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Old 09-01-2009, 05:25 PM   #43
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wow thats hugh that this year there 2010s then 2002. now it needs to seel 75k-100k for 2 years and i am sure gm will keep the maro for a long long time.
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Old 09-01-2009, 05:26 PM   #44
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GM will keep the what?
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Old 09-01-2009, 05:27 PM   #45
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Challenger less than 2k cars a month...i don't see much future for that car, and i'm not suprised.
I think the Challenger fills a void that neither the Camaro nor the Mustang do. The only reason I can think of for it's low sales is price.

But low sales are low sales. I'll be sad if it does go away.
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Old 09-01-2009, 05:28 PM   #46
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Those Mustang numbers seem real low. Any ideas if that's the Camaro, or people waiting for the "upgraded" 2011 Mustang?
im guessing waiting for both 5.0 V8 and ecoboost V6

good overall numbers from ford

http://media.ford.com/images/10031/August09sales.pdf

gm not so much (lucky they have camaro)

http://phx.corporate-ir.net/External...xUeXBlPTM=&t=1

edit: wow did the corvette ever that a hit...vette buyer going to camaro?
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Old 09-01-2009, 05:34 PM   #47
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Those Mustang numbers seem real low. Any ideas if that's the Camaro, or people waiting for the "upgraded" 2011 Mustang?
Bingo. The 5.0 have been confirmed. So many are now waiting for the 5.0 to hit, instead of buying the 2010 4.6. It was a well known fact that the 2010 would not have big production numbers....but it is still selling decently with just a few upgrades to the shell,int, and handling.

Also the v6 is being upgraded as well in the power dept.
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Old 09-01-2009, 05:35 PM   #48
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I am in disbelief that i've just seen two people hoping the plug is pulled on the Camaro, because their cars will devalue otherwise. Is this the Twilight Zone?!

Challenger less than 2k cars a month...i don't see much future for that car, and i'm not suprised.
So you would be ok with seeing it every 5 cars that passes you ? I'm not saying pull the plug tomorrow, but do you honestly want this car to end up like the Dodge Charger ??? Think back a few years when Dodge re-released it, everybody wanted one and look at it now everybody has one. I'm thinking long term about my investment...that's all.
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Old 09-01-2009, 05:37 PM   #49
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Not to sound selfish but I hope GM pulls the plug on this car pretty soon. For everyone and their mother to have a 2010 camaro is just not good for so many reasons. The most imporant in my opinion being VALUE, I was under the impression this car was going to be a limited edition with only so many produced. That is one of the reasons I chose to buy it, the more that are produced the less the value will be in the future (I plan on keeping it). Where I live I am one of few 2010 camaro owners, I see another one every now and then and honestly I like it this way and hope it stays this way. I don't know about everyone else but it feels nice to own and be apart of something that people don't see everyday. I can't go anywhere without people stopping to talk to me about it or take pictures or staring at me so hard while driving they almost run off the road.If these things are happening to me I know they are happening to everyone else out there who owns one. The minute you start seeing this car everywhere means it is sloowwwly loosing it's luster.:( This is just my opinion and I do not expect everyone to agree with it !
Unfortunately for you and fortunately for the economy, GM doesn't share the same opinion. It's selfish to have your mind set. There are cars made and priced to keep volume down, maybe you should have bought one of those?

Price has a mechanism of exclusion, and GM priced this car to exclude as few people as possible... it's a bargain for what you get. If you want something more "special" you would have to pay a significant amount more.

You're still free to do so, go trade your camaro in for a Challenger, it looks like they'll be pretty rare... forever.
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Old 09-01-2009, 05:38 PM   #50
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So you would be ok with seeing it every 5 cars that passes you ? I'm not saying pull the plug tomorrow, but do you honestly want this car to end up like the Dodge Charger ??? Think back a few years when Dodge re-released it, everybody wanted one and look at it now everybody has one. I'm thinking long term about my investment...that's all.

a car is the worst investment you can make nowadays, you drive off the lot your car is instantly 3,000 less in value... a car is something to enjoy in this century not collect. you guys who sit here and praise how much you love the camaro and GM but yet you want the thing discontinued? i for one want the camaro to stick around. you guys just don't make any sense with your "i hope we dont see a camaro on every block" you NEED to see a camaro on every block for it to survive, i just dont get the logic
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Old 09-01-2009, 05:41 PM   #51
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So you would be ok with seeing it every 5 cars that passes you ? I'm not saying pull the plug tomorrow, but do you honestly want this car to end up like the Dodge Charger ??? Think back a few years when Dodge re-released it, everybody wanted one and look at it now everybody has one. I'm thinking long term about my investment...that's all.
Hate to say it, but the 2010 camaro is not a long term investment. Now lets say they made a z28 that looked like a 69RS....in limited numbers..like a 1000. That would be a investment.

Perfect example is the 08KR. Sure it was overpriced, and the 2010GT500 is basically a KR refined, but they only made a 1000 KR's maybe less...so that car will be worth keeping as there will not be a lot of them.

The rebirth of the Camaro was to bring it back. GM wants to sell a lot of them to be successful, and get a piece of the pie Ford has been eating from for so long. The V6 I believe will be everywhere soon. Good performance, same style and looks as the V8 without the costs.
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Old 09-01-2009, 05:54 PM   #52
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Not to sound selfish but I hope GM pulls the plug on this car pretty soon. For everyone and their mother to have a 2010 camaro is just not good for so many reasons. The most imporant in my opinion being VALUE, I was under the impression this car was going to be a limited edition with only so many produced. That is one of the reasons I chose to buy it, the more that are produced the less the value will be in the future (I plan on keeping it). Where I live I am one of few 2010 camaro owners, I see another one every now and then and honestly I like it this way and hope it stays this way. I don't know about everyone else but it feels nice to own and be apart of something that people don't see everyday. I can't go anywhere without people stopping to talk to me about it or take pictures or staring at me so hard while driving they almost run off the road.If these things are happening to me I know they are happening to everyone else out there who owns one. The minute you start seeing this car everywhere means it is sloowwwly loosing it's luster.:( This is just my opinion and I do not expect everyone to agree with it !
If you wanted a rare car, you should've bought a Ferrari or Lamborghini.

You knew this would be a volume car when you bought it. GM said they wanted to sell 100k units a year. They're on track to sell very close to that figure.

Furthermore, GM needs to sell a TON of these cars to get the money back on their investment.

GM is not going to pull the plug on this car.

And quite frankly, your opinion is pretty selfish.
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Old 09-01-2009, 05:55 PM   #53
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I'm thinking long term about my investment...that's all.
Im thinking long term about GM, Camaro and the thousands of jobs that go along with them.... Yes I want a Camaro on every corner.
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Old 09-01-2009, 06:03 PM   #54
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I was going to comment about the disgusting "I got my Camaro, screw everyone else and stop making them so I can feel special" comments but it would seem as though it has been addressed enough already.

Instead I'll just say this. In order for GM to survive and ever make a car as gorgeous as this one they NEED to keep this car flying off the lots. The Camaro will not save GM in terms of sales numbers, but what it will do is serve as a giant bright spot on an otherwise tarnished image. Seeing that the company can make such a great car will increase confidence among consumers and drive up the sales of Malibus, Impalas, Traverses and all the other cars whose sales WILL save GM. GM needs Camaros rolling out of the factory and down the street for as long as possible, and in turn so do we.

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Compared to 2002 sales....

This is what I found with a quick search for 2002 model year courtesy of http://www.camaro-registry.com/production.htm



Looks like we have that beat!
I think that when the guy said "2002 Camaros" he was referring to the discrepancy between the number of Camaros produced (10,682) and the number delivered (8,682) which comes out to 2,002 vehicles. Not the sales of the 2002 model year Camaro . It had me kinda confused at first too, but it all makes sense when you add in the missing comma.
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If you wanted a rare car, you should've bought a Ferrari or Lamborghini.

You knew this would be a volume car when you bought it. GM said they wanted to sell 100k units a year. They're on track to sell very close to that figure.

Furthermore, GM needs to sell a TON of these cars to get the money back on their investment.

GM is not going to pull the plug on this car.

And quite frankly, your opinion is pretty selfish.


And that's why it is my opinion
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