much knew what to expect but was shocked when i didnt see it, they have the g8 gxp, they even have challenger covertible's and the new mustang there...so where's the camaro? i would have bet my life on the line it'd be there. i dont know who to e-mail there let them see the huge error they've just made by not including the camaro... is it bad it kinda depressed me alittle? =/
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Old 05-01-2008, 10:49 PM   #2
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it wasn't in there, i was told it was...wtf!
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Old 05-01-2008, 11:03 PM   #3
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Ford marketing they get the cover, they have a little sway in the editor's list... =P
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I was reading that during class, and actually let out a loud "WTF!" I did't care - I was pissed!
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Old 05-01-2008, 11:08 PM   #5
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I was reading that during class, and actually let out a loud "WTF!" I did't care - I was pissed!


I would have done the same thing...
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Old 05-02-2008, 12:43 AM   #6
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Which is why I have never subscribed to them and never will.

Definetely write the editor and tell him what a crock of shit that was....DO IT! And post up his response when he sends it back. Ask what he is going to do in the next issue to rectify the situation and keep a subscriber. Seriously.....that's some BS!
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Old 05-02-2008, 10:41 AM   #7
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Let Car and Driver know.

In my opinion this should at least be a sticky.

I admit C&D won't care. But, they should know that we are in complete disagreement.

So for no other reason than to full up the email box; I say we let them know. They get to put that crap in print. We get to disagree through email. Seems fair.

Here's the editor(s) email to Car and Driver Magazine. (not the website editor)

editors@caranddriver.com

I recommend we all use the same subject line:

Camaro5 Members Disgust with June 08 issue of C&D - "24 Cars Worth Waiting For"

I say let them have it. In the true Camaro5 manner. A respectful well thought out argument based on real data and true passion that basically says WTF!!!

I'm writing mine right now. They can expect a whole bunch of
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Old 05-02-2008, 11:17 AM   #8
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In my opinion this should at least be a sticky.

I admit C&D won't care. But, they should know that we are in complete disagreement.

So for no other reason than to full up the email box; I say we let them know. They get to put that crap in print. We get to disagree through email. Seems fair.

Here's the editor(s) email to Car and Driver Magazine. (not the website editor)

editors@caranddriver.com

I recommend we all use the same subject line:

Camaro5 Members Disgust with June 08 issue of C&D - "24 Cars Worth Waiting For"

I say let them have it. In the true Camaro5 manner. A respectful well thought out argument based on real data and true passion that basically says WTF!!!

I'm writing mine right now. They can expect a whole bunch of
we should include all camaro forums, i'm sure they are just as pissed....
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Old 05-02-2008, 11:23 AM   #9
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we should include all camaro forums, i'm sure they are just as pissed....
Great Idea. Absolutely.
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Old 05-02-2008, 02:43 PM   #10
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In my opinion this should at least be a sticky.

I admit C&D won't care. But, they should know that we are in complete disagreement.

So for no other reason than to full up the email box; I say we let them know. They get to put that crap in print. We get to disagree through email. Seems fair.

Here's the editor(s) email to Car and Driver Magazine. (not the website editor)

editors@caranddriver.com

I recommend we all use the same subject line:

Camaro5 Members Disgust with June 08 issue of C&D - "24 Cars Worth Waiting For"

I say let them have it. In the true Camaro5 manner. A respectful well thought out argument based on real data and true passion that basically says WTF!!!

I'm writing mine right now. They can expect a whole bunch of
I'm writing mine now!
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Old 05-02-2008, 03:09 PM   #11
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:fighting0040: Complaint Sent!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i have officially banned car and driver from my house, until they make up for it!!!
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Old 05-02-2008, 03:12 PM   #12
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If you do send an email to these people, and you use the site name...please hold up it's good reputation as a respectful forum.

Don't go off on a rant, and call names, etc...That would look bad on the site, and it really is uncalled for.

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Old 05-02-2008, 04:26 PM   #13
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If you do send an email to these people, and you use the site name...please hold up it's good reputation as a respectful forum.

Don't go off on a rant, and call names, etc...That would look bad on the site, and it really is uncalled for.

Sorry,

I should have checked with the Mods before I made the suggestion. But, I'm confident that the members here will stay on point and not just flame away.

I understand you don't want the site to look bad.
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Old 05-02-2008, 09:18 PM   #14
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holy crap! yea i mean i like the magazine and all but i think they made a huge mistake, i got the magazine subscription free and they had other crappy mags so i went with car and driver i fuigured..i like cars...and i'm a driver..Perfect! but i'm dissaopinted massively, i'm e-mailing them after i finish this post..which would be ..now!
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Old 05-03-2008, 10:53 AM   #15
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:fighting0040: Complaint Sent!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i have officially banned car and driver from my house, until they make up for it!!!
same here!
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Old 05-03-2008, 02:49 PM   #16
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I am compelled to offer up my quick two cents regarding your omission of the 2010 Chevrolet Camaro from the "24 cars worth waiting for" list in your latest issue. There are more than a few Camaro fansites scattered across the internet, and a brief search can yield that every one of them is gaining momentum in the way of membership and traffic, due to the closing release date of the "Bumblebee" superstar. From the lifelong enthusiast to the casual shopper, the Camaro has a respectable fanbase considering it's not even in the production stage of it's development yet! They are all anxiously awaiting the Camaro's return to the streets to put the monopolizing Mustang in it's place again, and remind Dodge that they can make a pretty car, but as usual they still can't make the whole package work, and make it affordable. There's not much else to say about my disappointment, along with several others on the forum I most frequent (http://www.camaro5.com), and sincerely hope your staff takes a look at who made this list and ask why this American Icon was left out.

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Old 05-05-2008, 07:58 AM   #17
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Car and Driver - 24 Cars to wait for!!

Just got my new issue of C&D and couldn't wait to open it to see the camaro as part of this list and what did I see..... The 2010 Mustang and the Challenger Vert. Where is the camaro?
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Old 05-05-2008, 08:21 AM   #18
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Yeah I got mine too. What the deuce??? At least put the Camaro Vert in there since it's further out and closer to 2010.
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Old 05-05-2008, 08:29 AM   #19
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merged...and title changed just a wee bit.
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I havent gotten this issue yet!! I dont think i want it now
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Old 05-05-2008, 09:28 AM   #22
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I say let them have it. In the true Camaro5 manner. A respectful well thought out argument based on real data and true passion that basically says WTF!!!

Done.
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Old 05-05-2008, 09:35 AM   #23
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im no longer a fan of CnD. but road and track is the worst. im writing my letter of complaint right now including my thanks for 'turning me onto motortrend'
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they did us a favor

I don't think I want any magazines hyping up the Camaro. That's just MORE people waiting in line for one, including people who at this moment, aren't even thinking about one.

People on this site have been waiting an extremely long time for their Camaro.

Let the REAL Camaro enthuiasts have a chance to buy one.

The magazine is helping by not talking about it.

I personally don't want to have to pay even MORE because the hype is so out of control.

Peace

EDIT: I think a lot of people underestimate how popular this car actually is. The situation might possibly be more insane than when the first mustangs were made in 1964. I expect this exact scenario to happen. It probably was a blessing to remove Camaro and bring it back again.
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I don't think I want any magazines hyping up the Camaro. That's just MORE people waiting in line for one, including people who at this moment, aren't even thinking about one.

People on this site have been waiting an extremely long time for their Camaro.

Let the REAL Camaro enthuiasts have a chance to buy one.

The magazine is helping by not talking about it.

I personally don't want to have to pay even MORE because the hype is so out of control.

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