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Old 09-01-2009, 11:23 AM   #1
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CR names Mustang as best of the new musclecars

Consumer Reports names Mustang as the best of the new muscle/pony cars.

http://www.examiner.com/x-2270-NY-Au...ew-muscle-cars

I want to know where I can pick up one of those six-speed Mustang GT Premiums for a daily driver.

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Old 09-01-2009, 11:38 AM   #2
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That's certainly a nice award...
But Consumer Reports just doesn't hold much water in my bucket
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Old 09-01-2009, 11:44 AM   #4
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And the Mustang roles on !
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Thats ok, I name Consumer Reports as the best kindling.
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Very nice I got to read this
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Old 09-01-2009, 12:24 PM   #7
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Kinda like saying Fox News or CNBC are "real" news channels...



In all seriousness. Congrats to Mustang...


On another note.... Why would my "almost" favorite mustang member post this article here.... hmmm Now what could his motive be...

Does anyone smell something???
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Funny how it's named the best yet doesn't sell like it...

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Funny how it's named the best yet doesn't sell like it...

X2, I was at the Ford dealer here in Austin yeasterday and there are 9 new GT on the lot. My wife is thinking about getting one she said "they look so cute" plus you can get some good deals on them.
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Old 09-01-2009, 01:03 PM   #10
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Kinda like saying Fox News or CNBC are "real" news channels...

You "left" off CNN. (Pun intended.)

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On another note.... Why would my "almost" favorite mustang member post this article here.... hmmm Now what could his motive be...

Does anyone smell something???
I wasn't sure where else it would be appropriate? But yes, I did post it to stir the pot a little.
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Old 09-01-2009, 01:09 PM   #11
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Funny how it's named the best yet doesn't sell like it...

YEAA!!! Touché!!! The people are naming the best of the muscle cars...........and they put their money where their mouth is.........unlike these stuffed shirts at consumer reports!

Motor Trend and Consumer Reports are both on my DUMB ASS list!
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Just goes to show how many people out there that are willing to settle for less and call it the best.
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Oh, and in Wichita there are over 100 2010 Mustangs on the lots available for sale; zero Camaro's...
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Funny how it's named the best yet doesn't sell like it...

Since you mentioned it, let's go back in time to when the S197 Mustang (new Mustang-retro design) was first introduced.

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FORD TO INCREASE MUSTANG PRODUCTION TO MEET RUNAWAY CONSUMER DEMAND


* Ford will increase Mustang production to 192,000 in 2005 – 80,000
more than in 2004

* 2005 Mustang is the hottest-selling car in the industry

* Nearly one out of every two sports cars sold in U.S. is a Mustang

DEARBORN, Mich., March 17, 2005 – What’s an auto company to do when
demand for a hot model exceeds supply? Give the customers what they
want.

Ford today announced that it will take production of the hot new
Mustang to more than 192,000 units in 2005 – an increase of more than
70 percent, or 80,000 units, from the previous year.

"Ford Mustang is the hottest car in the industry, and its performance
on the street and in the showrooms is beating everyone’s
expectations," says Steve Lyons, Ford Division president. "Sales are
up more than 45 percent over last year, and V-8 GT and convertible
model demand is so strong that we haven’t been able to build enough.

We’re planning to increase production well beyond what was initially
planned. This will allow us to sell 160,000 – 165,000 Mustangs in the
U.S. this year."

Sales and Share Gains

Since its launch in the fall of 2004, the new model Mustang has been
an instant sensation with new car buyers. Sales of the 2005 model,
coupled with the sell-down of the prior model, have sent overall
Mustang sales to record levels every month since launch.

The higher-end Mustang GT V-8 models are in short supply, and the
much anticipated new convertible model is just beginning to arrive at
dealerships in time for spring. Traditionally, May and June are the
hottest selling months for convertible models.

In the key U.S. market, overall Mustang sales are up more than 45
percent on a retail basis over last year, a feat accomplished without
the support of the convertible model, which traditionally accounts
for one-third of overall Mustang volume. Based on the current sales
trajectory, Ford expects to sell about 160,000 – 165,000 Mustangs in
the U.S. for the 2005 calendar year. In Canada, where Mustang was
named 2005 Canadian Car of the Year, sales continue their triple-
digit month-after-month rise, topping records set more than a decade
ago.

Increasing sales gains have also been accompanied by share gains.
Since the 2005 launch, Mustang has garnered 44 percent of the small
specialty segment, featuring sports coupes such as the Pontiac GTO,
Nissan 350Z, Chrysler Sebring and Hyundai Tiburon among others.
See, it is typical for sales when you bring a new design to market. Unlike the Camaro, Ford had these sales numbers despite having no seven year hiatus from production in which its fanbase could not get into one.

I, for one, hope they produce and sell a million Camaro's, that way I can take one off the hands of someone, who got caught up in the "gotta have it" fever and ended up over their heads financially, for a "must go" price.

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Since you mentioned it, let's go back in time to when the S197 Mustang (new Mustang-retro design) was first introduced.


See this is typical for sales when you bring a new design to market. Unlike the Camaro, Ford had these sales numbers despite having no seven year hiatus from production in which its fanbase could not get into one.

I, for one, hope they produce and sell a million Camaro's, that way I can take one off the hands of someone, who got caught up in the "gotta have it" fever and ended up over their heads financially, for a "must go" price.
Excess supply always devalues the product for certain.

I confess though that I desperately wanted to by a 2010 Mustang over the Camaro. The looks are improved, techie toys are abundant, and they are easy to find. That was until I test drove the new GT and found it to very unpleasant. I went directly from the Ford Dealer to the Chevy dealer and bought my SIM! I have zero regrets.

It is a shame that CR weights the 2 mpg diff., location of gauges and switches, and blind spots so heavily. If not for those differences the Camaro would be the CR best Muscle Car.

However, there are a lot of CR loyalists, so perhaps this ranking will help those in "the know" to drive the best kept secret for a while longer before the masses catch on.
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Kinda like saying Fox News or CNBC are "real" news channels...



In all seriousness. Congrats to Mustang...


On another note.... Why would my "almost" favorite mustang member post this article here.... hmmm Now what could his motive be...

Does anyone smell something???
maybe he got haxd and some one posted for him :o
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* Ford will increase Mustang production to 192,000 in 2005 – 80,000
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* 2005 Mustang is the hottest-selling car in the industry
Not hard to do w no competition wonder what the camaro would sell if there was no mustang
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Mustang is a great car not so much for the review team Not hard to do w no competition wonder what the camaro would sell if there was no mustang
Ohhh snap. QFT.
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I hear a whooooshing sound coming. The Camaro is selling well because its NEW and its BACK. The true test of sales will be if it will still have high sales 5 years from now like the Mustang does.

I would truly hope it sales well now. If it did not, then it would be deemed a failure and Camaro would yet depart from the Muscle car scene. Competition is good. So perhaps GM will take these reports and do something to get a "W" in the column for next year...

Oh wait.....the 5.0 will be out next year. Oh well there is always 2012... ?
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You "left" off CNN. (Pun intended.)

I wasn't sure where else it would be appropriate? But yes, I did post it to stir the pot a little.
I don't know... CNBC is pretty left...


Wait... Bad mod Bad! No political posts...

Can I even warn myself???
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I hear a whooooshing sound coming. The Camaro is selling well because its NEW and its BACK. The true test of sales will be if it will still have high sales 5 years from now like the Mustang does.

I would truly hope it sales well now. If it did not, then it would be deemed a failure and Camaro would yet depart from the Muscle car scene. Competition is good. So perhaps GM will take these reports and do something to get a "W" in the column for next year...

Oh wait.....the 5.0 will be out next year. Oh well there is always 2012... ?
Now how is it that you don't have a single infraction..... Maybe we can fix that.....
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Now how is it that you don't have a single infraction..... Maybe we can fix that.....
Now now...no need to be hasty just poking da bear.
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I could care less about sales in all honesty. I have my 2SS and by Mustang winning something else it makes me feel even better when I am blowing past one since no stock GT has even come close, not even the 2010 GT. And I have my other toy to blow the doors off every GT500 I've come in contact with so GM wins everytime for this household.
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Now now...no need to be hasty just poking da bear.
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